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Post by ealinggull on May 6, 2009 14:08:38 GMT
In case people haven't noticed, the maximum no of tickets you can get online at a time for the Play-off final is 29 (not 12 as mentioned on the official site yesterday).
Good news for those groups wanting to sit together.
Let's hope that, when we can buy via the phone tomorrow, we will actually be able to choose where to sit too!
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Post by chrish on May 6, 2009 14:46:02 GMT
Is this forum letting itself down on this thread? We're not all highly paid Legal Eagles, so hush you caped crusader!
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Post by merse on May 6, 2009 16:25:33 GMT
If you can't afford it, then fine, but to use the excuse that some of the cash is going to other teams or the FA/Conference/Wembley plc seems a bit poor. Since when has people not being able to afford to support their team in a vital match been "fine"..................to me that's crass, insensitive and downright arrogant. Pointing out that money from OUR pockets will be going to clubs that have disrespected us and ripped us off already this season is not an excuse, it is underlining the truth. The prices have been hiked up 40% at a time of recession just so the Conference Board can fulfill their vanity in hiring Wembley when a stadium of that size and therefore high overheads is clearly not necessary nor conveniently located or able to provide a decent transport infrastructure commensurate with the needs of the people who will be paying THEIR money in order for the profit making to go ahead. What I pointed out was the iniquity of not being allowed to chose one's seat that one is paying for with one's own money. Unless I can choose MY seat I will NOT be going, and I am predicting we will not even have ten thousand fans at the game for the simple reason that people ARE being ripped off and they CANNOT afford to be. It's OK for you as you only live thirty minutes away from the venue and it'll cost you naff all to get there, but what about people like Aussie with his daughter and all the expense they have to go to? Our fans have already been ripped off by Histon upping their prices, and it just isn't fair or morally correct. I've never been so stupid as to spend money on Wembley food or merchandising and I CAN afford to go, but I will NOT be treated like a mug and that's why nobody saw me the last time at Swindon nor at Oxford when we play there; neither bloody sHiton either! That's why I only go to games where I can watch from where I want to view the action, it's a free world and I make my decisions based on my principles.....................and my first principle is that if it ain't value for money I'm not buying it!
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Post by Rob on May 6, 2009 16:27:55 GMT
I'm merely the latter these days, honest. (You can trust a Lawyer ) Looking at ospel's chart, I don't think we have been comparatively ripped off when it comes to play-offs, though. And it's fair to say I can't help feeling anything but positive about the prospect of TUFC at Wembley. I really feel the away crowds have helped us over the season and it would be sad if too many decided to give this one a miss. You'll go, anyway, Chris. As will Andy and merse. You know it.
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Post by jamiee on May 6, 2009 16:54:33 GMT
Since when has people not being able to afford to support their team in a vital match been "fine"..................to me that's crass, insensitive and downright arrogant. I think it's fair to say that comment can only come from someone who has never been in that position. I'm struggling to find the excess £50-60 it will take to go to Wembley but I don't class myself as any of the three things you have stated. I just class myself as being skint.
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Post by merse on May 6, 2009 16:56:32 GMT
I've spoken to the Conference office about this and been asked to ring back tomorrow morning and speak to Dennis Strudwick, but basically the arrangement for on the day sales is that once the pre-book date has been reached the number that go on sale will be equal for the two clubs sections..................i.e. if one club sells out the other club gets none, and that is what happened last year when either Cambridge or Exeter sold out the other fans could not pay on the day. The conference are "aware" that fans are hugely dissatisfied over the lack of a seat choice and maintaining that prices are the same as last season's play off final. My personal view is that they have done a deal with a ticket agency and not put strict guidelines in place.....................i.e. fecked it up!
