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Post by longeatongull on Apr 25, 2009 17:07:09 GMT
If we were mid table & tomorrows game was a bit of a nothing occasion then by all means make a bit more of an 'event' out of the POTY presentation. As it's a big game tomorrow I think it should be easily possible to tailor the presentation as to cause no harm to pre match preparations. If it's won by a player taking part in the match then make the presentaion short & sweet, I'm sure the fans would understand its not the time for lengthy cermonies. After the pre match warm up at 2.30 pm or whenever.. the winning player could take an extra 30 seconds to accept the award as he leaves the pitch. The applause of the home fans ringing in his ears would surely boost his confidence as he then prepares for the game. I can't see that would disrupt anything & as it is an award which reflects the supporters opinions there must be a way whereby the Plainmoor crowd can show their appreciation to the winner. If the award is to Steve Woods then there's no problem at all. Present the trophy at a time when Buckle & his players are in the changing room. Again I'm sure the fans would quite readily understand that the circumstances of this 'last' match are a bit different than usual & that Bucks & his squad need to be together preparing, but the important aspect that an award which is primarily about the views of supporters is made in front of those very supporters is maintained & they can show their appreciation to the winner. Should Woods win it might concentrate the minds of the Consortium & make them wonder why with all the resources lavished on Buckle we are struggling to hold down a top five position in this League and why their Managers view is so at odds to that of so many supporters ( those on this forum excepted). With the expensive squad assembled I would have expected the Plainmoor tea lady to have had no trouble guiding us to a higher position in the League, but as we so often say it's all about opinions & I fully respect those who can find some merit in Buckles managerial ability. Let's all hope for a win tomorrow but don't tell me it wasn't possible to find a minute to shake someones hand & pass him a trophy before letting him trot off the pitch 30 seconds after his team mates. I don't think it was asking a lot & I think the fans deserve better. In a worse case scenario there might well be a choice between championship football at Plymouth, league One football at Exeter or enduring another season of Buckles non league hoofball at Plainmoor. Therefore it's important not to alienate the fans any more than is absolutely necessary otherwise you'll find even fewer deciding on a trip to Plainmoor however cheap you make the season tickets! You really cant leave it alone can you Alpine?? Your negativity stinks and is getting really boring. Tomorrow is so important for so many of us but yet again you can resist the anti PB shout can you?? Why not just stay away from these boards and Plainmoor. Go and play with your mate --Chris R on the M5!!!!! |
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Post by ospelgull on Apr 25, 2009 19:25:12 GMT
Alpine Joe,
Why don't you try and give your views directly to the board members. Chuck some money in and you could even get on the board. Then you can try to convince them that you know how to do it.
It's not so difficult to choose between Championship football or L2/BSP football. You can go to Home Park every two weeks, plenty empty seats...
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Post by kevgull on Apr 25, 2009 19:43:44 GMT
Let us award the MOTM and then POTS Celebrations are like a box of chocolates.......ya never know what yer gonna get!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2009 23:35:43 GMT
ospelgull It's a nice thought Ospel. I think a great many supporters wish they were affluent enough to be able to buy their way onto the Board of their favourite Club. I don't think our Board are mugs & they won't need to be convinced by me or anyone else that the huge amounts of money they've put in to enable us to assemble a large squad of talented well paid players shouldn't see us entering the final league game sweating on whether we will or will not finish in the top five. They can see for themselves the low attendance figures recorded at Plainmoor on several occasions this season & how our defence looks far less assured than it did a couple of months ago. Hopefully they will tackle the root cause of these problems the moment the season is over. Admitting to an error would be the more sensible way forward than continuing to shovel cash at it in an attempt to disguise it. But I may still take my Post Office savings book along to the match tomorrow & if that three figure sum impresses the right people I'll give you a wave from the Directors box. Enjoy the game, Alpine Joe |
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Post by merse on Apr 26, 2009 8:06:52 GMT
I don't think our Board are mugs & they won't need to be convinced by me or anyone else that the huge amounts of money they've put in to enable us to assemble a large squad of talented well paid players shouldn't see us entering the final league game sweating on whether we will or will not finish in the top five. They can see for themselves the low attendance figures recorded at Plainmoor on several occasions this season & how our defence looks far less assured than it did a couple of months ago. Hopefully they will tackle the root cause of these problems the moment the season is over. Admitting to an error would be the more sensible way forward than continuing to shovel cash at it in an attempt to disguise it.  