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Post by merse on Feb 3, 2009 19:18:26 GMT
 This "decision" wreaks of the weak and amateur nature of BSP administration when it comes to applying it's legislature to football matters. Weymouth are a supposed full time professional football club, and it was their duty to ensure they are in place in the town of the fixture and to that end should have travelled yesterday BEFORE the bad weather set in. That way the onus would have been on OUR club to make an early decision as to the pitch fitness, and therefore the liklihood of the game being able to be staged. Should Weymouth have turned out to have made those arrangements in vain the costs would be recoverable from the gate receipts. This is normal football practice, it would have been US bearing the brunt of the costs. It's obvious from their current predicament that Weymouth FC can't run a piss up in brewery, and OUR club should be claiming the points for failure to fulfill a fixture plus costs for all the wasted expenses incurred. If our club can travel overnight to Lewes in a professional manner then Weymouth can for this game, if they can't manage that then they should not be in a full time professional league and should be operating in something like the Wessex League more befitting their limitations. As for "considering the travelling support", will the BSP agree to call off the game at Barrow on Saturday if I cannot manage to get there due to inclement weather? and the piss poor levels of away support we see at Plainmoor from most opposing clubs makes this a laughable excuse anyway. The police and their influence is a matter of very real concern to me when it comes to the Westcountry.................only recently they were throwing their weight around telling the three nearest pubs to Plainmoor to shut down for the period immediately before the Coventry match whilst Boots was permitted to stay open. Why is this? Is it because they cannot perform the very basic function of a police force and stick a copper on the door of each of those pubs - pubs who have seen their only chance of a decent trading period snatched from them in the notoriously poor after Christmas time? The police are their to serve the public, not vice versa and the locals down there want to deal with this naziism from a country bumpkin collection of plods who wouldn't know how to deal with civil disobedience if it came up and bit them on the arse. "Police advice" not to travel, my arse; are Weymouth sure it wasn't another case of the coach company demanding their money BEFORE they laid on a coach and hey, so what if they do? Couldn't Weymouth travel in cars? A very sad day for professional football in my opinion.
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Post by aussie on Feb 3, 2009 19:20:57 GMT
Just driving from Exeter to Torquay this afternoon when it was at its best I drove past three crashes, one of which was at the top of Halden Hill Exeter bound, 4by4s a lorry and a car looked like they were involved, god knows what it would be like tonight after 10 o`clock. How often does this happen? Maybe once in every ten,fifteen years, doesn`t justify the expense of spending multi-millions on a situation that can be dealt with with common sense, only make essential journeys!
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Post by atheringtongull on Feb 3, 2009 19:25:30 GMT
I live on the roads and I can tell you while things may not have been to bad where you were, up in North Devon driving was as dangerous as I have even known, quote] Having lived in N Devon for 40 years, think it's the second worst I have known. We had several inches of snow in a very short time this morning. 1978 was the worst when my village and others were cut off for a whole week. Even so, I had planned to come down tonight. What annoyed me most was I had checked the web site which said the game was on and purely by chance was looking at the teletext to see what other games were off and there was Torquay P. I could have quite easily have driven all the way down to find the game was off. Perhaps Mr Lee should have given a bit more thought to potential problems before announcing the game was on. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 3, 2009 19:26:23 GMT
Merse why should a football match be any different? lots of events get called of due to safety issues and our police are fine, not the mob handed ones you may find in Cities and talking about Cities I heard one could not cope with a bit of snow and had to shut the WHOLE transport system down.
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Post by atheringtongull on Feb 3, 2009 19:30:26 GMT
Perhaps Arsenal should have got the snow ploughs into the Emirates to clear the snow for tonight. How stupid of Merse to say Weymouth should have travelled yesterday! Didn't you notice most of the South was at a standstill? My only complaint about the decision was that Lee should have given more thought to the potential conditions before saying the game was on
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Post by merse on Feb 3, 2009 19:31:02 GMT
England is pathetic for so many reasons jm not just because they can't cope with a bit of dodgy weather. So by your reckoning, I assume you wrote to your local paper complaining that Thailand did not have a high enough sea wall in place to prevent all that damage from the Tsunami?  |
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Post by Dave on Feb 3, 2009 19:34:36 GMT
England is pathetic for so many reasons jm not just because they can't cope with a bit of dodgy weather. So by your reckoning, I assume you wrote to your local paper complaining that Thailand did not have a high enough sea wall in place to prevent all that damage from the Tsunami? I think that is way out of order Merse, no one could have stopped that tragic event happening and how many people lost their lives, if you were trying to be funny it was in very poor taste. |
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Post by aussie on Feb 3, 2009 19:40:57 GMT
Merse has some good points BUT the anti-westcountry shit is starting to bore me. The Arse-and-all game was called off in "The Mighty London" because of health and safety issues with traveling support! Smacks of hypocrisy to me!
