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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jan 16, 2010 21:08:41 GMT
Was Tyrone Thompson injured today? I was surprised that Nicho was on the bench today - I figured that his potential move to Stevenage would have meant that he sat it out.
Although I wasn't at the game today I'm not overly surprised at the defeat - and equaly I'm not that concerned. I believe that we will close the transfer window with a stronger squad of players than we opened it with. I think that the next few days will see some interesting arrivals............
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Post by stuartB on Jan 16, 2010 21:11:38 GMT
love Hargreaves picture. Is the opposition player trying to get a foot up ;D
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Post by Dave on Jan 16, 2010 21:15:24 GMT
love Hargreaves picture. Is the opposition player trying to get a foot up ;D Need to say thanks to Darryl for sending the pictures to the TFF, what surprises me in so many match pictures we have on the forum, is how many times you see players with their eyes closed, or is just with the fast shutter speeds used, they have been caught blinking?
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Post by jond on Jan 16, 2010 21:45:52 GMT
Good performance today and definitely deserved at least a draw. In the second half in particular we created so many good situations but had one cleared off the line, one saved brilliantly by their keeper, hit the post, and twice we got to the by line only to knock the ball out with players waiting in the middle. Worst of all was the disallowed goal..I couldn't see how Thomson could be offside (but it was at the other end) when the Chesterfield player deflected the ball into his path.
The back four were as solid today as they were sloppy at Accrington. Robbo and Charnock in particular dealt with everything superbly and Adam Smith was possibly our best player in the second half going forward.
The one misfit was Rendell. He looked a non league player, no pace, no touch. I can only imagine that Zebs was the one subbed due to injury/illness.
If we play like this for the rest of the season we'll be more than OK.
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Post by Rob on Jan 16, 2010 21:52:12 GMT
ohtobe - My understanding is that Thompson was poorly due to some bug. I asked the question elsewhere wondering if there was anything more to read into it. Frankly, if we do get another midfielder - although Bucks was talking striker and defender when interviewed earlier - getting Thompson out on loan/sold might as well happen given Kane-O plays centre and on the wings.
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Post by adamcfc on Jan 16, 2010 21:59:09 GMT
Did Eunan have enough time to impress? I gather he got 5 minutes or so at the end?
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Post by Rob on Jan 16, 2010 22:05:04 GMT
Did Eunan have enough time to impress? I gather he got 5 minutes or so at the end? Reports elsewhere suggest he looked comfortable, showing some neat touches and managed in the short time he was on, to spray a delightful 40 yard cross ball to feet. It'll certainly do for starters, Adam.
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Post by chrish on Jan 16, 2010 23:24:05 GMT
Well, another trip up to the bleak north midlands and yet more disappointment. I was in two minds to go or not because of the weather and because of the state of the pitch. Still it's only a 2 hour 10 minute journey up the motorway, which coincidently is quicker than the train and costs me less in petrol even with my railway discount on a standard open return. I had a couple of reserve games just in case of a late postponement. Sheffield United V Middlesbrough looked the most likely. I got to Chesterfield quite early after passing through a daft roundabout system and the famous crooked spire. Apparently it was built just 12 years after the Black Death and the crookedness is down to fact that there was a shortage of skilled craftsmen. It's quite a pleasant town really. The town centre is full of beam fronted buildings. I parked opposite the Town Hall a few minutes walk from the ground and had a couple of pints of Youngers Bitter in a pub called The Industry a two minute walk from the away end. I then headed to the ground and paid my 16 quid. Saltergate is a bit of a mess really. Uttertly unique and rather quaint but it's a real old school ground that's probably hardly changed since the 1960s. The stewards were extremely friendly and jovial. During the usual search of the bags one steward made light of the situation by asking us if we were carrying any bombs or hand grenades. Not the usual humourless gits you normally get doing that job. We were told that the open terrace wasn't going to be open, but I was surprised to see wooden benches. That's