What a typical piece of buffoonery combined with bitterness and nastiness you are Joe. So you really think that those who throw the most money at something are the ones who automatically come out on top do you? Take a look at Chelsea sunshine, take a look at the England cricket and rugby teams; in fact just go along to any training ground and see the hard work and painstaking effort put in by so many squads striving to be the best. When they are working and planning, training and straining to be fitter, fast, better than the opposition they're not thinking about money you silly man. If our board was filled with people like you then God help us. Do you have a sporting background? Have you ever competed against someone else trying exactly the same as you to finish on top? Have you ever been a sportsman? If you have I guess you would be the one who turns up at his local cricket club nets and wonders why the bat you spent hundreds of pounds on makes you look a complete birk as you thrash wildly in vain to hit that little red object hurtling towards you at one hundred miles an hour. "Hopefully tackling the root cause of the problem the moment the season is over"; "admitting to an error"...............so you are HOPING that Bucks is sacked to you nasty little piece of know nothing, done nothing, offer nothing. Even if we come out on top and win promotion, you HOPE the board act like that do you? There were nasty little whisperers doing their poisonous business when we played up at Crawley back at the beginning of the season. I guess you were one of those spreading the "inside knowledge" that "Bucks had three games to go before he was history"Nasty, nasty little people who infest OUR club like dung beetles, nasty, nasty little people who hold some grudge against a young management team and their squad as if they were somehow letting the club down after years and years of unbridled success and achievement..................Nasy, nasty minded little people. |
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 26, 2009 9:05:46 GMT
What root problem?
Here we are on the morning of one of the most important games for our club and you're talking about 'a root problem?' Strange.....
If you want to talk problems go on message boards for Wrexham, Oxford, Mansfield, York... all bigger clubs than us and who would give their right arms to be in our position....
Why, oh why do people think we're a big club, we're not, we're a great little family club with ambition, but it takes time and patience for anything to come to fruition. The problem today with instant credit, fast food, reality shows and immediate gratification is so many people expect instant success and reward without the work and perserverance. Sorry Alpinejoe but real success doesn't work like that...
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Post by Enzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:56:18 GMT
What root problem? Here we are on the morning of one of the most important games for our club and you're talking about 'a root problem?' Strange..... If you want to talk problems go on message boards for Wrexham, Oxford, Mansfield, York... all bigger clubs than us and who would give their right arms to be in our position.... Why, oh why do people think we're a big club, we're not, we're a great little family club with ambition, but it takes time and patience for anything to come to fruition. The problem today with instant credit, fast food, reality shows and immediate gratification is so many people expect instant success and reward without the work and perserverance. Sorry Alpinejoe but real success doesn't work like that... I was going to stay out of this until our fate is decided, the team deserves us all to be pulling in the same direction until our fate is clear. However, you once again fall into the trap of labeling those who have dared to criticize Buckle over the past season as people who do so on the basis that they believe we are a big club and have a god given right to a place in the football league...........this is just one label applied by some pretty sanctimonious posters on this website. Another favourite of mine is the ridiculous notion that anyone critical of Buckle is that way inclined because of his Exeter City links. Suddenly, we have nasty nasty people raging an evil whispering campaign! Get real! I have never knowingly met Alpine, and for all I know he may feel that we are too big a club for this league........or he may well base his opinions on a hatred for Exeter. However, there are many fans who feel that Buckle has been given support way beyond any other TUFC Manager and to his credit has assembled a squad that is good enough to get into the Play Offs at the very least. Think back to the start of the season particularly how fans, pundits, bookies and anyone who knew anything about the BSP tipped us to have one of the strongest squads in the league. With the strength of this squad, coupled with the fantastic backroom support, match day preparations and additional sanctioning of purchases and loans such as Bevan, Christie, Sturridge throughout the season were we not to make the play offs, even if it were on goal difference, I think there will be a complete evaluation of exactly what went wrong. I think some of the signings, tactics and squad rotation / management of Paul Buckle should be pretty high on that list. Obviously, according to many on here that must make me: 1. A juvenile who is only fit to post on .net 2. Someone who simply never player football to the standard that those on here have. 3. An Exeter City hater who simply cannot see beyond his hatred for all things red and white. 4. Someone who thinks we are too big for this league. 5. All of the above. For the record, I am not a juvenile, have no hatred of Exeter, have a realistic view of what TUFC can expect to achieve and would put money on the fact that I have player football to a far higher standard than most on here. I am just a fan who feels that failure to make the play offs would be a massive under achievement by the current squad. Hopefully, this is all pie in the sky. We have the squad to beat anyone in this league and I'll be there shouting the team and Paul Buckle on. |
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Post by Fonda on Apr 26, 2009 10:08:47 GMT
Pretty much exactly my own thoughts too Enzo, which i've been trying, evidently unsuccessfully; to portray for some time.
