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Post by aussie on Mar 8, 2009 20:13:24 GMT
It started in Scotland where fans were known to fill bottle tops with coins  Well I reckon the chances of a bunch of Sweaties collectively giving up their baubies to be as rare as a bunch of Aussies NOT having the names "Bruce" or "Sheila" amongst them! What the hell are baubies, more to the point what the hell are you on about, completely lost me, I know that ain`t hard to do but "baubies"!  |
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Post by steve2009 on Mar 8, 2009 20:28:32 GMT
........how come the 6 foot 5 goatee bearded steward (the steward was 6-5 not the beard by the way) on the pop yesterday (you all know him gang - the one with the shiny jackboots, erm I believe they call em beany hats n the tucked in black combat trousers - bit of an The Edge from U2 fixation possibly from him if u ask me - unlikely I know) was clearly seen supping from a bottle/container with a top on and putting it back in his pocket whilst on duty - oh I dunno! -I better shut up - at touching 5 ft 8 I'm easy meat for him!........ For some strange reason the rules regarding bottle tops dont apply to the stewards, or they just ignor them. good point, however this has been answered in an earlier posting, whilst a supporter, and i also class myself in this bracket, moves to the stands, stands or sits in one place, and may not move for the duration, we as stewards and especially myself, move around the stands to do our respective duties, i however whole heartedly agree with what may seem like one rule for them and one for us, but my response to this is if i had to run from one end of the pop stand to the other to deal with a situation, and you got splashed with coke all over your new TUFC shirt, you'd go ape, whilst you can quite freely get a drink either a bottle or a cuppa, we as stewards can't just walk away from our respective positions. surely this is an obvious reason, however if all the stewards were to congregate by the tea stand, not stand in position, not deal with smoking in the stands( yes people still light up), not deal with the c song issue, and not keep safety zones clear as is needed under HSE regs, or not to go about our duties as issued in the team briefings pre match, and just turn up to drink tea and coke, or even better not turn up and stay at home and get TUFC to pay for us to sit in the warm, maybe and only maybe that would please everyone, however we all know that is not going to happen and i for one, would miss the pop side, i am endeavoring to form a common ground meeting place via this forum for us to address issues and problems, and if i do not know the answers i will find out an answer, steve004 |
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Post by merse on Mar 8, 2009 20:36:47 GMT
What the hell are baubies, more to the point what the hell are you on about, completely lost me, I know that ain`t hard to do but "baubies"! Baubies=small change................just like yer Sheila gets you to hand over when you come home form work Bruce!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 20:43:06 GMT
The removal of bottle tops has been going on all over the place for some years. I'd certainly expect it at Football League grounds and I know Wembley is hot on it. I'm not sure about lower levels of the game, partly because I don't tend to buy fizzy drinks. Given my earlier comment about china mugs, things are usually pretty relaxed further down the leagues. And why not?
Bottle tops might - and I'm really not sure - have more to do with the Football Licensing Authority rather than the FA or any particular league (although I can't find anything on the FLA website one way or the other). It might be a recommendation for good practice rather than something enshrined in a rule book or legislation. Certainly it would aid in reducing the throwing of missiles which is an offence under the Football (Offences) Act 1991.
The FLA's activities actually only cover Wembley, the Millennium, Premier League and Football League grounds. These - together with other sports grounds with capacities of over 10,000 - are also designated under the Safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975. I can't see mention of the Conference in all of this although it is covered by The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985.
I've suspected there is a variation between Conference clubs with respect to segregation, searching and other things. I don't have a great problem with this and I suspect the ex-league clubs are probably adhering to the same standards as they did when in the Football League. That's fair enough if that's what suits, especially with respect to getting back in the Football League.
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Post by merse on Mar 8, 2009 20:43:31 GMT
things like having bottle tops removed do cause upset and risk losing even more fans. it is important to find out if this is just a club rule or not,as treating fans as young children may not be the way a professional football club should treat its fans. I'd suggest a good debate on just who Bucks is going to bring in on loan to spearhead the attack now that Sillsy has at last succumbed to injury after one and a half sterling season's as a work horse and Christie (who was signed for just that eventuality) has already broken down; instead of this interminable and excruciating claptrap! Is THIS genuinely the talking point of the moment as the season reaches a climax? What's Richard Logan's current situation? |
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Post by gullsdiv2 on Mar 8, 2009 21:05:08 GMT
For some strange reason the rules regarding bottle tops dont apply to the stewards, or they just ignor them. good point, however this has been answered in an earlier posting, whilst a supporter, and i also class myself in this bracket, moves to the stands, stands or sits in one place, and may not move for the duration, we as stewards and especially myself, move around the stands to do our respective duties, i however whole heartedly agree with what may seem like one rule for them and one for us, but my response to this is if i had to run from one end of the pop stand to the other to deal with a situation, and you got splashed with coke all over your new TUFC shirt, you'd go ape, whilst you can quite freely get a drink either a bottle or a cuppa, we as stewards can't just walk away from our respective positions. surely this is an obvious reason, however if all the stewards were to congregate by the tea stand, not stand in position, not deal with smoking in the stands( yes people still light up), not deal with the c song issue, and not keep safety zones clear as is needed under HSE regs, or not to go about our duties as issued in the team briefings pre match, and just turn up to drink tea and coke, or even better not turn up and stay at home and get TUFC to pay for us to sit in the warm, maybe and only maybe that would please everyone, however we all know that is not going to happen and i for one, would miss the pop side, i am endeavoring to form a common ground meeting place via this forum for us to address issues and problems, and if i do not know the answers i will find out an answer, steve004 why do stewards have to have a drink while working anyway? when i work i don't take tea breaks untill my lunch break as it's working time not leisure time. If stewards were not to drink we wouldn't be having this argument. |
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Post by khilllegend on Mar 8, 2009 21:08:39 GMT
good question?
