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Post by Dave on Oct 14, 2008 15:01:05 GMT
Scott I have posted above todays log that shows no post made by you has been deleted.If you do not believe me then please join this forum support.proboards.com/index.cgiStart a thread for the attention Of Craig who Is a proboards staff member. You will need to start It On the support board Of the fourm. In you post give him this sites address torquayfansforum.proboards.comExplain that you feel a post has been deleted and ask him to check this forums security log, you can tell Craig that I have asked you to do this. He has full excess to the log and will inform you that admins on forums can not alter the logs in anyway. Many thanks Dave admin Torquay Fans Forum Ps. please do not forget to come on here and post your findings.
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Post by Rob on Oct 14, 2008 15:24:59 GMT
The reason I asked, Dave, is that merse mentioned the Chief Exec in one of his posts.
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Post by Dave on Oct 14, 2008 15:27:57 GMT
You know Merse Rob, has a clever way Of posting and a style all Of his own
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Post by Dave on Oct 14, 2008 15:54:15 GMT
It appears that our member scottbrehaut has problems posting on the forum, he has managed to send me a PM that he has stated I can put on this post.
Can I say sorry to Scott for jumping to the wrong conclusions, Its just that I hold very dear to me that this forum Is honest and very open In everything It does.If any post ever needed to be removed, I would state that It had been and that I had removed It.
here Is Scott's message to me.
Hi Dave,
No conspiracy theories here - and I never mentioned that I felt my post was deleted. I was just wondering where my post went.......it was a long post that I had written that had several questions in it, and I had quoted something you had said in one your your first emails as well. On reflection I should have just PM'd you asking what had happened - no malice was intended
It probably got lost in cyber space, after I had clicked "post reply" my screen went back to the log in page and asked me to log in again. When I did my post wasnt there.....as I said at the start I did not think my post had been deleted - just wondered where it had gone.
PS Having problems sending this direct to the forum - it doesnt seem to let me post it.....a problem with my work connection I think. If you receive this please could you send this to the forum on my behalf
Thanks Scott for taking the time to explain the problem.
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Post by scottbrehaut on Oct 14, 2008 15:57:22 GMT
Thanks Dave - have reset the system now and seems to work again now. B****y computers!!
Thanks for posting my response.
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Post by Dave on Oct 14, 2008 16:04:20 GMT
Thanks Dave - have reset the system now and seems to work again now. B****y computers!! Thanks for posting my response. They are a pain at times, but what would we do without them ;D It was just that your post could have been taken by some that It had been removed and posts from posters like yourself would never run the risk Of me ever having to do that. Thanks Dave
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Post by atheringtongull on Oct 14, 2008 16:05:02 GMT
It's possible Scott was timed out and when he "posted" he was probably not logged in. It happened to me once. I spent ages writing a post which was never sent because I realised after I was only logged on for 30 mins. and had pent longer than that writing it!!
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Post by Dave on Oct 14, 2008 16:14:37 GMT
atheringtongull.I would say that could well be the reason, as long as you do log out when you leave the forum, It matters not how long you had logged In for. All that happens Is a cookie is placed on you computer, so If you just closed the site without logging out, you could simply open the site again and not have to log in, during that time frame.
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Post by bitemebryn on Oct 14, 2008 16:27:28 GMT
Have to say my initial reaction to all of this was that it had to have something to do with Colin Lee and the sponsor. CL does seem to have a knack of getting peoples backs up. Whoever it is I'm sure it'll all come out in the not to distant future.
And why do I keep thinking about new stands and building contracts ? hmmm !