a first for me at a football match I have to say. The view wasn't too bad apart from a supporting pillar which was as irritating as much or as little as you wanted to make it. The game kicked off. We started quite brightly. Wroe, Rendell and Zebroski linked up well but either the final ball was lacking or the wrong run was made at the wrong time. We continued to look the more potent side especially the pace of Zebroski worrying their ex Welsh International Robert Page, who seems to be continuing the Chesterfield traditional of fielding a big ugly bald centre half after replacing Steve Blatherwick, who was ugly baldy supreme at Saltergate for a while. Then a cross from Wroe found Rendell who pulled away from his marker got in a decent header which caught the inside of the post and then went across the whole goal with home goalkeeper Tommy Lee completely helpless. We should've scored. Then a clever run from Rendell caught the whole Chesterfield back line napping but as he delayed the cross for the supporting Zebroski and Thomson he seemed to be caught in two minds before knocking in a truly awful ball that only found grass on the other side of the penalty area. They had a couple of chances. Conlon had a weak header saved by Poke and their two wingers Ian Morris (on loan from Scunthorpe) and Dominic Green (signed yesterday on loan from Peterborough) looked dangerous. Our wingers in comparison both had poor games I though. Carlisle had one of those games where nothing came off and the pitch seemed to negate the extra pace Thomson usually provides. Personally I would have swapped them around earlier than around the 80th minute when Eunan O'Kane replaced a recently booked and very angry Chris Hargreaves. The second half was a bit more even in terms of possesion and territory but we still posed the greater threat. Thomson seemed to beat the offside trap and scored with an excellent finish only to be ruled offside (see the third Pinnacle photo Dave posted). I have to say we were down the other end of the pitch but the ball seemed to take either a touch off their right back or it hit a bobble very near him. But the woman assistant referee gave it offside and that was that. Bloody women. I've always said they should have nothing to do with football apart from heat pies up, make hot drinks and wash the players kit. Just joking ladies. There's just as many blokes who know flip all about football! So Benyon on for Zebroski. For me he was the poorer out of the two forwards and the pitch seemed to rob him of the quick turns and quick changes in direction he normally makes. Rendell was the more reliable option but on came Benyon to some howls of derision and a few Buckle baiting comments. "How can you take off a striker who cost 25 grand?" was one comment. "Buckle you are f**king clueless" was another. These comments came from the same people who were on Rendell's back after the first heavy touch on a poor pitch. Sills would've got that, Sills would've crossed that one better. Bollocks. Sills would've have been 10 yards behind. Stuff like this really really pees me off. Why is it some people always need something to blame or think they know better than a professional football manager? It's my experience on days like today that the whole blame culture element just shoots itself in the foot with utterly stupid comments when there really is no one to blame apart we failed to score when handed 3 great chances. But we came bloody close. A hit post, a goal ruled out and then a fantastic reaction save from Tommy Lee saved them plus even a header off the line towards the end of the game. Yes its a game we should've won. We went the right way about it on a poor pitch and came very close to getting the win that we fully deserved. Maybe its me. Perhaps I don't get upset enough at football matches anymore but I fail to see how howling at the linesman, the ref, our own players or sticking two fingers up to Paul Buckle as he's walking off is really going to provide anything constructive. Neither is using Tim Sill's departure as a way of getting on Rendell's back. Move on. He's gone. He gave us great service but he doesn't play for us anymore. Now get behind Rendell, Buckle and the rest of the team. Man of the match for us was probably Adam Smith although I wouldn't argue with Chris Robertson or Kieran Charnock. Smith was excellent all game and showed more attacking threat than Thomson. I'm very glad he's on loan with us. Robertson must be the most improved player of the season so far and Charnock still looks like a quality signing. Eunan O'Kane came on with 10 minutes or so to go. Early days but he looks like he has a good first touch, ability on the ball, enough pace to beat an opponent and passes the ball quite well. Anyway a few pictures from today......... Plus idiots on the motorway who stick on the fog lights when visibility is still pretty good.
