European Union: In or Out ?

I knew what I was voting for...I wanted to leave/getout/fuckoff/depart from the basket case that is the EU!! Sadly, the person leading the negotiations to help us leave/get us out/f**k us off/get our arses departed...hasn't got a bloody clue! 

With our politicians having been telling us, parrot fashion, for decades: 'It's imposed on us from Brussels, so it just has to be accepted'  the British public resigned themselves to madcap E.U doctrines and the crushing weight of masses of regulation.

If we did ever effectively free ourselves, I wonder if the greater responsibility would concentrate the mind, and we'd bin the incompetents currently sat on the benches of Parliament and insist on some anti-madcap representatives instead? Or would we ramp it up to madcap warp factor 6, by trying something like Prime Minister Corbyn for instance, knowing that after getting that bit of silliness out of our systems, and with the power now fully back with us, we could call a halt and elect someone sensible before Jezza wreaked total destruction in a second term?


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I so want to agree with you Reg, but I can't convince myself that this is genuine incompetence that we're seeing exhibited at such a catastrophic level.

All the finest pro-E.U brains will have worked on the best approach to smashing Brexit. The option of declaring 'You voted the wrong way, so we're ignoring the result', however much they would have liked it, has had to make way for a more practical solution to neutering Brexit. The British Government and the E.U have probably agreed the pathway to a meaningless Brexit. It'll need to be gradually implemented though. We're currently at the 'Look at how rubbish Brexit would actually be' stage. Pro E.U Prime Minister, pro E.U Chancellor, Pro E.U State broadcaster,all helping to lay the groundwork. Camouflaged by a veil of fake incompetence to disguise their plan.

A couple of things I read yesterday:






And you don't need me to tell you, Reg, that there is no one more fanatical about the E.U that a Liberal Democrat. Even old Cable starts frothing at the mouth at the mere mention of the word 'Brexit'. And so how big a surprise is it to learn that Airbus's Director Of Communications and Government Affairs used to work for LibDem peer, Tom MacNally, that she's attended and spoken at pro E.U public meetings with LibDem MEP Graham Watson since as far back as 2013, and also that Airbus's Publicity Manager was a Gloucestershire County Councillor for the LibDems !

E.U fanatics the lot of them, and only too happy to conspire with Hammond and Tezza by helping the BBC weaken Britain's position in the eyes of the public, in readiness for the next capitulation to Junker & Co.






Can it really be a never ending tale of massive incompetence?, or is it actually all a charade, with Barnier, our E.U loving Government, and the recipient of substantial E.U handouts, the BBC , all working hand in hand to con the public and demoralise us sufficiently so that we'll eventually have to swallow the worse than useless 'deal' Tezza is planning to put before us. Are they hopeless and incompetent almost beyond belief....or do they very much know what they're doing? 

Even our friends across the pond can see what a disaster would happen if Corbett were to get into power! Yes, I know it's difficult to believe, with our Theresa making such a concerted effort to bring this country to it's knees , that any one could do a worse job of it!


It seems that the 'Special Relationship' could be in danger though! Trump  has said, that if we don't beef up our military, the SR is over! The British Defence Secretary has come out with all guns blazing, and told Putin to wind his neck in, or he will put 'Blow-Up Tanks' all along the Russian border!!! Yes, that's true folks! 



Putin was seen yesterday on the Russian version of 'Dragons Den!' Trying to get money for a new company which sold 'Bouncy Castles'...in the shape of... 'Blow-Up Tanks!' 
 

I must admit, that I never thought anyone other than myself, would be talking about the Buddhist concept of 'Emptiness' on this site! We'll make a Buddhist of you yet AJ!

I think you might be slightly wide of the mark though, when you say our Theresa is becoming a Buddhist. I took Buddhist Lay-Vows some years ago, and I'm sure I would have remembered, if one of them had been: 'Thou shalt shaft Seventeen Million (and some) people!' Which seems to be her mantra! 


Hopefully, the 'Brexiteers'...(love that word) will rise up this week (as they have threatened) and give her a good shafting...perish the thought!  

Alpinejoe 


Things are moving quickly, and by late afternoon (5.19pm) Andrew Neil is now suggesting that it'll be a case of except Tezza's bad deal 'Brexit Lite' dogs breakfast....or stay in the E.U !!  The Referendum more and more appearing to have been an utterly pointless exercise, as the Establishment had no intention of abiding by the electorate's decision if it was deemed to be the 'wrong' one.

The forum’s right wing pro-Brexit contingent moaning about Brexit again.

And still they moan.