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Post by merse on Apr 26, 2010 22:01:52 GMT
are you sure you're not my Dad? ;D  Depends who your mother is really doesn't it! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 22:04:52 GMT
give us a clue as I know that being the fine upstanding individual that you are, I'm sure it can't that bad ;D Well, it's a word I learnt from one of those rough Brixham boys... |
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Post by stuartB on Apr 26, 2010 22:06:52 GMT
are you sure you're not my Dad? ;D Depends who your mother is really doesn't it! Indeed but on a positive note: The positive input that you have with your lad would have been fantastic for any youngster and you should be proud of yourself  |
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Post by merse on Apr 26, 2010 22:12:32 GMT
Well thankyou, but I must say we keep politics out of it!
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Post by stuartB on Apr 26, 2010 22:18:23 GMT
Well thankyou, but I must say we keep politics out of it! politics and religion cause more problems than they are worth. family is everything!! my twins are 4 on Sunday and they mean more to me than any election!! keep up the good work with the lad because he will make you very proud one day and the forum will be proud to say that we heard all about this great star growing up and the sacrifices his Dad freely gave. We are a family on here and any little differences should be brushed under the carpet and not taken too seriously. get well soon Merse  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 22:59:04 GMT
A political recollection: around the time Torquay United were bottom of the 4th Division in the 1980s I stood for Labour in the South Ribble District Council elections (New Longton and Hutton East). Guess where I finished? Bleak times the 1980s....I remember being best man at a wedding in Preston and explaining in my speech that I wasn't in a position to make jokes about Preston North End (who'd just finished 91st in the Football League) for the simple reason that.... One time TUFC Vice-President Frederick Layland-Barratt MP (see page 11 of Mike Holgate's book) was a Liberal. And he had a decent stint from 1900 to 1910. Otherwise there was Lewis McIver (1885-86) and Piers Gilchrist Thompson (1923-24) who squeezed in for the Liberals at times when General Elections were becoming an annual event. But that was at the time when the Liberals were a force and, in 1924, there was some consternation in Torquay about these Labour chappies coming along and splitting the vote. Thereafter it was the Tories all the way to 1997 - the Wiki entry about Sir Frederic is worth a read (Wiki being excellent for this sort of thing). And, of course, the Torbay seat isn't Torbay Borough - Brixham and parts of Paignton being part of the Totnes seat (is Aussie standing there by any chance?). |
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Post by Dave on Apr 27, 2010 9:47:42 GMT
We are a family on here and any little differences should be brushed under the carpet and not taken too seriously. We are indeed a family on here Stuart and there is never any need for us to fall out with each other, we are all big enough and ugly enough to be able to disagree and never start getting bad feelings toward eachother. A thread like this is always in danger of getting a bit out of hand, thankfully that has not really happened but it has come close a few times. At the end of the day I believe you should vote for who you believe are saying the things you really agree with and the direction they say they want to take this country. If everyone did not vote for the party they wanted just because it is claimed it will be a wasted vote, then we may as well have only two parties to choose from. If people only voted that way then there will never be any change and we may never know if there really is a better way than how it has been for far too long. So vote for who you believe has the policies that are important to you and if enough people want the same things to happen that you want, then that party will get it, it’s called democracy and I don’t believe you should have to vote for a party you do not believe in, just to stop another one gaining power in this country. I got my postal vote papers in the post today, I think it’s a bit mad that I live in Paignton and can’t vote for anyone in Torbay and I have to vote for someone in Totnes. Why it is that way I do not know, but as I live in the Bay it’s the Bay I care about and really should have a say in who gets in at Torbay. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2010 10:55:44 GMT
I got my postal vote papers in the post today, I think it’s a bit mad that I live in Paignton and can’t vote for anyone in Torbay and I have to vote for someone in Totnes. Why it is that way I do not know, but as I live in the Bay it’s the Bay I care about and really should have a say in who gets in at Torbay. That’s probably because Torbay has more than enough voters for one seat but not enough for two. The idea is to keep constituencies at roughly the same number of electors in each. In Devon, according to the link below, the aim is for around 70,000 voters per seat: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Parliamentary_constituencies_in_DevonThis shows how the greater part of Teignbridge is now the new Newton Abbot parliamentary constituency; the Dartmoor and upper Teign valley parts of Teignbridge being hived off to the new Devon Central seat (which has been cobbled together from a lot of “leftovers”). |