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Post by petejones on Feb 3, 2009 19:42:16 GMT
Yep...for the first time, I'm genuinely shocked and offended by something Merse has written. Before we get into some pseudo postmodern debate about what was meant by those words and what should be taken lightly and what not, can we just remove the post?
Beyond distasteful, and it exhibits an ignorance (of events, of tact, of understanding, a lack of humour...everything, really) that I would never have attributed to a usually interesting and reasonable poster...
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Post by merse on Feb 3, 2009 19:42:52 GMT
Perhaps Arsenal should have got the snow ploughs into the Emirates to clear the snow for tonight. How stupid of Merse to say Weymouth should have travelled yesterday! There's no problem with access to the Emirates tonight, there's no snow on the pitch which is heated, or in the spectator areas - the game was called off because of a decision to consider eleven thousand Cardiff fans coming along the motorway system, not a few car loads of Weymouth supporters who's journey (like yours) is not one of necessity but one of choice. Why is travelling overnight stupid? If OUR club can do the same to avoid traffic congestion as for Lewes, then Weymouth could and should have the same arrangements in place to avoid precisely what has happened tonight. |
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Post by midlandstufc on Feb 3, 2009 19:44:57 GMT
Don't think Merse was trying to be funny but pointing out the iniquities of the arguments.
I think what he says about the opposition and the police is quite correct.
I've very rarely heard of a match being called off for travelling conditions when the pitch is fine.
It's like all the news stories of woe is us and worst snow for 18 years - complete baloney! So some Cockneys have been discomfited by a bit of the white stuff. The rest of the country think it's been quite mild! My local council (bless 'em - not!) have managed to get the gritters out and I've got to work despite the 4 inches, what's wrong with the richer Councils back in England's finest region? (not the South East but the Westcountry obviously).
Lovely snowman on another thread by the way. Would have done one myself but the kids are too old and wouldn't let me - besides it's feckin freezin out there!
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Post by Dave on Feb 3, 2009 19:46:26 GMT
Yep...for the first time, I'm genuinely shocked and offended by something Merse has written. Before we get into some pseudo postmodern debate about what was meant by those words and what should be taken lightly and what not, can we just remove the post? Beyond distasteful, and it exhibits an ignorance (of events, of tact, of understanding, a lack of humour...everything, really) that I would never have attributed to a usually interesting and reasonable poster... In the first instance Peter I will give merse the opportunity to look at his post again and see if he feels he should reword it. Dave R |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 19:50:07 GMT
There's lots of sense in Dave's posting. I was working in Taunton today and people from the Yeovil area were getting "come home straight away" phone calls from early afternoon. It's worth remembering all roads to and from Weymouth cross high ground and there's nothing quite of the standard of the A380 to get you over the downs. The reasons for Exeter's postponement are also worth noting so we're not alone.
Apparently the game has now been re-arranged for next Tuesday. But will Weymouth still be around? The Non League Paper ran one of its periodic Last Chance for Terras stories this weekend. The latest is that the deal we discussed recently has collapsed due to chairman Malcolm Curtis changing his mind about the £125,000 he'd promised. Potential buyers Lee Power (once chair of Cambridge, more recently Rushden - and a horse racing man and ex-footballer to boot) and Colin Hill (formerly associated with Essex club Heybridge Swifts and brother of Garry Hill) are expected to start due diligence shortly. Chief executive Gary Calder looks like going to Cambridge so maybe there'll be nobody left to pay the coach company even on a good day.
And the situation at Dorchester goes from bad to worse...
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Post by aussie on Feb 3, 2009 19:52:16 GMT
Good call Dave R, I think he has some very good points in there but a slieght rewording would make it a great post!
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Post by merse on Feb 3, 2009 19:55:42 GMT
Yep...for the first time, I'm genuinely shocked and offended by something Merse has written. Before we get into some pseudo postmodern debate about what was meant by those words and what should be taken lightly and what not, can we just remove the post? Distasteful? I wasn't suggesting a sea wall should have been built, I was using the ridiculous notion as a response to Dave Shaw's totally ga ga point made from so far away. Stop being so precious and self righteous. I'm seriously facing up to the decision of cancelling our overnight trip and hotel for the Barrow game on Saturday even though the liklihood of snow or frost in Barrow on the coast is minimal. I'm not about to risk life and limb of myself or my travelling companions for that, but I wouldn't expect the game to be called off just because of that. I shall expect OUR club to get itself up there in a professional manner and fulfill the fixture as befits a professional football club. Can you remember when OUR club played those "Beat The Freeze" games with Forest and Birmingham in the past? They weren't called off for such short sighted and unprofessional reasons! |
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