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Post by stig123 on Jan 2, 2019 16:47:56 GMT
Sounds like good deal for Exeter. Bit surprised no offers for Jamie Reid.
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Post by Rob on Jan 2, 2019 16:55:11 GMT
Sounds like good deal for Exeter. Bit surprised no offers for Jamie Reid. Not that we know of yet. But our front three presently won’t have gone unnoticed by other clubs above our level. Hope we can keep them all for the promotion push this season. |
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Jan 3, 2019 17:30:56 GMT
I agree with you AJ, but its a policy that must drive their supporters crazy. Off the top of my head; Friend, Nicholls, Grimes, Ampadu and now Stockley have all been sold for substantial fees and on each occasion the club have pocketed he cash. Last seasons activity alone - Income £2.29m / Expenditures £97k - Total results +£2.19m Do they need to do this at least once every few years to survive? I'm guessing as they have to rely on living within their income, this helps ensure the club is on a sound financial footing and self sustaining? It's not ideal from a fans point of view (probably) but should mean the club shouldnt be struggling for a cash injection should crowds drop? |
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 4, 2019 8:15:01 GMT
Sell Stockley for a Million and buy Bowman for Hundred grand max! Are they skint again? Don't believe so. Clubs have triggered his release clause - Preston are one of them. Signs for Preston NE - £750,000 - tidy £650,000 profit! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46747877 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 13:51:26 GMT
Keyberrygull
I think the vote held by Exeter Supporters Trust members to serve notice on Tisdale that his contract would not be automatically renewed, indicates that there are many fans who prefer to shoot the messenger rather than accept the reality of the message. My personal view is that Exeter's potential to achieve so much more with a coach of Tisdale's ability in charge, had to be sacrificed because they are hidebound by their ownership model.
Exeter do OK, and will at least hopefully tick along, as Matt Taylor looks to be a capable coach. But the restrictions of their ownership model were sufficiently great to negate the brilliance of Tisdale. Given the longer term foundations that Tisdale has carefully laid, and now with his prodigy Taylor nurturing things, they should be able to keep the 'sell to survive policy' going for the time being. But if it stutters, I fully expect the finger to be pointed at Taylor,rather than looking at other factors that hold them back.
While on Trustwatch duties I read the speech given by Exeter City's chairman, Julian Tagg to their Supporters Trust, back at the end of October, which I've managed to track down again. Some of his comments deal directly with the questions you ask. Here's a little selection of what he said, including a point or two of general interest:
With no blueprint to guide us, and with two out of the four trust-owned clubs currently up for sale because they cannot see a way forward through their own model, the necessity for our two boards to find a cohesive and dynamic approach to the significant challenges our club and our model faces daily is imperative.
Last season, lest we should forget, produced a long-awaited run of magnificent home form ending with a tremendous victory over Lincoln City, but a disappointment at our second home in London. It also saw the development and sale of Ethan Ampadu and Ollie Watkins, departure of a young Jordan Storey and a sale of David Wheeler. Those elements alone, by any club’s standard are a pretty impressive season and all involved, from the Academy’s youth production line, to the Board, for sanctioning a spend of £100k to obtain Jayden Stockley, to the manager of the time and his staff, all deserve tremendous credit.
In terms of the production line it is and has passed any possible expectations, but we are not churning out sausages here. There will absolutely and inevitably be periods of fortune and famine. It’s not a conveyor belt, often the success comes, as recently, like buses all at once, then there are periods where you stand in the cold and rain often for some time – 2013 to 2016 as an example. We continue to work ever harder to maintain the standards, many of which are ever increasing and statutory in order, to progress.
The information I am relaying now is no different from that delivered last year. It is human nature to associate current success with recent actions and although it should be evident that the current plenty that props us up now is harvest from planting done many seasons ago some might believe otherwise. The question is what happens if, well actually when, that windfall does not repeat.