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Post by merse on Apr 27, 2010 11:23:38 GMT
We are a family on here and any little differences should be brushed under the carpet and not taken too seriously. I made it quite clear on here how I loved the old days of the market square hustings and really all I've tried to do on here is instill a bit of that as opposed to the present day drab, sound bite, 30 second attention span, approach and those awful phony "3 Leaders On The Telly" farces in which there isn't one ruddy good row! Chucking eggs at and dragging Quentin Hogg off his podium are absolute highlights for me.......................can anyone else remember that senile old bugger striking out with his walking stick at the hecklers? Absolute classic stuff and a proper election in my view! Politics and family eh? You should have been in this house when Bijou exercised her right to vote in this country for the first time and voted for that idiot Boris Johnson  |
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Post by lambethgull on Apr 27, 2010 17:39:54 GMT
Whilst it's not in anyone's interest for debates to descend into slanging matches, people can certainly get a bit prescious at times. I've never understood why people feel then need to add 'just my opinion' after their posts. What else are we supposed to think it is? Debate is good, and the more rigorous a critique of a view is, the more likely the poster of that view is to consider and/or defend that view - both to themselves and to others. And let's be honest, being labelled a 'turkey who votes for Christmas' could only sting if a part of us thought it was true, wouldn't it? |
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Post by stefano on Apr 28, 2010 12:38:48 GMT
I see Gordon Brown had one of those "Stop the World and let's get off" moments up North this morning! You just can't call respectable pensioners bigots, especially when they have voted Labour all their lives! That could be considered as worse than the occasional name calling Dave has to control on here. Bound to swing the 'grey' vote. Oh well, at least it will mean there won't be a 'hung' (or 'balanced' as the BBC likes to call it) Parliament this time. See some good comes out of everything |
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Post by lambethgull on Apr 28, 2010 13:47:22 GMT
This Brown incident will play badly, but is the typical non-story that simpletons the length and breadth of the country lap up.
Does anyone believe that David Cameron and his Eton educated chums do anything other than look down their toffee-noses to almost everyone they meet? Especially those useful idiots amongst the working classes and lower middle-classes who vote for them?
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Post by capitalgull on Apr 28, 2010 14:04:59 GMT
This Brown incident will play badly, but is the typical non-story that simpletons the length and breadth of the country lap up. Does anyone believe that David Cameron and his Eton educated chums do anything other than look down their toffee-noses to almost everyone they meet? Especially those useful idiots amongst the working classes and lower middle-classes who vote for them? Precisely; if anyone seriously thinks Cameron and Clegg don't say exactly the same stuff (they manage to take off their microphones first of course) then they must be slightly deluded! Have to say the funniest line I've heard so far came from the BNP's party election broadcast on Monday (I stumbled across it waiting for Eggheads to start on BBC2!!) - cut to Nick Griffin, sitting at a desk with a picture of Winston Churchill behind him, and he comes out with the pearler - WE DON'T HATE ANYBODY! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2010 16:33:59 GMT
I fear that the swift attempts by mandelsongull & others to spin 'Bigotgate' as a 'non story' are destined to failure. Many of us no doubt remember Gerald Ratner portraying his customers as idiots for being stupid enough to spend money on some of the tat his Company produced. I doubt he was alone in holding such views but the big mistake is making such views public knowledge. Brown knows he's dropped a clanger with this one by slagging off dear old Labour voting Mrs.Duffy & he's going to really struggle to deflect attention away from this and onto the other big stories of the day.  |
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Post by aussie on Apr 28, 2010 17:01:16 GMT
The government want to give the airlines a £2 billion pay out for the volcanic ash debarcle, from us the TAX PAYER! Well they can f**k off!!!! My aerial and sattelite business went down the swanny because of the digital switch over and the rescession so where the hell is my pay out of millions of pounds from the tax payer! Are these people in the real world or what?  |
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