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Post by chelstongull on Nov 29, 2008 17:46:05 GMT
The performance today deserves a plum tie tomorrow - Man Utd (away).
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Post by Swanny on Nov 29, 2008 18:08:14 GMT
An outstanding battling performance full of guts and determination. Crowd 2,647, around 300 from Oxford, sponsors MOTM Bevan.
The first 20 minutes was really Oxford's and Bevan had to make 2 outstanding saves to keep the scores level. The first he timed to perfection to smother the ball when Oxford were clean through, the other tipping the ball away at full strectch. Oxford were playing some good stuff with 2 speedy wingers, and another clear attempt went wide. Torquay could not get going, Carayol wearing pink boots did little right and kept wasting his final ball. There was little bite in attack, so well done to Buckle for bringing on 2 goal Benyon for the ineffective Thompson after 30-odd minutes. It proved to be a masterstroke.
Torquay had not managed a single shot on goal. Then after 41 minutes a long throw by Nicholson was flicked on by Sills and Benyon, our fox-in-the-box, was there to stab home from short range. Then on the stroke of half-time the game turned on its head. Following a corner, Dsane allegedly hit out at Turley, Oxford's keeper. I am not quite sure what really happened but Dsane was sent off and Turley was booked and there was a right melee involving lots of players in the goalmouth. Then from Torquay's next corner, things again got heated and this time Hargreaves was booked. Half-time 1-0.
So Torquay had to protect their lead for the whole of the second half with 10 men. And what a great job they did. Carayol, this half wearing blue boots, swapped to the left wing where Dsane was playing, and Benyon helped out in right midfield as well as in attack. Tackles were flying in and it was a cracking cup tie. The home support, which had been vocal all game, spurred the team on and Plainmoor was "rocking". Torquay defended brilliantly and shut out Oxford, and Bevan again came to the rescue when needed. It was not a match for the faint hearted.
Then on 83 minutes a cross by Mansell, was flicked on by Hargreaves into of path of Benyon about 15 yards out. Benyon chested the ball, and acrobatically volleyed the ball into the top corner. A magnificent goal, the best I've seen for a long time and the sort only players like Davey Graham is capable of. It really had a "wow" factor about it.
Wild scenes at the end after the referee played about an extra 5 minutes. The team showed today outstanding spirit and character.
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Post by Dave on Nov 29, 2008 18:19:53 GMT
Not so much a match report, more my views and thoughts on the game. Plainmoor was a very cold place today, so glad I put on some extra layers of clothes, but the walk back to the car in the cold, did not seem to matter after today’s win.
I thought the first half an hour was poor, we just lumped it from the back, to where it was hoped a player was, rather than trying to look up and see where the ball needed to go. Carayol seemed to struggle to get into the game for a while, but then went on some good runs, only to fail to deliver any good balls into the box.
Dsane also never got going for me and I do wonder why Danny was not started, as he has been playing well in the games he has started lately. I do also question why Benyon did not start; it seems Bucks just wants to stick with Sills up front with Thompson playing behind. I felt at the last home game that Thompson had a very poor game and while he was a bit better today, I’m glad Bucks had the balls to change things around, with about 12 Min's to go. On came Benyon and off went Thompson and Benyon got himself straight into the game.
It was not long before Sills knocked down his header to Benyon, who hit a good shot into the net, as it turned out a few minutes later, a very good time to get a goal. Just after that I had one eye on the players in the box and the other one a group of Oxford fans, who were looking like they might kick off in the popside corner of the away stand. I looked back into the box; saw some pushing and then the Oxford keeper holding his face.
I could not believe it when Dsane was shown the red card and speaking to some who were up that end of the pitch, it seemed that it was not the correct decision. Still we had the lead and Oxford had not really troubled our defence that much.
The second half was what you would expect of a team playing with ten men. We were pinned back into our own half for most of it, but still gave Oxford few real chances to score a goal. We often had to just clear the ball up field to no one, but there were times it fell to Sills and we were able to still create the better chances.
Benyons second goal was a top draw one, great play out wide by Wroe and Mansell and a ball played in Benyon on the edge of the box, he hit high into the far corner a better goal you may not see this season. I said after our game against Newton in the preseason, that Benyon. Looked a different class, some felt I should not get carried away and should remember who the team we were playing against that day.
Well this young man knows where the goal is and unlike some strikers, he can finish and that is what I saw at the Newton game. I felt the ref was the worst I have seem for a long time, he got it wrong over Dsane and seemed to get so many other decisions wrong,
Very poor crowd, just over 2600, for a second round FA Cup, just what do our team need to do, to get the support it deserves. Singing was not up to much first half but was much better in the second half, until the same lot felt the need to start singing the F words. It got worse today as songs directed at the ref and linesman ended with the C word, this really needs to be stopped, there is no need for it, even more so when we are winning a game like today’s.