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Post by Dave on May 6, 2009 17:16:19 GMT
Is this forum letting itself down on this thread? Why do you think that rob? the fact is on here people will tell it how they see it, speak their mind and express their concerns as to what is very poor arrangements and what said arrangements will do to the support on the biggest day of our season and maybe in our history. I do feel its sad that because of the way the tickets sales and the prices have been handled, it has over shadowed the most important thing and that is the match itself and what prize is on offer for he winner. I noted in a post you made yesterday how you wanted to sing the praise of someone who has done something wonderful in your eyes. Was it the same person who called for Alex Rowe and Colin Lee to resign and leave the club, with no regards to any damage it would have cost our club. People have voiced their concerns on this forum, but its because they have principals, values and are not so silly to not know and understand what these arrangements will do on the day as it may well be the case now that TUFC fans will be out numbered four to one, maybe you should be more concerned about that Rob than making statements that this forum has let it self down. Far from it, it is seem by the club as a very good forum and a good supporter of the club.
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Post by aussie on May 6, 2009 17:42:16 GMT
Thanks for the offer Stuart your a gem, a good friend is bailing me out. Whitney SOD OFF! Train food and drink is expensive, London food and drink is expensive, so I`m going to take my Daughter on an all day trip and not feed and water her, I hear you almost coming out with "well take food and drink with you" well that`s o.k till you unwrap your sandwiches at 8 o`clock at night on the way home on the train and they are minging, last year we took food and it got really warm (in English really hot) the food was awefull, it got binned and we ended up buying some at the motorway services, similar prices to trains and their associated stations. I believe you are the same Whitney that I found myself disagreeing with and getting annoyed with on the Childrens fan site, would I be correct?
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Post by stewart on May 6, 2009 17:48:42 GMT
I'm completely with Merse on this one.
I was quite prepared to fork out around £120 for the tickets and rail fares for two of us and was also willing to put up with the non-availability of the Jubilee Line, which would cause serious delays in getting back to Southampton at a reasonable time.
However, this business about being unable to choose where we will be seated, if that also applies to telephone bookings, has almost certainly put me off. Merse hasn't actually said that that will be the case, but I shall find out for sure in the morning.
Some of us older supporters want to sit overlooking the side of the pitch and watch the whole panorama of the match and the ebb and flow of the play, but I have a feeling that the ticket office will start either side of the "noisy" blocks and work around from there. I'm afraid to say that I personally don't want to be anywhere near any singing, chanting, drumming or any of that.
If we win, no-one in the ground will be more delighted and probably emotional than I, but I resent the fact that the whole event is being treated more like a pop concert, where it doesn't matter where you sit, than a vital football match where it makes all the difference in the world.
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Post by Dave on May 6, 2009 17:55:48 GMT
What ever your views the fact is such pricing arrangements will be beyond some people, even more so those who live and work in the Bay, it can never be right that fans who have supported most home games, now face having to pay highly inflated prices to see the conclusion of the season.
Its not the fault of the club, it just comes down as Merse said the conference bosses wanting to stage the game on the biggest stage. True football fans have not been considered, true supporters who may have had to balance the books at home just to attend games at nornal match prices.
A good first division or championship ground should be the place such a final should be played, its the game and result that is most important and making sure true fans can get there and more important be able to afford it should be put first and foremost.
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Post by merse on May 6, 2009 18:26:20 GMT
Its not the fault of the club, it just comes down as Merse said the conference bosses wanting to stage the game on the biggest stage. True football fans have not been considered, true supporters who may have had to balance the books at home just to attend games at normal match prices. A good first division or championship ground should be the place such a final should be played, its the game and result that is most important and making sure true fans can get there and more important be able to afford it should be put first and foremost. Spot on Dave, and why else would they stage it at Wembley and then restrict the attendance to less than half the capacity? How on earth are they going to prevent any determined and hard core trouble makers getting in amongst the opposition fans? Are they restricting tickets for the pertinent website to the area of the club concerned? If that were the case, how on earth would I in London just down the road from Cambridge be able to buy a ticket then? So we know in reality they have no safeguards against opposition fans being in the same sections yet they use that excuse as a reason for curtailing "on the day" sales so severely. It all stinks of self convenience, hypocrisy, incompetence and a total lack of any grasp of reality from silly old buffers in blazers. Don't get wound up by "Witney" folks....................he's just a juvenile moron from another site who likes to get at me for any reason he can find. He's out of his depth amongst the intelligentsia of this site Thank goodness there is a "Singing Section" who amongst us with an iota of common sense would want to watch the game surrounded by those kids and their "Svengali"
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Post by aussie on May 6, 2009 18:42:35 GMT
There I was thinking that Whitney was a girls name!
