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Post by Dave on Nov 22, 2008 21:04:40 GMT
Thanks crazyfool, the card being signed was a great idea and I'm sure it warmed Chris Todd, to know so many are wishing him well. You need to stop those Friday nights out mate by the sounds of it
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Post by crazyfool on Nov 22, 2008 21:13:02 GMT
Dave I most probably do. Especially the ones where I go out with £100 in my pocket and get up the next morning to find less than £20!! Either I was robbed or I drank more than I realised.
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Post by chelstongull on Nov 22, 2008 21:17:15 GMT
Andy on the radio they both said that Mansells shot was a yard past the post, BBC sure got that wrong, can't see how Phil feels its two points dropped, a rather strange remark when we came back to win a point after looking like we would not get any. I'm just a miserable git who's glass is half empty!!
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Post by Dave on Nov 22, 2008 21:18:13 GMT
Dave I most probably do. Especially the ones where I go out with £100 in my pocket and get up the next morning to find less than £20!! Either I was robbed or I drank more than I realised. Me and Carol have a meal and all our drinks on a night and still have change from £10 mate and I'm not joking Mind you Carols brothers sound a bit like you, they often spend £100 + on nights out, but then they get at the bar and buy drinks for everyone. I need to be at the pub by 7pm, if I'm going to be able to drink two pints before they close. ;D Yes all the boys in the family call me the lightweight, but my pockets sure are not.
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Post by Dave on Nov 22, 2008 21:20:57 GMT
Andy on the radio they both said that Mansells shot was a yard past the post, BBC sure got that wrong, can't see how Phil feels its two points dropped, a rather strange remark when we came back to win a point after looking like we would not get any. I'm just a miserable git who's glass is half empty!! Now come on Phil, you don't give me that impression, when we talk at football far better to get the one point, when it seemed we would not get any.
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Post by capitalgull on Nov 22, 2008 21:52:28 GMT
Shot of the day-Danny Stevens, United's equalizer Fumble of the day-Scott Beavan, Woking first goal Matching hat and coat of the day-Alan Merson Swollen ankle of the day-Kev Bridgman Swearing session of the day - my whole first half. Thought I improved a lot in the second as well, just like the team. And Crooky - completely agree w/regards to Sills. Considering he was being man-handled (read fouled) every time he tried to go up for the ball, not to lose his temper was some feat.
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Post by merse on Nov 22, 2008 22:05:24 GMT
How anyone can accuse Sills of laziness on today's performance is beyond belief! What do you expect him to do..............fecking press ups when the ball's up the other end? Jump up and down doing star jumps whilst the physio's on? How about"doggies" whilst he's waiting for the inordinate amount of time it took Woking to take any re-start today? The guy must have won 75% of the crosses aimed to him today,tracked back properly on every occasion demanded and was for ever showing himself to take a pass off a team mate. Woking is the most depressing place to watch and play football if you ask me. Absolutely no interaction with home supporters...............they just have nothing about them and shuffle in and out of the ground like mice. Endless queues to get in through the ONE single turnstile. I just slapped a tenner down daring the operator to ask for more and she said nothing so I got in for the said tenner - it's all the dump is worth! A drab 8 step and uncovered terrace along one side for us to face across a pitch cut far too short and badly in need of levelling to that dismal array of sheds they call "stands" on the other side and beneath dreadfully dim floodlights and not a squeak of atmosphere from the home fans all day. As last year Woking slowed the game down at every opportunity and slung 8 men behind the ball once they had gone two up...................boring boring place! The referee meekly let them get away with this and turned out to be the type who'll give his decisions between the boxes but suddenly becomes inactive once the ball reaches the penalty areas. He missed a handball so blatant in the Woking area first half the guy all but tucked the ball under his arm and ran with it, and in the second half again went blind when Benyon was brought down from behind. Add to the fact that two Sills' headers went wide when on another day he would have buried them and we could have had three goals to counter the two Woking fortuitously bagged. One when the ball reared up strangely in front of Bevan when he looked set to make a regulation save from a cross shot and then when he was left wrong footed thanks to a wicked deflection off one of our players on a longish ranged shot. At halftime there never seemed the slightest doubt we would pull those back and thankfully Bucks decided to by pass the over crowded midfield by withdrawing Wroe and got the team to hit a few more long balls which forced Woking onto the back foot and thus created a chasm between their front men and the rest of the team. This also allowed a bit more space for Caryol and Stevens to run at their fullbacks and this is what turned the game heavily in our favour and we really should have won it but for Caryol not maximising his one on one run at the keeper and Benyon heading hopelessly wide with a yawning goal at his mercy. Still, although not a tip top performance one in which we looked perfectly competent most of the time and never in danger of getting beaten..............even at two nil down. Woking are a full time team that play in a part time manner, without ambition or much threat and when you go to such places and they play like that in their own back yard it makes you wonder just what if any ambition they have. Thank God we had exciting young talent like Muzzie Caryol to entertain us this afternoon and I'll forgive him those shiny green boots, although with our bright amber shirts, and blue shorts and stockings it was a bit of a riot of colour...................about the only colour we were to see on a grey and cold afternoon!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2008 22:56:00 GMT
Appreciating players like Tim Sills is one of the things I most enjoy about watching football.