Still the team battled well against an often too physical Oxford side and fully deserve to be in the hat for the next round, well done boys and Bucks for making the changes.
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Post by Dave on Nov 29, 2008 18:47:09 GMT
After reading swangulls report, have to agree about the two great saves that Bevan pulled off in the first half, the second one for me, showed why his extra hight plays such a big part in him being a very good keeper.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Nov 29, 2008 18:58:45 GMT
Fantastic. It was a fantastic feeling walking out of the ground after that and reflecting on a great team effort.
There was a great reception for Toddy at half-time - probably the loudest cheer of the day.
Not pretty at times and I wondered whether we were varying from the gameplan that Bucks would have set at halftime - but we showed remarkable resolve to prevent Oxford having a meaningful effort on goal in the entire second half.
I couldn't single anyone out today - when I think I could have given MOTM to Hargreaves for holding his discipline (positionally and not getting the "2nd yellow"), I think that Benyon could have won it for his work in holding the right hand side and supporting Sills, Bevan's saves that kept us level when Ox looked likely to score, Woods and Hodges were so solid and Carayol showed fantastic maturity in the second half and changed his style.
I was furious at Dsane for raising his hands to Turley - everyone knows what happens when a player does that. The ref had no choice but to send him off - even though Turley is a wind-up merchant threre is just no excuse. I've supported Dsane all through the season but do not back him 1% after that momentus act of stupidity and indiscipline.
Anyways. To finish on a high note, I cant wait for the draw tomorrow and the trip to FGR on Tuesday. Let us not forget that despite the FA Cup is a magical competiton, the big issue is the money - we really needed that prize money today to help minimise the tangible slump in attendances. We'll almost certainly get Carlisle or Hartlepool away in Round 3, but every extra £££ is vital to the cause!
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Post by Dave on Nov 29, 2008 19:07:35 GMT
ohtobeatplainmoor as you say not pretty at times, but the work rate was something else. When Benyon got his second goal, to see what it meant to Woods and Mansell sums up the whole feeling that runs through the club and more importantly the players.
You must have had a good view of the Dsane incident, I fully agree a stupid act, when players know far to well, the action Refs will have to take. Such actions often cost games, but he can consider himself lucky, that his team mates put in so much extra to get the result.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Nov 29, 2008 19:20:10 GMT
I was in the Grandstand Dave and saw it reasonably clearly. I thought that the ref had a good first half (maybe not the best second half) he communicated his decisions well, he wasn't card happy and he handled a VERY compeitive match generally well IMHO. At times it threatend to boil-over with two commited and it was sporadically niggly. I was genuinely bewildered when there were some people APPLAUDING Dsane when he came-off - that was barking mad, he was an idiot and at best there should have been quiet disdain!! Even Buckle admitted that if you raise your hands then there will only be one outcome - especially when Paul Durkin (I guess he was the referee Assessor rather than just fancying a Cup Classic!!) was sat with clear view of the incident as well.
Still, all's well that ends well and I'm looking forward to a typically unkind FA Cup draw tomorrow! The real talking points today are (thankfully!) a great result, a gutsy perfomance , a brave and fruitful subsitution and a wonderful strike to seal the match.
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Post by Dave on Nov 29, 2008 19:29:00 GMT
We can only keep our fingers crossed, that this time the draw is kind to us, but what would be best really, a big club with no real chance of winning the match and our FA Cup run over, but a big pay day.
Or a team we stand a chance of winning against, get the prize money for winning the 3rd round match(not sure how much that is) and then in the hat for the forth round.
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Post by pikeygull on Nov 29, 2008 20:01:04 GMT
Here is Buckles post match interview www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p001j7zd/Extra_Time_29_11_2008/ Go about 34mins into it and 36 for the interview. It sounds like Buckle won't be making anything of the sending off apart from a fine for the player. He deserves it. His arrogant and laid back attitude on the pitch could have cost us if it wasn't for the other 10 players determination. In truth we were practically playing with 10 men anyway and if anyone was going to be sent off I'm glad it was him. He is the most frustrating player in our squad. Sorry for the D'sane rant but I wouldn't be sorry to see him go. Well done the boys and I throughly enjoyed the game to day. Let's hope the draw is kind. Big team Big payday or another winnable game and prize money and progression? It's over to you Soho Square. PS Turley is a w*nker, Turley is a w*nker Lah la la lah, lah la la lah
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Nov 29, 2008 20:23:03 GMT
1. In truth we were practically playing with 10 men anyway and if anyone was going to be sent off I'm glad it was him. He is the most frustrating player in our squad. Sorry for the D'sane rant but I wouldn't be sorry to see him go. 2. PS Turley is a w*nker, Turley is a w*nker Lah la la lah, lah la la lah With response to both your points Pikey: 1) Yep. It might sound harsh (and I wouldn't give him anything but support when he is on the pitch) but yes, I think if there was one player on the pitch that I would like to see move-on in January it is Dsane. Still, it is the rest of the team carrying us through - hopefully Carlisle will be fit for the 3rd round. 2) Was watching him ranting at one of his players at the end when he was walking-off!! I was waiting for him to react when he was goaded by fans near the tunnel, but to be fair he walked straight down to the dressing room. I must say though that football would be be duller without these pantomime characters, which Turley clearly is!