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Post by capitalgull on May 6, 2009 18:57:27 GMT
Oh I'll be there Rob, and I am not one of those who thinks the prices of tickets is particularly high....compare it to the current Test match at Lord's (£55+) and you realise why that bastion of the game is less than half full. But if any jobsworth steward on the day tells me that I can't sit where I want when I've had no choice over my seat allocation, I might be in need of your services - pro bono of course In the knowledge they have screwed this up, and seemingly being unable to overturn their decision, maybe the Conference could.... 1. Tell their stewards not to be jobsworths and let people sit where they want on the day as long as they are in the specific tier they have paid to be in - ie: either the £30 or £35 seats. 2. Put up A4 signs at each entrance telling people they can sit where they want and apologising for making the purchase of tickets as much of an arse as they have made it. Perhaps you could suggest something like that to Mr Strudwick Merse.
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Post by Rob on May 6, 2009 19:28:44 GMT
Is this forum letting itself down on this thread? Why do you think that rob? 1 - I do feel its sad that because of the way the tickets sales and the prices have been handled, it has over shadowed the most important thing and that is the match itself and what prize is on offer for he winner. 2 - I noted in a post you made yesterday how you wanted to sing the praise of someone who has done something wonderful in your eyes. 3 - TUFC fans will be out numbered four to one, maybe you should be more concerned about that Rob than making statements that this forum has let it self down. Far from it, it is seem by the club as a very good forum and a good supporter of the club. 1 - You answer my point, Dave. They are pretty crap arrangements, I agree. But have they really overshadowed the most important thing. 2 - I don't think I expressed wonderment, though ensuring we had the same options as our Cambridge friends and sorting out the Green Man exclusively for TUFC are praiseworthy contributions to our matchday experience, in my opinion. 3 - I am concerned about being outnumbered, though hopefully not by the ratio you mention and have consistently said that. The ticketing arrangements are the same for us as Cambridge, you know. Clearly mention of Southampton Gull got your goat. Your bigger than that. PS: Good to hear you're going, Andy.
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Post by midlandstufc on May 6, 2009 19:35:58 GMT
£55 for Lords! Try Edgbaston they'll rip you off worse than that - as they tried last year(?). I got the Friday for the last Ashes here for 40 smackers - wot a day! Vaughan running Ponting out and hordes of wickets. Then they went money-mad and asked for £60 for the next test after that (two-years after? - Seth Arfrica? - can't remember, have opened the Absolut after a two-day conference in Milton Keynes - oh puleease!).
Anyway, back to the Gulls...
Yes, it's a feck up. Yes, it's a rip-off. Yes, they doe give a shite.
But it's our boys, who have for the most part, worked their socks off for us this year and deserve us to put aside the iniquities of the system and give support!
I'm looking forward to cancelling (or not, as I should say, as it's apparently like pulling teeth) my subscription to Sultana. It's got to be our year as the next one certainly won't!
The other issue is trying to pursuade my Deb to accompany me down there. She always complains that it's shit football and that she's used to the Albion (pot and kettle anyone?), but Monday night she was shouting at the telly in her Black Country brogue as much as me! Don't know the plans are yet but maybe a night in a B&B with some baby oil may just swing the deal - now to find Brad Pitt's number and see if he's free...
(for HER not ME!)
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