Merse, on another thread, mentioned Woking running out of food last year. This time it was admission tickets and programmes at 2.30pm.
Sometimes, even as an away supporter, you really pick up the buzz of a ground. But, at Woking, I agree there seems to be nothing. Today that was even more evident given the more than respectable 2,400 attendance. Maybe it's something about the place as we've discussed before. It's hardly a town called Malice, is it? From a distance I always thought Woking had the potential to become a Football League club. Up close that doesn't quite seem to be the case.
The issue of the BSP lacking the allure of the Football League has been raised before (which is a completely different matter to doubting, and dismissing, the quality of the football). There's a tremendous amount I like about non-league football - right down the pyramid - but often it strikes me that for many spectators it's an interest. The knowledge is frequently there but not quite the passion. I can understand that when the crowd is 100-200 but it seems larger crowds can be equally flat. I was at Dagenham & Redbridge earlier this season, now FL but recently ex-Conference, and expected a raucous East London atmosphere but it was actually quite gentle. There must be exceptions to what I'm saying and I'm trying to think of a few.
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 22, 2008 23:10:19 GMT
Andy on the radio they both said that Mansells shot was a yard past the post, BBC sure got that wrong, [glow=yellow,2,300]can't see how Phil feels its two points dropped, a rather strange remark [/glow]when we came back to win a point after looking like we would not get any. I came away thinking it was 2 points dropped. I felt we could have and should have got all 3 points. One of the reasons for this was the VERY poor officiating. The mood wasn't lightened by having to stand for most of the near 3 hour train journey home, mind you the guys coming back from Twickenham were even more disappointed
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Post by Rob on Nov 22, 2008 23:45:44 GMT
As Andy capitalgull says, a very strange game today. Personally. I felt slightly disappointed at not getting the 3 points for two reasons. 1. I thought Woking were crap; and 2. I would rather the one on one had fallen to Woods than the "too much time to talk himself out of it" effort Carayol produced near the end. And yes, their defender practically juggled it inside the area and Benyon was hacked down for two penalty shouts. Thought Sills was superb today - He headed back across goal for Benyon's strike and put it on a sixpence for Danny's goal, as well as making himself available, defending from the front and winning most of the aerial stuff with either:- a nudge in his back/elbow on his throat/being punched/being kicked/roundhoused/forearm smashed/pinned down/thrown/strangled - delete as applicable. Good to see the wingers switch and although Carayol fluffed his lines in front of goal twice, he and Stevens caused Woking problems all day long, with speed and trickery. Wroe had a stinker - shocking ball accross the face of goal for Woking's opener - though Greavsie and Thompson both made no frills effective contributions all afternoon from the middle of the park. Nicho's distribution at set pieces was of the exceptionally high quality we have come to expect, though he was slow to the ball for their opener and like Carayol, I'm not convinced he can shoot for toffee. A good battling performance after not waking up until midway through the first half and full praise to Bucks for the obvious shake-up at half time. Thought Benyon grabbed his 45 minute chance well and personally I felt there was a buzz every time he got the ball. It's fair to say he was prepared to put himself about physically as well as doing what we all know he can do. Mansell acquitted himself well today and the more I write the more I'm feeling it was 2 points lost against a poor side. Ah well, 16 unbeaten, good fighting spirit shown, which we'll need in this long run of games coming up and a good away turnout are plenty positives in a season where we truly are going to be up there vying for promotion on what I've seen of us thusfar. (Am police station Duty brief for Woking this evening and am pleased to report no calls for unfortunate Gulls so far!!! - Not that I'd expect that )
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Post by chrish on Nov 22, 2008 23:46:25 GMT