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 29, 2008 20:44:16 GMT
First of all what a FANTASTIC result.
A very 'entertaining' game, not just for the football but for the antics of Turley, the crowd, the Oxford numpties fans, the 2 goals and obviously the result.
I would find it difficult to write a decent match report on this game and i will tip my hat to anyone who can get all of that game down in a logical and impartial match report.
My observations are;
Didn’t understand why Stevens was dropped and replaced by Dsane & would have preferred to see Benyon on at start. Bevans save after 10 minutes was as good as you will see at Plainmoor all season. How he managed to get down, push the ball away from the attackers toe without bringing him down was phenomenal and i would have given him MoM there and then. What made it more amazing was that, bearing in mind the sort of game the ref had (atrocious) he would have loved to give them a penalty and send Bevan off. A real possible match changing moment.
I didn’t think we were very good in the First half. A bit like the first 20 minutes at Woking. Bevan kept us in the game with the save mentioned above and another one mid way through the half. I’m not saying Oxford were great, they had 2 speedy wingers and just about edged it up to our goal.
The substitution was once again a tactical masterclass, it wasn’t working, so change it, which he did. The only surprise was Thompson going off. Up until then Dsane had been woeful , without wishing to face the wrath of his admirers on here, he just wasn’t at the game, at all, again. I would have taken him off, rather than Thompson. He appeared off the pace and didn’t seem to anticipate/or get into any decent positions when we tried to get forward, didn’t defend or tackle. He also gave the ball away a few times. That said, i didn’t get a clear look at the incident but i don’t think he deserved to get sent off? He did no worse than that cheating scumbag Turley, did he??
Benyons first goal, against the run of play, was superbly taken. An assist from Sills again and a well worked goal in all.
I thought Carayol was also a bit off the pace in the first half, a few miss controls, a couple of missing the ball completely and lost the ball a couple of times, However today i thought his defensive duties and tracking back were superb. His pace when defending is even more blistering than when he is attacking.
Constable is a real handful, but Woods and Hodges didn’t give him an inch. I was hoping that Ellis would be recalled to counter his pace, but It just goes to show that pace isn’t everything and a good head on old shoulders works more often then not. Hodges was outstanding.
Talking of a wise head on old shoulders, Hargreaves was up there in my voting for MoM. Second half in particular, some of his challenges and tackle were awesome and he appeared to be everywhere. He also did well to keep calm in the face of that woeful display from the Ref.
Wroe was quiet but still reasonably effective. Last weeks game seems to have either knocked his confidence a bit or he is carrying a knock.
Sills is a work horse, he covered so much ground. In the first half chasing stuff that Dsane should have been chasing, then in the second half whilst he had to play the lone striker role. I know to some he looks slow and cumbersome, but he still puts in a tremendous amount of work. He also got both assists, i think.
Benyon, another who puts himself around. At one point he chased down 3 defenders and then got a challenge in to stop the ball being knocked forward. He also looks a predator in the box and his second goal was class, can’t wait to watch that tonight. He should be a starter now. I’d like to see 4-4-2 with him and Sills up front.
Nicholson was another who had a relatively quiet game and some of his dead ball deliveries were not up to their normal standard.
Mansell was well up for it, some crunching tackles, good overlaps, boundless energy, we don’t need another right back, the only complaint i do have is sometimes he gets caught out of position and this leaves us vulnerable to attack down that side as no-one seems to take the responsibility for covering for him, so not only his fault.
We must be doing something right, because i don’t know about you guys but in previous years after if we had gone down to 10 men i’d have been expecting to lose 2-1. However, today strangely enough, i never EVER felt that we were going to do anything but win.
The officials were just about the worst i have seen this season. Even if we don’t take into account the Dsane sending off. 2 minutes later their bald guy wrestled Sills to the floor before pushing him in the face, not only does he get away with it, but Hargreaves gets booked, go figure!!