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 26, 2009 10:11:45 GMT
Enzo... you put my post in quotes as if this is anything to do with me, it's not. I was replying to the rubbish alpinejoe wrote on the morning of an important game.
Have I ever called anyone a juvenile who should only post on dot net?
Have I ever mentioned to what standard I, or others on here, have played football?
Have I ever mentioned anyone being an Exeter City hater?
have I ever said that anyone reckons we are too big for this league?
A short answer, either yes or no, will suffice on this most important of days...
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Post by Enzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:17:26 GMT
Pretty much exactly my own thoughts too Enzo, which i've been trying, evidently unsuccessfully; to portray for some time. Thats all I bloody need! Thanks! |
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Post by Dave on Apr 26, 2009 10:26:52 GMT
Enzo you know I have always agreed with many of your views and you are one poster who will always tell it as you see it. Most of your views about the end of last season were shared by many on the forum.
If things do not work out as we would like today, then yes that will be the time to ask questions, I just think that alpines post made before we even know our fate was bound to get a reaction, as we need to just keep our thoughts today on the big game ahead.
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Post by chesneygull on Apr 26, 2009 10:29:36 GMT
There are arguments for and against the awards being held / not held today.
Ultimately, what is the most important outcome today (apart from Merse's new arrival).........TUFC getting into the play-offs. I'm sure Hargreaves was happy about last season's award but what would he prefer to be thinking about?
End of.
Come on you Yellows!
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Post by Enzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:30:51 GMT
Enzo... you put my post in quotes as if this is anything to do with me, it's not. I was replying to the rubbish alpinejoe wrote on the morning of an important game. have I ever said that anyone reckons we are too big for this league? A short answer, either yes or no, will suffice on this most important of days... You state "why oh why do people think we are such a big club" Apologies if I took that as an insinuation that you feel that some people think we are too big for this league. The other points were aimed at "many on here", as was much of the post. Apologies also to have used more than one word. I'll put the w@nkyness of your last sentence down to us all being nervous on this all important day. Enjoy the game and lets hope we can debate Buckle's tactics for the play offs! |
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Post by Enzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:34:16 GMT
Enzo you know I have always agreed with many of your views and you are one poster who will always tell it as you see it. Most of your views about the end of last season were shared by many on the forum. If things do not work out as we would like today, then yes that will be the time to ask questions, I just think that alpines post made before we even know our fate was bound to get a reaction, as we need to just keep our thoughts today on the big game ahead. I agree that now is not the time and will be at Plainmoor cheering us on. I said so in my original post. I also think we should never be in this position in the first place. |
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Post by cav on Apr 26, 2009 10:44:56 GMT
I cannot believe people are still going on about meaningless end of season awards!! It's bollo* nonsense like this that makes us look like a joke! Talk about juvenile!
THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS GETTING INTO THE PLAY OFFS!!
We need every swinging dic* in the field to be at Plainmoor this afternoon supporting United. We need to turn Plainmoor into an "away fixture" with the amount of noise and support we can generate today.
YELLOWS, YELLOWS, YELLOWS, YELLOWS, YELLOWS, YELLOWS
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