Examples of aggressive progression are all around us, underlined perhaps most recently by Salford, but also by so many others in our league, the league above us and of ever more concern, the league below us. The club was here long before any of us arrived, but now it is our responsibility and we must find a solution or, although it may sound melodramatic, if we don’t we fade and die.
The loans, which were placed 20 years ago are completely interest free. Recently on retirement Steve Perryman asked if his interest free £30k loan could be repaid. The club decided to buy, at par, Steve’s share. It also magnanimously asked if I would like my £15k bought out at the same time. I gratefully accepted and my £15k was returned. When I put it in to help the club in 1999 it would have paid for a deposit on a house, last year when I got it back its barely enough for a deposit on a new Range Rover !
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Post by Rob on Jan 6, 2019 21:04:27 GMT
Full 90 again for Brett Williams yesterday in another win for Sutton. Scored for them the other day against former club Aldershot.
Ampadu played his 10th match for Chelsea yesterday, which nets Exeter a further £250,000.
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Post by keyberrygull on Jan 6, 2019 21:22:13 GMT
Keyberrygull I think the vote held by Exeter Supporters Trust members to serve notice on Tisdale that his contract would not be automatically renewed, indicates that there are many fans who prefer to shoot the messenger rather than accept the reality of the message. My personal view is that Exeter's potential to achieve so much more with a coach of Tisdale's ability in charge, had to be sacrificed because they are hidebound by their ownership model. Exeter do OK, and will at least hopefully tick along, as Matt Taylor looks to be a capable coach. But the restrictions of their ownership model were sufficiently great to negate the brilliance of Tisdale. Given the longer term foundations that Tisdale has carefully laid, and now with his prodigy Taylor nurturing things, they should be able to keep the 'sell to survive policy' going for the time being. But if it stutters, I fully expect the finger to be pointed at Taylor,rather than looking at other factors that hold them back. While on Trustwatch duties I read the speech given by Exeter City's chairman, Julian Tagg to their Supporters Trust, back at the end of October, which I've managed to track down again. Some of his comments deal directly with the questions you ask. Here's a little selection of what he said, including a point or two of general interest: With no blueprint to guide us, and with two out of the four trust-owned clubs currently up for sale because they cannot see a way forward through their own model, the necessity for our two boards to find a cohesive and dynamic approach to the significant challenges our club and our model faces daily is imperative.
Last season, lest we should forget, produced a long-awaited run of magnificent home form ending with a tremendous victory over Lincoln City, but a disappointment at our second home in London. It also saw the development and sale of Ethan Ampadu and Ollie Watkins, departure of a young Jordan Storey and a sale of David Wheeler. Those elements alone, by any club’s standard are a pretty impressive season and all involved, from the Academy’s youth production line, to the Board, for sanctioning a spend of £100k to obtain Jayden Stockley, to the manager of the time and his staff, all deserve tremendous credit.
In terms of the production line it is and has passed any possible expectations, but we are not churning out sausages here. There will absolutely and inevitably be periods of fortune and famine. It’s not a conveyor belt, often the success comes, as recently, like buses all at once, then there are periods where you stand in the cold and rain often for some time – 2013 to 2016 as an example. We continue to work ever harder to maintain the standards, many of which are ever increasing and statutory in order, to progress.
The information I am relaying now is no different from that delivered last year. It is human nature to associate current success with recent actions and although it should be evident that the current plenty that props us up now is harvest from planting done many seasons ago some might believe otherwise. The question is what happens if, well actually when, that windfall does not repeat.
Examples of aggressive progression are all around us, underlined perhaps most recently by Salford, but also by so many others in our league, the league above us and of ever more concern, the league below us. The club was here long before any of us arrived, but now it is our responsibility and we must find a solution or, although it may sound melodramatic, if we don’t we fade and die.