Crowd were superb, sorry Dave i didn’t hear any swear words from where i was standing. Not sure what got the Oxford fans so riled up??
Overall a fantastic result, a thoroughly enjoyable afternoon and must rate as one of my favourite games this season. Bring on Stoke away in Tomorrows draw.
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 29, 2008 21:03:06 GMT
I thought the fans were outstanding today, the most noise we’ve had at plainmoor this season. I think the antics of Turley wound most of us up and that made us sing more and louder, i was hoarse by the end.
What were the best chants you heard this afternoon?? These were the best ones i heard;
“There’s only 1 Chris Todd...” around 10 minutes to go, that brought a lump to my throat.
“Turley, Turley, what’s the score...”
“2 nil to the Torquay boys...”
Strangest chant, from Oxford fans, “you only came because its Oxford..” It appears that they think they still play in Division 1, rather than 13 places below us. If you take off their numbers from the attendance we probably had as many at the Evesham and Chipstead games (which is not a ringing endorsement for today’s attendance)
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Post by chelstongull on Nov 29, 2008 21:06:39 GMT
I think thats how I saw the game tufc1.
The game experience always starts well with a chat with Dave. It was hard to believe that Oxford with all their talent - Constable, Trainer (was he playing), both wingers and Halsane (or whatever he's called) are doing so badly. Not being able to beat 10 men would explain why.
I thought the sending off was a bit of handbags between Dsane and Billy the cheat who (IMO) deserved all the boos and "cheat cheat" and "Wan*ker" chants he got in the second half.
It was a master class by Sills as a centre forward who took so many knocks, sandwiched between their 3 and 5, pulls, knocks, elbows and a classic knock down for Benyon to score. How the inept (and possibly blind) ref and popside lino couldn't pick one of these fouls is beyond me.
Cracking second goal by Benyon to put the game beyond Oxford.
Good to see the crowd get behind the team today and lets hope the draw is good to us tomorrow..... (Man Utd away).
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 29, 2008 21:31:59 GMT
I think thats how I saw the game tufc1. The game experience always starts well with a chat with Dave. It was hard to believe that Oxford with all their talent - [glow=yellow,2,300]Constable, Trainer (was he playing), both wingers and Halsane (or whatever he's called) are doing so badly[/glow]. Not being able to beat 10 men would explain why. I thought the sending off was a bit of handbags between Dsane and [glow=yellow,2,300]Billy the cheat who (IMO) deserved all the boos and "cheat cheat" and "Wan*ker" chants he got in the second half[/glow]. It was a master class by Sills as a centre forward who took so many knocks, sandwiched between their 3 and 5, pulls, knocks, elbows and a classic knock down for Benyon to score. How the inept (and possibly blind) ref and popside lino couldn't pick one of these fouls is beyond me. Cracking second goal by Benyon to put the game beyond Oxford. Good to see the crowd get behind the team today and lets hope the draw is good to us tomorrow..... (Man Utd away). I thought Haldane was their most dangerous player, he had pace, skill and was willing to take his man on. It was a surprise to see him taken off as he was their main threat, although he did take two knocks; a crunching tackle from Mansell and then bundled out of touch and into the dugouts by Carayol. Trainer didn't play s he was ill. Constable is obviously a threat, but i thought that Woods, and Hodges in particular, kept him well and truly under wraps. Absolutely agree with everything you said about Turley. What i could write about him would severely test the swear word filters.
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 29, 2008 22:15:58 GMT
As usual some very good reports with which I am broadly in agreement with. Buckle certainly made the right decision to bring on Benyon as our threat was minimal up until that point. Obviously some people would have liked to have seen him in the starting line up and I will be surprised if this is not the case come next Saturday! Oxford had the better of the opening period and made Bevan work for his MOTM! I think he has been a key component in our run as his height and reach enables him to make saves that even Poke would struggle with and that Rice would have no chance. (That's not to say he is a better keeper than Poke though ) From the family stand thought that the opening goal was quite soft although some great work by Sills to make it! Thought that the clapping of Dsane from this end of the ground was one of sympathy for what seemed a very harsh decision. As happens sometimes with ten men, everyone upped their game in the second half to the extent that we looked the better side and most likely to score; which we did from a very well taken goal from Benyon. He has now overtaken last season's haul of five goals showing very much the improvement he has made. Although frequently referred to as the "fox in the box," his goals against Woking (home), Forest Green and now Oxford have all been top drawer and he has developed into a fine player! Fantastic result to go one better than last year and get into the third round and await the draw tomorrow with interest. On a comparative note, our prize money so far is 50% higher than that would be earned from winning the Setanta shield.
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