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Post by Dave on Jan 16, 2010 23:35:32 GMT
I'm sure glad you went Chris, great report and pictures and I looked at them before I read your report and was about to ask how come you managed to get the spire to look so crooked in your shot. I thought it was that new bargain camera you bought playing up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 23:41:03 GMT
Saltergate is a bit of a mess really. Uttertly unique and rather quaint but it's a real old school ground that's probably hardly changed since the 1960s. Yes, isn't Saltergate a wonderfully shambolic old place? Indeed, being roughed up into a "period piece" for the filming of the Damned United might have even improved it. And, of course, the utter greyness of today's weather - complete with fog-shrouded floodlights and piled snow around the surrounds - added to the old-time feel of the occasion (lacking, perhaps, only the whiff of Woodbines). By contrast, after looking at today's programme and a local map, I suspect that - next season - we might be discussing an identikit stadium along the lines of Shrewsbury (right down to convoluted walking and driving routes no doubt). Never mind, it's not too far out of town and Chesterfield will still be a worthwhile place to visit. The "Karen Child" Kop - apparently Karen Child is a local lottery winner who will also be sponsoring a stand at the new gaff. And, from today's programme, a feature on ex-Chesterfield player Martin Wright who briefly played for us in the 1970s. Apparently he was on holiday in Torquay when we tracked him down to his hotel and got him to sign for us. He says he didn't enjoy his time at Plainmoor and that "a lot of the players were ageing superstars" (really?). He's sixty this year and now works as warehouse manager. Maybe its me. Perhaps I don't get over enough at football matches anymore but I fail to see how howling at the linesman, the ref, our own players or sticking two fingers up to Paul Buckle as he's walking off is really going to provide anything constructive. No Chris, it's not just you. Some people might call it "passion" but it seems to me that getting over-upset, seeking a grievance and looking for scapegoats is an essential part of the "football experience" for a fair number of people. The football supporter's "blame culture" leaves me rather cold I'm afraid. Is that my profile you've caught in some of those splendid pictures?
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Post by chrish on Jan 16, 2010 23:58:33 GMT
Maybe its me. Perhaps I don't get over enough at football matches anymore but I fail to see how howling at the linesman, the ref, our own players or sticking two fingers up to Paul Buckle as he's walking off is really going to provide anything constructive. No Chris, it's not just you. Some people might call it "passion" but it seems to me that getting over-upset, seeking a grievance and looking for scapegoats is an essential part of the "football experience" for a fair number of people. The football supporter's "blame culture" leaves me rather cold I'm afraid. Is that my profile you've caught in some of those splendid pictures? I mean it's not as if I don't sometimes get upset at football matches and shout out things but this constant screaming and howling at marginal decisions or looking for any old scapegoat is really starting to get on my wick. Just watching Colchester V Norwich on the Football League Show. Today's pitch at Saltergate was a billiard table compared to this!!
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Post by Jon on Jan 17, 2010 10:33:14 GMT
He says he didn't enjoy his time at Plainmoor and that "a lot of the players were ageing superstars" (really?). He was behind Mike Trebilcock and Robin Stubbs in the strikers' pecking order.
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Post by chrish on Jan 17, 2010 12:32:22 GMT
I'm sure glad you went Chris, great report and pictures and I looked at them before I read your report and was about to ask how come you managed to get the spire to look so crooked in your shot. I thought it was that new bargain camera you bought playing up That'll be the Black Death Dave, not a cheap old Minolta off Ebay. I do like their Kop end though. Reminds me of the old Popside at Plainmoor before the latest glorified bus stop shelter. I wonder it's actually the largest terraced area left in British football or is Carlisle bigger? It's funny that the word "kop" is still used to describe steep terraced stands at Football Grounds. "Kop" is dutch word meaning "head" or "hill" but the usage over here comes from the Battle of the Spion Kop in Natal, South Africa during the Second Boer War. 30,000 British Troops their 36 field guns were defeated by 8,000 South African Republic Troops with 4 field guns and 2 Pom Pom guns, which incidently were considered by the British to be obsolete weapons. Just another page of history where numerically superior forces struggle like hell to fight uphill battles with an enemy who are well dug in and well prepared.
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Post by longeatongull on Jan 17, 2010 14:14:29 GMT
I'm sure glad you went Chris, great report and pictures and I looked at them before I read your report and was about to ask how come you managed to get the spire to look so crooked in your shot. I thought it was that new bargain camera you bought playing up Fantastic pictures and you captured the day really well-thanks. I dont know how you do it....it takes all my energy/brain power to concentrate on the game/day without the worry of having a "box brownie" around my neck ;D. Thanks again
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Post by longeatongull on Jan 17, 2010 14:18:20 GMT
I have just done a quick google and realise now that it looks like his girlfriend is the Blue Peter girl....so an afternoon with the stars!!!! wrong one. It's the David Graham who plays for Hamilton Thanks for that.....I was defo sat with the REAL David Graham though ;D. Its amazing it doesnt seem that long ago he left and he says there is nobody left on the staff from his time....quick turnover or what?
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