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Post by Dave on Mar 8, 2009 21:11:07 GMT
Merse six of your last ten posts has been made today on this thread, so if you wanted to talk about who Bucks should sign now Sills is injured, you could have not posted on this thread and started one on what you would have liked to have talked about.
This thread is about issues concerning fans and Steve is here to try and answer them, you do not need to view this thread if it is not to your liking. The forum is here to discuss our club and that could mean team talk, match talk and even about the stewards. it is also a forum where other subjects can be discussed and even you have treated us to such riveting subjects such has horse racing, chill out a bit merse and except that others may wish to discuss things that you may find just boring.
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Post by yellowstew on Mar 9, 2009 3:49:06 GMT
If people are that desperate for a lid for their bottle do what I used to do up at ex*ter take your own bottle top in . As long as you are responsble with it are the stewards going to notice i think not , simple ? It is strange however given that when I went to the real St James Park for an England match and i sat in the top teir of that massive stand no one had tops removed from their coca-cola
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Post by steve2009 on Mar 13, 2009 18:08:30 GMT
good evening,
been a quiet week, on the forum, so just wanted to say, i'll see you all at Plainmoor, tomorrow afternoon.
i have not had any feedback from the question i have asked as pf yet, however i'll do my best to get some answers tomorrow
steve004
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2009 18:56:36 GMT
Steve its only been quite on this thread, thats because you have done a good job and answered most of the questions to everyones satisfaction. |
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Post by gullsdiv2 on Mar 14, 2009 18:23:03 GMT
my question 6 posts up has still not been answered?
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Post by aussie on Mar 14, 2009 18:54:50 GMT
Steve 004 said he has to take in fluids due to medical reasons, why shouldn`t stewards be allowed a bottle of drink with a lid on anyway? The whole reason fans can`t, with out medical reasons, is because there has been incedents in the past were missiles have been thrown by FANS not stewards! Next you`ll be wanting the players sports bottles to have there lids removed, ludicrous!!! I`m quite sure Steve 004 will come on here and clarify everything for you.
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Post by steve2009 on Mar 15, 2009 19:23:19 GMT
Steve 004 said he has to take in fluids due to medical reasons, why shouldn`t stewards be allowed a bottle of drink with a lid on anyway? The whole reason fans can`t, with out medical reasons, is because there has been incidents in the past were missiles have been thrown by FANS not stewards! Next you`ll be wanting the players sports bottles to have there lids removed, ludicrous!!! I`m quite sure Steve 004 will come on here and clarify everything for you. good evening, few points to make, firstly many thanks to aussie, very genuine supporter, and due to the forum I'm sure a good future friendship will ensue away from Plainmoor and the forum, remind me next game to let you have my personal mobile number Aussie. daveR, it's my birthday today Dave, 21 again lol, your last message really made my birthday, thanks, missed your presence yesterday, bur hope to catch you on the 24th. I would like to say thanks to all of you that have approached me and said hi, at Plainmoor, it makes a real difference when people actually make the effort, and it's a really good feeling when I'm spoken to, loads of supporters are now saying hi Steve, it's good to know, that through my efforts and your feedback, this positive attitude has come through.. good effort and a big thank you to you all. Steve004 |
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Post by steve2009 on Mar 15, 2009 19:45:27 GMT
my question 6 posts up has still not been answered? good evening gullsdiv2, i have always approached this forum from the start, with the view and i have stated this, if i do not know the reason for any point raised, i will endeavour to find the answer to draw a satisfactory solution to the question or the point raised. at yesterdays game 14/03/09, i asked the safety officer, why at Plainmoor it was deemed necessary to remove the bottle tops, as a member on the forum had stated, he has been to bigger grounds and clubs and had been allowed to retain his top. in response to your question, and another statement also on this forum with reference throwing of bottles at Plainmoor. TUFC implemented this FA ground rule, after 2 TUFC fans had thrown bottles at players at an away match, 2/3 seasons ago, i will endeavour to find out which match if you need me to. however this is the reason behind it. with reference stewards having a bottle with a top, and also, why do stewards need to have a drink. and i am trying to answer this without creating a you and us situation and also attempting to do so without causing offence to anyone. i for one, have suffered in the past, with kidney stones, if anyone has ever had this, you will know how painful and debilitating this is, so i for one do need regular fluid intake, however i personally do not like fizzy drinks, but my wife does call me a teapot, lol, however when the warmer weather arrives, you may well see me with a bottle of water. i accept that most of you on here will understand this situation. as Aussie has also stated, is a steward likely to throw anything at a player, i think not!!!!!!! hope this will clarify this to you gullsdiv2 Steve004 |
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