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Post by Jon on Oct 17, 2008 16:25:12 GMT
Sean made It clear that his company Is sound and has no money problems, trust me Sean thought the statement on.com, made It look other wise and he asked that It should be taken down or reworded. For what it’s worth, I certainly did not read the club’s statement as implying that the sponsor was in financial difficulties. The choice of the words “no longer willing to maintain sponsorship” rather than “no longer able to to maintain sponsorship” clearly suggested quite the opposite – he had the money to keep paying but had decided not to. Obviously the last part of the statement appears a little barbed and far from conciliatory. That would seem to imply that the club either did not believe what Sean was telling them or thought that he was making a mountain out of a molehill. I could fully understand if the club were sympathetic to what Sean was saying but felt that they could not or would not take things to the conclusion he might prefer. That could be because they felt that they did not have sufficient legal grounds to do what he wanted, or could be that they decided to sacrifice their principles in what they felt to be the best interests of the football club. But in either of those scenarios, I would have expected the club statement to carry a more conciliatory or sympathetic tone. It would be a shame if a poorly-worded or ill-considered statement damaged the possibility of all differences being resolved amicably and of the partnership that was working to the benefit of TUFC being resumed. My initial comment on this thread was based on my confidence that the club had too much expertise and professionalism to let that happen. Maybe I was right and maybe I was wrong. |
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Post by Rob on Oct 17, 2008 16:28:19 GMT
Why has Sean been gagged by his lawyer? Possibly because he would be ill-advised to complain publicly of wrongdoing by an individual unless he had incontrovertible evidence as he would lay himself open to legal action for libel or slander. Have struck through the bit people might take the wrong way, for your approval, Jon.  Pretty much agree that nothing negative in respect of the "advised" should be read in to advice not to discuss a matter. If a joint statement could be agreed, that would be fine, but I really doubt the Club would wish to go down that line and make public that which they have thusfar sought not to elaborate upon without a change in personnel. |
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Post by Jon on Oct 17, 2008 16:40:57 GMT
Have struck through the bit people might take the wrong way, for your approval, Jon. What are you, a lawyer or something?   You are right in that he would probably be ill-advised to complain publicly either way, but the advice to say nothing would surely be far more strongly expressed if there were any doubts as to whether he could back up his comments with evidence that what he was saying was beyond dispute. |
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Post by Dave on Oct 17, 2008 17:33:00 GMT
Jon, your second post sums up what I believe the situation to be very well. Your first post Is also very correct In that, before you can go around saying someone did this Or that, you need to be able to back It up and prove It.
I know Sean would have no problem proving what I call part One, It Is part two, the one that causes the most concern, that unless there was someone else there at the time, It would just be one word against another.
I'm sure all parties have had time to calm down somewhat and may be In a position to talk and If that Is the case, I would hope a good solution can be found. I really do not believe the club with ever give out a statement and If they did It would only be about part one. Mind you for that to happen, someone would have to agree as that someone may not want even part one to come out.
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Post by Rob on Oct 21, 2008 21:07:43 GMT
Keeping it quiet has clearly done the trick, then.
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 21:10:04 GMT
Keeping it quiet has clearly done the trick, then. Why? has something happened |
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Post by Rob on Oct 21, 2008 21:16:36 GMT
Nothing
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 21:30:07 GMT
Well If I was to guess what has happened since this thread was started It would be this.Part one, the one that was the start Of everything has been put right by the person concerned, Or with the help Of others.
As part two only happened between two people and no one else, It came down to one word against the other, so then It Is a case Of who at the club believes what. I really think the efforts made to keep this quite has worked, but people do know and word will get around In the end, but just like Chinese whispers, what will the story end up as.
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Post by Rob on Oct 21, 2008 21:39:00 GMT
"Colin Lee Ate My Hamster" ? |
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Post by Jon on Oct 21, 2008 22:35:03 GMT
"Colin Lee Ate My Hamster" ? I would strongly advise you against making public allegations of this nature unless you possess irrefutable evidence of the consumption of the aforementioned rodent. But then again, I'm no lawyer. |
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 22:38:17 GMT
Glad I read all your post Jon, I got started on It and was getting concerned and then ended up laughing when I got to the end. ;D
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Post by Rob on Oct 22, 2008 14:38:39 GMT
;D
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He never dunnit
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Post by Swanny on Oct 22, 2008 16:58:07 GMT
I still don't know what this "part 2" is all about. I personally would take any allegations with a pinch of salt anyway. We have a proper established legal system for justice in this country. Otherwise you might as well believe every bit of gossip you read in the tabloid press, which has wrecked many lives from false allegations I might add over the years.
One thing I am clear about, and I am probably speaking on behalf of the silent majority of TUFC fans, is that I am delighted to have our current setup at our club. I have waited years for our club to be run professionally that we can all be proud of. And the last thing I want is for some sort of scandal to jeopardise this and send the club backwards again. Colin Lee is clearly the best man qualified to run the club professionally and is doing a magnificant job, and I am sure will continue to do so given the chance.
Here is a man who started his playing career at our club, played at the top tier of English football, and managed at the second tier of English football and rescued us from the Conference in the Barnet season. I have always followed his career with interest and was absolutely delighted when he returned last season. It was he who chose Buckle as manager and is clearly shrewd at transfer negotiations etc. etc. Our club has come a long way in a short space of time and Colin Lee has fully played his part in this transformation.
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Post by daveshaw on Oct 22, 2008 17:18:36 GMT
Completely agree. Who should we believe if it came down to a your word v their word situation? I think i would lean towards the directors owners and employees.
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Post by Dave on Oct 22, 2008 17:20:53 GMT
Some very good points there swangull and a views that many would agree with, who were looking from the outside.
If one believes that this part two Is some wild allegation, then you would have to ask why the person who made It did so.Part one Is most defiantly very true, unless the facts told to me were lies and I would have to ask why would I be told them, what would be the point.
Well If I had to try and answer that , then to try and make part two look true, then there would have to be a part one, do you believe that one person would have gone to all this trouble, making up some story that simply wasn't true?
This a person so over the moon that he was giving the opportunity to be the main sponsor Of the club he loves.Like I said I think that just maybe a way has been found to stop this getting out, but people do know and It will get around somehow, but without any legal case etc, It will just come down to what people want to believe, I know what I believe and that Is based On so much more than this story.
I have had no contact with Sean for a while, maybe he has just walked away from all Of this, maybe the club are unhappy who he has talked too, I really don't know, I just feel so frustrated that what some have been told can't be told to all. who then could really make a proper judgments.
The board Is the board we always wanted and we should be over the moon with the whole progress Of the club and the team and maybe that Is what we should all really focus On.
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