European Union: In or Out ?

I think we have to look at the bigger picture here, and you don’t have much of a bigger picture than Churchill. Would Churchill actually have made that gesture?

As has been said already (to which I agree) Churchill is/was a national hero, and a great leader in time of war. Imagine if May had been in charge, we would have lasted about a week!

With what has happened to this country since joining Europe, I think we can safely say he would. 

Oh, and before anyone says I’m just agreeing with AJ on this, you’re wrong. I’m not right wing (whatever that is anyway) I’m more Silly Mid Off! 

OK, I'll throw my two penneth in ... as the sun is shining and I'm in a good mood .... keenly expecting an away win 


plainmoorpete 


While Pete expresses the opinion that Churchill is regarded as a national hero by people of all persuasions, therefore both those on a ‘Leave’ or ‘Remain’ side equally, the speed with which Stefano was out of the blocks trying to claim Winston as an avid Remainer doesn’t seem to bother him anywhere near as much as the knowledge that some on Leave side have also tried to associate Churchill with their point of view.

Of course I might be misunderstanding, and Pete’s observation that ‘it is regrettable that there are some who would wish to claim him for their own narrow agenda’ could be a rebuke to Stefano and his audacious attempt to set up Churchill as a totem for modern day Remainers ...oops I mean ‘Rejoiners’ to rally around, it could be emphasising that the ‘Leave’ cause attracted the more widespread support (as evidenced by the actual Referendum result) and is therefore categorising Remain as the more ‘narrow agenda’ ?

That we start off the new year, by learning that Churchill, a man who loved to throw around an insult himself, would be insulted by his image appearing on a badge with the innocuous words ’Bye bye EU’ on it, may indicate that 2021 is already gearing up to see the ‘Offence card’ being played more regularly than ever before … and it’ll have to go some to beat 2020 !

There’s others to blame, but that’s not a bad start. We had to compromise in negotiations as that’s how they work. Johnson had his pants down by the end.

Was always going to be the case, despite promises about ‘easiest deal in history’, Gove’s ‘we hold all the cards’ and other such assorted bullshit pre-plebiscite that you’d find echoed by your rag of choice.

So people are angry that Boris sold them out and got a very bad deal and capitulated on all his red lines. But he was a figure head and key member of the leave camp he was their only chance of leaving the EU with such a great deal (so we had been told).

People also angry that Boris has ballsed up the handling of Covid-19 in this country and feeding school kids and generally running the country.

As so many leavers keep saying to remainers 'if you dont like it then live somewhere else' wht cant leavers take their own advise........just not in the EU as fom has gone now so its not as easy.

Remoaners moaning? About what was voted for and what was delivered?

Do you included all the fishermen?

And there it is for all to see why people who use the phrase 'remoaners' get so upset.

Brexiteers promised something where is it? Shall we ask the fishermen?

Did you just call people on here sheep or thick? Im not sure which but it wasnt very nice

French elections today, and if the woman gets in, that’s the end of the Basket Case…or as a few people prefer to call it…the EU! 🧺