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Post by stewj on Jul 14, 2008 15:26:02 GMT
Should we be worried that Bournemouth's goalkeeper Neil Moss has been forced to retire? With the Poke signing delayed and delayed, will he opt for a League club closer to home?
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Post by spagbol74 on Jul 14, 2008 15:29:31 GMT
I keep checking the Yeovil site too, as they are due to tie up a keeper signing from a Championship club
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Post by Dave on Jul 14, 2008 15:38:56 GMT
Should we be worried that Bournemouth's goalkeeper Neil Moss has been forced to retire? With the Poke signing delayed and delayed, will he opt for a League club closer to home? Poke wants to come here, there are a few problems still to be sorted, If they are, then as I already have said, you will be more than just pleased with the news.
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Post by stewj on Jul 14, 2008 15:47:10 GMT
I was told on Saturday that the delay is at the Southampton end. Apparently Rupert Lowe is doing everything and slowing it all down. With the Saints signing Forecast from Spurs I am hoping that the deal is a permanent one.
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Post by Dave on Jul 14, 2008 15:52:36 GMT
There are people in the way, that much is true, but like I said Poke wants to come here and If he does, it may be just what you would wish for. Rest assured plans are in place and names lined up, if it go's pear shaped.
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Post by bitemebryn on Jul 14, 2008 16:18:16 GMT
The delay and the signing of the lad from spurs to saints must surely mean a permant deal for Poke. I hope so, hopefully we'll know soon. Poke in goal tomorrow night at Newton would be nice to see.
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Post by Dave on Jul 14, 2008 16:25:04 GMT
The delay and the signing of the lad from spurs to saints must surely mean a permant deal for Poke. I hope so, hopefully we'll know soon. Poke in goal tomorrow night at Newton would be nice to see. I know everyone is getting frustrated by all of this, but as my mother said no news is good news. We would all be feeling different now, if we had been told the deal with Poke Is Off. Its not and is still on, but as I say a few things still in the way. The signs are very good, just keep the faith, in P.Buckle and co.
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Post by merse on Jul 14, 2008 17:58:04 GMT
The delay and the signing of the lad from spurs to saints must surely mean a permant deal for Poke. He isn't yet listed on the official Saints site...........I wasn't aware that the "lad from Spurs" hadn't yet signed for the Saints...................who would have forecast it!
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Post by Dave on Jul 15, 2008 7:20:47 GMT
To days Herald Express has reported , that an administration matter, has now delayed the signing of a new keeper. It states that the keeper is believed to be m.Poke. So it seems we may not have any news today, unless they can get it sorted. Looks like m.Rice in goal tonight then.
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Post by Dave on Jul 17, 2008 7:57:45 GMT
Dave Thomas, writes in todays Herald Express, that the delay over Poke Joining us, is all about sorting out the recall clause.
My information was correct about the fact that the club, were trying to sort out Poke coming here on a contract as our player. It was never said to me that Poke was demanding £3000 per a week and that would not be a realistic fugue to demand, playing for a BSP team. It was clear there were certain people involved with the negotiations, who were causing the holds ups.
If Dave Thomas is now correct, it is clear that those talks have all broken down and If Poke comes it may well be only on a season long loan, with recall clauses built in. I really do not think that if that was the case, it would be the best for the club and team.
One can't fault P.Buckle who has put so much time and work, trying to secure Pokes services, but one must ask, if in the end that time has been well spent and If other keepers have been talked too.
My understanding was that there was a keeper from Donny Rovers and one other, who the club may have talked to, it may now be the time, to pursue those possibility's with a bit more vigor, as surly we need to have a first choice keeper here, under contract.
Poke is a good keeper, who is still learning, but I would not be to happy If the deal, is now only going to be a loan, It would be just our luck, that he would get recalled, at a time where results, could be very crucial. It would also be a concern, that we would then be down to having just Rice, who as much as we really would like him to prove us all wrong, Is never going to inspire the fans, or his team mates.
Why we always seem to be in these situations with keepers, I do not know, but as I had said, the Poke deal could only happen when Raynor had been moved on. It seems that the real details over Poke were not sorted, or in place, when Raynor finally went. One would have felt, that there should have been enough time before that happened, to have got everything nailed down.
Not good really for a team, who many feel will be up the top and making a real challenge for promotion, to be starting the season, with a loan goal keeper, who could be gone at a moments notice.
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Post by tufcwewillbeback on Jul 17, 2008 9:05:44 GMT
This is concerning, however, Southampton have 3 other keepers after signing Forecast from Spurs. So Poke, now their 4th choice keeper, is surely extremely unlikely to be recalled again this season. For Poke to be recalled you would have to assume it would take longish injuries to two of their 3 keepers, at the same time. I therefore, would be pretty confident that a loan deal would mean him staying until the end of the season. Whatever people may think about Buckle's tactical descisions on the pitch, few would argue that he has done badly in the transfer market over the past two season's. If Buckle is so desperate to get Poke then it suggests to me that he feel's that Poke is the best available keeper and as we had problems in goal last season we need a good keeper if the team is going to mount a serous challenge for promotion.
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Post by Dave on Jul 17, 2008 9:18:20 GMT
I would agree that being forth choice, would reduce the risk on him getting recalled, but as he would not be our player, he could ask for Southampton, to take him back, if for arguments sake, he started having problems say with Buckle(It has been known for Manager and keeper to fall out).
It would be different if we was under contract as one would hope, that if that happened, it would be sorted out far better than it was last season. I know that such a problem would probably never happen, but Poke going back to Southampton, could not just depend, on Southampton, needing him for the first team.
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Post by crispygull on Jul 17, 2008 9:22:35 GMT
This is concerning, however, Southampton have 3 other keepers after signing Forecast from Spurs. So Poke, now their 4th choice keeper, is surely extremely unlikely to be recalled again this season. For Poke to be recalled you would have to assume it would take longish injuries to two of their 3 keepers, at the same time. I therefore, would be pretty confident that a loan deal would mean him staying until the end of the season. Whatever people may think about Buckle's tactical descisions on the pitch, few would argue that he has done badly in the transfer market over the past two season's. If Buckle is so desperate to get Poke then it suggests to me that he feel's that Poke is the best available keeper and as we had problems in goal last season we need a good keeper if the team is going to mount a serous challenge for promotion. I dont necessarily think the problem is the possibility of a Saints recall, its more about the very real possibility that a league club could come in for him in the January Transfer Window and buy him on a permanent basis, thereby leaving us (again!) scratching around in January for a new number one!
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Post by Dave on Jul 17, 2008 9:32:55 GMT
That is also a very good reason crispygull, why a loan deal, is not what we should be looking for. It may well be the case now, with the strart of the season, nearly on top of us, that having Poke on loan, is what we may have to start with.
I would really hope that there is one or two other keepers, the club, will try and get here under contract, before the season starts, I think Poke is a good promising keeper, but we all know from past experiences, that just having a player on loan, can end up costly.
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Post by bitemebryn on Jul 17, 2008 10:11:22 GMT
I dont necessarily think the problem is the possibility of a Saints recall, its more about the very real possibility that a league club could come in for him in the January Transfer Window and buy him on a permanent basis, thereby leaving us (again!) scratching around in January for a new number one! I'd be fairly happy with a season long loan, if we are now looking at trying to secure him in January. Yes there is always the possibilty of a league club after him, but who's to say he hasn't already turned down a league club this summer to come here. And as we've already proved, just the fact that a club is "football league" dosn't automatically mean players no longer want to come here instead. If we are up and around the top of the table come January then in a further six months we to could be back where we belong in the league and everybodys happy anyway!
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