Matching hat and coat of the day-Alan Merson Oh christ. Is it sale time at TK MaXX again? ;D
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 22, 2008 23:51:36 GMT
How anyone can accuse Sills of laziness on today's performance is beyond belief! What do you expect him to do..............fecking press ups when the ball's up the other end? Jump up and down doing star jumps whilst the physio's on? How about"doggies" whilst he's waiting for the inordinate amount of time it took Woking to take any re-start today? The guy [glow=yellow,2,300]must have won 75%[/glow] of the crosses aimed to him today,tracked back properly on every occasion demanded and was for ever showing himself to take a pass off a team mate. [glow=yellow,2,300]Woking is the most depressing place to watch and play football if you ask me[/glow]. Absolutely no interaction with home supporters...............they just have nothing about them and shuffle in and out of the ground like mice. Endless queues to get in through the ONE single turnstile. I just slapped a tenner down daring the operator to ask for more and she said nothing so I got in for the said tenner - it's all the dump is worth! A drab 8 step and uncovered terrace along one side for us to face across a pitch cut far too short and badly in need of levelling to that dismal array of sheds they call "stands" on the other side and beneath dreadfully dim floodlights and not a squeak of atmosphere from the home fans all day. As last year Woking slowed the game down at every opportunity and slung 8 men behind the ball once they had gone two up...................boring boring place! The referee meekly let them get away with this and turned out to be the type who'll give his decisions between the boxes but suddenly becomes inactive once the ball reaches the penalty areas. He missed a handball so blatant in the Woking area first half the guy all but tucked the ball under his arm and ran with it, and in the second half again went blind when Benyon was brought down from behind. Add to the fact that two Sills' headers went wide when on another day he would have buried them and we could have had three goals to counter the two Woking fortuitously bagged. One when the ball reared up strangely in front of Bevan when he looked set to make a regulation save from a cross shot and then when he was left wrong footed thanks to a wicked deflection off one of our players on a longish ranged shot. At halftime there never seemed the slightest doubt we would pull those back and thankfully Bucks decided to by pass the over crowded midfield by withdrawing Wroe and got the team to hit a few more long balls which forced Woking onto the back foot and thus created a chasm between their front men and the rest of the team. This also allowed a bit more space for Caryol and Stevens to run at their fullbacks and this is what turned the game heavily in our favour and we really should have won it but for Caryol not maximising his one on one run at the keeper and Benyon heading hopelessly wide with a yawning goal at his mercy. Still, although not a tip top performance one in which we looked perfectly competent most of the time and never in danger of getting beaten..............even at two nil down. Woking are a full time team that play in a part time manner, without ambition or much threat and when you go to such places and they play like that in their own back yard it makes you wonder just what if any ambition they have. Thank God we had exciting young talent like Muzzie Caryol to entertain us this afternoon and I'll forgive him those shiny green boots, although with our bright amber shirts, and blue shorts and stockings it was a bit of a riot of colour...................about the only colour we were to see on a grey and cold afternoon! For me this pretty much sums up todays game and gets my vote as post of the week. The only thing i would disagree with is the bit about Sills winning 75% of the balls knocked up to him, i thought it was more like 90% (semantics i know, but he really did win just about everything). If a Man Utd/Chelsea player was given that much 'attention', him and his team mates would have been all over the ref like a bad rash. Other centre forwards may have lashed out if they were 'strangled' like Sillsy was for what should have been a penalty with 10 minutes to go.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2008 23:53:11 GMT
I felt very unfashionable in my flat cap today until I saw how similar headwear can be worn with such panache.