The loans, which were placed 20 years ago are completely interest free. Recently on retirement Steve Perryman asked if his interest free £30k loan could be repaid. The club decided to buy, at par, Steve’s share. It also magnanimously asked if I would like my £15k bought out at the same time. I gratefully accepted and my £15k was returned. When I put it in to help the club in 1999 it would have paid for a deposit on a house, last year when I got it back its barely enough for a deposit on a new Range Rover !
AJ, These cash windfalls acquired due to young players moving on is just reward for having a strategy in place and maintaining its high standards. Having effectively started from scratch what they achieved both on and off the field should be admired. But just how heavily involved with the day to day running of the youth set up were Tisdale and Perryman, and will the new management team be able to emulate previous success stories. |
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Post by Rob on Jan 6, 2019 22:00:09 GMT
Forgot to mention, but they also get £250k slices every further 10 games for Ampadu for a while, as well.
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Post by Rob on Jan 6, 2019 22:09:04 GMT
Shaquille Coulthirst penalty for Barnet knocking Sheffield United out of the Cup earlier.
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Post by stig123 on Feb 16, 2019 17:43:40 GMT
Butler and Labadie both playing for Newport in FA Cup against Man City.
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Post by chelstongull on Jun 26, 2019 10:34:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 14:55:59 GMT
BB@BBWhere was he on Saturday ? If it's Billy Bodin you're inquiring about, then the answer is sunny Bamber Bridge. An inauspicious venue perhaps, but for King Billy who missed the whole of last season due to a cruciate ligament injury that he picked up in pre season last year, it was just good to get a pair of football boots back on and get 45 minutes under his belt.  King Billy who left Paolo Di Canio's Swindon Town to join the Ling revolution at Plainmoor, had a very bright future ahead of him. Then disaster struck for both Billy and Torquay United as Alan Knill was appointed Manager. It's arguable whether either Billy or the club itself has ever fully recovered. Billy was lucky enough to escape and join up with one of the Gulls most legendary ever players, Cap'n Manse himself, midfield general, Wembley hero, and inspirational leader. With the great Cap'n spearheading the Bristol Rovers revival, Billy was able to regain his confidence and re-find his shooting boots, becoming, according to one statistic I remember reading, League One's top goalscorer in a particular calendar year in the not too distant past. Championship level, and a few Welsh caps under his belt, but how much more could have been achieved had 'the Ling replacement' not had to be endured by one of the most exciting prospects we'd seen at Plainmoor ? It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Preston fans have already acclaimed Billy as the greatest talent to pull on the white shirt since Sir Tom Finney himself, and that makes it all the more poignant that Billy made his long awaited comeback at 'The Sir Tom Finney Stadium', which Bamber Bridge FC renamed their ground in 2014, the year of Sir Tom's death. A two nil win for Billy and his Preston teammates, in front of a very reasonable 2000 crowd.  Above - The talented feet of King Billy weave the old magic.  Above - A sunny Saturday afternoon in Bamber Bridge. Just imagine what those houses must be worth. Providing a regular great view of Northern Premier League football from the upstairs windows, as well as the sight of visiting Soccer Superstars such as Billy Bodin on an all too rare visit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:34:36 GMT
But the thread title asks 'where are they now ?', and not last Saturday. And everything points to Billy being with his team at their training camp on Fota Island. My guess was that meant somewhere in the caribbean.....any my CSE geography qualification hasn't equipped me to know any better. With the help of Google, I now learn it's in no more exotic location than plonked in Cork Harbour, Ireland. However, Billy does have a choice of swimming pools, a nice golf course, and all sorts of other facilities to enjoy. While Torbay Local Authority would probably convert the place into a landfill site, it looks pleasant enough the way the Irish currently have it.   and there's a match tonight !  |
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Post by Rob on Jul 8, 2019 16:06:03 GMT
That aerial picture of the island. What a great place for a training camp.
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Post by simonb on Jul 8, 2019 16:11:57 GMT
What about Thatcher Rock?!
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