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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 20:40:28 GMT
I do wonder Merse just why the club seems to be avoiding explaining why they have lost sponsorship and this Is why this thread was started, to simply point out Its time for some answers from the board.
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Post by Rob on Oct 15, 2008 20:46:03 GMT
I can't see how they can explain it without either a degree of embarassment or with a big payout on another contract.
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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 20:49:16 GMT
How very true Rob, so what do they do, just keep their heads down and hope It all goes away, I would hope that someone would not let them just do that.
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Post by Rob on Oct 15, 2008 21:08:04 GMT
I agree with my earlier statement echoed by ohtobeatplainmoor's post on the Youth Team sponsor thread. A public slagging match will help nobody. If it gets out, then maybe a further statement/first statement.
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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 21:12:56 GMT
Rob I do not believe anyone Is looking for any public slanging match, just the facts and reasons the main sponsor felt He could no longer continue to carry on the arrangements, be made known.
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Post by Rob on Oct 15, 2008 21:21:26 GMT
I would not expect the Club to release a statement dealing with how another person felt. It is for that person to do that and clearly their advice led to the statement we have all read with it's reference made to an "employee".
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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 21:28:23 GMT
Trust me the statement would need to contain much more than how a person felt, It could start with what has happened, why Sean feels the way he does and who Is responsible and a few more things that I won't ask for here.
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Post by Rob on Oct 15, 2008 21:38:07 GMT
My point is that such a statement - ie. with the references you make - is more for the sponsor than the Club to draft. Should they be so advised.
If the Club were announcing that they had dispensed of someone's services in conjunction with an agreed statement, then that would be different.
But to be seen to undermine that person whilst in post might allow that person to claim they had been constructively dismissed.
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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 21:45:25 GMT
The problem Is Rob with the way the only statement they have made, was worded and that Is the first part that should be corrected. I hope that Sean will be able to put out a statement If the club does not. It would only be when Is legal team said It would be OK.
If not one way Or the other and piece by piece, everything will be brought out.
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Post by crispygull on Oct 15, 2008 22:07:14 GMT
The problem Is Rob with the way the only statement they have made, was worded and that Is the first part that should be corrected. Dave Hasn't Sean already cleared that up though, by the statement made in the Herald Express? If I have understood you correctly, you feel that the statement made on the club website could have been interpreted by some to mean that in some way CLB were in some sort of financial difficulty? However, to be fair to the club it didn't actually say that at all, it merely inferred that TUFC would pursue CLB for any monies owed to them under the sponsorship arrangement, which is an entirely different thing. Now, if the club has made such a statement when in fact all payments due to the club under the sponsorship arrangement are indeed up to date - then that clearly would be out of order - and I would expect a full and public apology to be made by the club. Let's face it, Sean Melhuish has confirmed that the reason the sponsorship has been brought to an end is not down to any financial problems on the part of CLB , but that there had been a problem with an employee of TUFC. Whilst the statement made on the website could have been interepreted in another way, let's face it how many people actually read the official website ... and how many more read the Herald Express ... where any confusion has surely been cleared up? I appreciate that Sean has some issues with an employee of TUFC, and whoever that may be I think it's fairly safe to assume he must be pretty high profile within the club, but I hope that this situation doesn't degenerate into a public slanging match, which can only be harmful to the football club in all honesty. Far better for it to be resolved between Sean, the directors of the football club and the individual employee concerned privately on this occasion in my opinion. Whilst it was vital for the future of our football club that Chris Roberts was exposed for what he really was, and you played no small part in that , I'm not sure that this particular situation can ultimately do anything but harm to the football club if it is exposed in the same way - not least because the individual employee concerned may (or may not, of course) be a vital part of it's future success?
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Post by tufc01 on Oct 15, 2008 22:10:48 GMT
Well just wait and see then, the people on here have their opinions about it and are trying to get their message across. The club also have an outlet...the Official Torquay United Site and also the Herald. I'm sure you'll look back on that statement and [glow=yellow,2,300]laugh[/glow] when all is clear, but i can understand you want answers as does everyone If that is the case can't someone just PM us with their version of events, so we are a little bit informed rather than the increasing speculation that is NOT doing anyone any favours at the moment. From what i can make out at the moment both sides seem to be as bad as each other? ?? Obviously that is the humble opinion of someone who has NO idea what is going on/has gone on, and is losing interest in a story that has COMPLETELY overshadowed a fantastic few weeks that has seen us totally dominate games (With the exception of the second half against Oxford) and make giant strides towards promotion. A lot of people are saying it will come out eventually, etc etc and we will be surprised etc etc, the fact that it hasn't yet suggests, as the saying goes, there is no smoke without fire. Lets hope this doesn't drag on much longer.
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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 22:16:27 GMT
tufc01, I will pull you up on one point and that Is that you said one was as bad as the other. That Is not the case and I know this is getting In the way Of talking about the team etc, It Is important for many reasons that will become clear when any news does break.
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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 22:26:04 GMT
Crispy, yes Sean made It clear that his company Is sound and has no money problems, trust me Sean thought the statement on.com, made It look other wise and he asked that It should be taken down or reworded.
Merse asked the question, was this the way to treat a sponsor? would It put others Off? Sean Is not on my xmas card list, but trust me on this, he Is guilty Of nothing and the club should be the ones to put this right and take the action It needs too.
I really hope like you do, that this is sorted soon, how It gets sorted I do not know, It Is not going to be easy. The important thing Is It must not be allowed to start effecting others at the club and even more so the players.
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Post by tufc01 on Oct 15, 2008 22:28:01 GMT
tufc01, I will pull you up on one point and that Is that you said one was as bad as the other. That Is not the case and I know this is getting In the way Of talking about the team etc, [glow=yellow,2,300]It Is important for many reasons that will become clear when any news does break[/glow]. Dave, How do I and 99% (actually with 200 members and only 2 people 'knowing' the 'truth' thats about right) of the people on here know that?? We HAVE to base our information on what we have been presented with. So far this amounts to what can be gleaned from the club website (whether its been signed or not) and the HE. So i have to stand by what i said earlier. A theme that runs through the forum is that we should only form opinions on information that we are given, so you will have to forgive me for my opinion at this present moment in time.
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Post by Dave on Oct 15, 2008 22:37:51 GMT
So you should tufc01, that Is the only thing you can do and I fully respect your views and position On this. You must understand that when you know something It enables you to make more informed judgments, I wish everyone could know, not that I would ever say I told you so.
If Sean wants to talk but can't and the club could talk but won't, what would you think the reasons could be. Do you really think Sean would have ever wanted to end his sponsorship? this guy, not liked by some, was so proud to be able to do this, do you think, It was just something someone said, that just upset him?
No, sadly Its bigger and much worse than that, so ask yourself just why he has taken this action.
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