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Post by scottbrehaut on Oct 14, 2008 16:30:25 GMT
Do you really want me to believe, that you would not want to know, just what has happened to make the main sponsor pull out. Of course most of us wish to know what is going on - in the same way most of us were desperate to know what was going on with the goalkeeping farce last season and were met with radio silence from the club. In hindsight this was probably a good thing, and I think the club probably are doing the right thing this time too. The statement hasnt been worded in a confusing manner to me - the way I read it is that the sponsor of the youth team has pulled out of the arrangement, and that the club are actively seeking any financial recourse as a result of this. The fact that people are reading into this in a different way doesnt matter really - rumours would be flying around regardless of what was put, and it is obvioulsy not in the best interests of either party at the moment to release the full facts of the matter. I would imagine that they have released the statement mentioned at the start of this topic as a matter of course as it impacts the club as a whole, and most of the supporters will notice straight away the lack of a youth team sponsor (etc), after all most people noticed that lack of the sponsors banner on the grandstand the other week. There is a fine line the club needs to tread when dealing with these sorts fo matters - whilst there was no need to release a statement regarding the sponsorship of the grandstand, this is a very different kettle of fish due to the far reaching impacts it could have for TUFC. What is concerning is the fact that this has happened not as a result of anything the club has done, but something that an employee of the club has done - it doesnt state either the statement from the club, or City Link Builders in what capacity the person is employed (as there is no need) other than the fact that it is not a director of the club. To me the main worry is the future of the youth set up - it would be a shame for it all to fall apart due to the falling out of the sponsor and an employee - especially if it wasnt anything to do with the club. Neither party has come out of this smelling of roses by any means, but given the statements that have been issued to the press today it does smack of the sponsor throwing his toys out of the pram over one disagreement with an associate of the club. The fact that a resolution could not have been reached before coming to this is a concern, and if it is nothing to do with the club, but merely a personal matter with an employee of the club why should the sponsor take it out on the club itself. We certainly havent heard the end of this by any means, here is hoping that a resolution is found and this matter can be resolved amicably, and to the satisfaction of both parties.
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Post by Dave on Oct 14, 2008 16:31:36 GMT
bitemebryn, can I please put to bed any ideas this has anything to do with building stands, as that Is way Off the mark, It will come out and as long as It Is both parts and not just one part(that I fear could happen) then fans will fully understand why the sponsorship has been stopped.
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Post by merse on Oct 14, 2008 16:34:41 GMT
The reason I asked, Dave, is that merse mentioned the Chief Exec in one of his posts. Surely any official statement from the Football Club would come from either an executive or a director. As there is no name put to the statement, one can reasonably assume it is either from the Chief Executive or the Chairman. Unless the club intend to be more forthcoming, they can have no reasonable objection to that assumption being made. Whilst I do know the identity of the employee involved, I do not know the identity of the issuer of the statement. I would assume that if it were an executive, then it would be with the authority or consent of the Chairman. Surely it is fair to be able to say that.
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Post by Dave on Oct 14, 2008 16:37:35 GMT
Scott, glad that you got your post on mate, I think the club wish they had worded the statement better. As for Sean throwing his toys out Of the pram, that Is not the case.It is far more than two people falling out and when the full story comes out, you may just see some people In a different light and I don't mean Sean.
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Post by bitemebryn on Oct 14, 2008 16:41:00 GMT
bitemebryn, can I please put to bed any ideas this has anything to do with building stands, as that Is way Off the mark, It will come out and as long as It Is both parts and not just one part(that I fear could happen) then fans will fully understand why the sponsorship has been stopped. Furry muff Dave, but it is something I've heard touted in a few conversations since the summer. Anyway about the youth set up......................
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Post by scottbrehaut on Oct 14, 2008 16:45:50 GMT
Scott, glad that you got your post on mate, I think the club wish they had worded the statement better. As for Sean throwing his toys out Of the pram, that Is not the case.It is far more than two people falling out and when the full story comes out, you may just see some people In a different light and I don't mean Sean. In the Herald Express Seans statement, via his lawyer, states that he had a problem with AN employee of the club - hence the reason I have assumed that this is a falling out between Sean and one other. If this is not the case then I feel that the statement could have been worded better in this case.
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