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Post by chrish on Nov 23, 2008 0:18:33 GMT
How anyone can accuse Sills of laziness on today's performance is beyond belief! What do you expect him to do..............fecking press ups when the ball's up the other end? Jump up and down doing star jumps whilst the physio's on? How about"doggies" whilst he's waiting for the inordinate amount of time it took Woking to take any re-start today? The guy must have won 75% of the crosses aimed to him today,tracked back properly on every occasion demanded and was for ever showing himself to take a pass off a team mate. Woking is the most depressing place to watch and play football if you ask me. Absolutely no interaction with home supporters...............they just have nothing about them and shuffle in and out of the ground like mice. Endless queues to get in through the ONE single turnstile. I just slapped a tenner down daring the operator to ask for more and she said nothing so I got in for the said tenner - it's all the dump is worth! A drab 8 step and uncovered terrace along one side for us to face across a pitch cut far too short and badly in need of levelling to that dismal array of sheds they call "stands" on the other side and beneath dreadfully dim floodlights and not a squeak of atmosphere from the home fans all day. As last year Woking slowed the game down at every opportunity and slung 8 men behind the ball once they had gone two up...................boring boring place! The referee meekly let them get away with this and turned out to be the type who'll give his decisions between the boxes but suddenly becomes inactive once the ball reaches the penalty areas. He missed a handball so blatant in the Woking area first half the guy all but tucked the ball under his arm and ran with it, and in the second half again went blind when Benyon was brought down from behind. Add to the fact that two Sills' headers went wide when on another day he would have buried them and we could have had three goals to counter the two Woking fortuitously bagged. One when the ball reared up strangely in front of Bevan when he looked set to make a regulation save from a cross shot and then when he was left wrong footed thanks to a wicked deflection off one of our players on a longish ranged shot. At halftime there never seemed the slightest doubt we would pull those back and thankfully Bucks decided to by pass the over crowded midfield by withdrawing Wroe and got the team to hit a few more long balls which forced Woking onto the back foot and thus created a chasm between their front men and the rest of the team. This also allowed a bit more space for Caryol and Stevens to run at their fullbacks and this is what turned the game heavily in our favour and we really should have won it but for Caryol not maximising his one on one run at the keeper and Benyon heading hopelessly wide with a yawning goal at his mercy. Still, although not a tip top performance one in which we looked perfectly competent most of the time and never in danger of getting beaten..............even at two nil down. Woking are a full time team that play in a part time manner, without ambition or much threat and when you go to such places and they play like that in their own back yard it makes you wonder just what if any ambition they have. Thank God we had exciting young talent like Muzzie Caryol to entertain us this afternoon and I'll forgive him those shiny green boots, although with our bright amber shirts, and blue shorts and stockings it was a bit of a riot of colour...................about the only colour we were to see on a grey and cold afternoon! That just about sums up the afternoon completely. Although I think you're being a bit conservative on Sills winning 75%. I would say it was more like 85%. For such a lazy player it seems wholly inappropriate that the opposition detailed 2 players to foul him at every opportunity. My man of the match although Carayol lit up a very dimly lit ground on several occasions. I think that with some careful management he could be a very useful player indeed. Prat of the day award is a toss up between the spineless referee, Wing Commander Gormless on the tannoy, and that daft cow in the Nissan Micra in the leisure centre car park who seemed to justify her lack of courtesy by telling me "well, I live here". I shook my head in disbelief, she told me to "f**k off" and then her foot must've have slipped off the clutch as she lurched towards the back of the next car. Mild whiplash was the least she deserved.
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Post by Rob on Nov 23, 2008 0:23:20 GMT
Sounds like the woman who lives in the Leisure Centre to me, Chris. Perhaps she's the exercise bike? I clocked Sillsy at 94%, by the way.
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