Rob
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Post by Rob on May 5, 2009 21:05:03 GMT
Missing Torquay United at Wembley when you are able to go is of course your choice, merse. But I do hope as many as possible make a different choice regardless of where the money goes. We will be outnumbered, unlike at Histon where our players clearly appreciated the fans' relentless and vociferous support which was similar to that at Stevenage a couple of weeks ago.
On the FGR point - I did immediately think of Mangan when I heard about the Grays game. Surely he wouldn't be so silly as to, allegedly, do it again?
Fair play to SG for sorting out the singing section with Sally.
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Post by chesneygull on May 5, 2009 21:07:58 GMT
Very reluctantly just booked my tickets. I do not like the fact of having to purchase tickets "blind" but there seems to be little choice, unless you watch the game on Sultana. Let's hope that there is a change in policy once the telephone bookings start........................I'm not holding my breath though!
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Post by petef on May 5, 2009 21:14:53 GMT
Oh come on - how many times in your lifetime are you going to see your team grace Wembley? Incredible that we have achieved our goal after another tough season and the day after some are saying that they will watch it on telly. Well if you cant afford the £30 then I really do feel sorry for you. The price of a few pints of beer and a takeaway - go on bite your noses off and miss a great day in the history of your club! Its almost as if some of us are getting a bit blaze about playing at Wembley. I realise its our fifth time but there are many clubs and supporters who have NEVER had the opportunity and may never have the opportunity to see their team play at Wembley in a very important match that will DEFINITELY define the future of our club. £30 the price of two home league games. Ask any Histon or Stevenage fan if they would pay £30 to see their side in a playoff final and I think you know what their answer would be.
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Post by crooky on May 5, 2009 21:15:39 GMT
Well said Mr Merson.
I think those prices have well and truly put off any floating support who may had any intentions of going to the game. Given the fact most of United's floaters attended the trophy final last year and Cambridge floaters went to the last seasons play-off final, I hate to think what type of crowd will turn up.
On a personal note my 75 yr old dad, who has attended a few Torquay matches with myself this season has refused to buy, and banned me from buying him a ticket in protest at those ridiculous prices.
Surely the least they could have done was to offer seniors a discount?
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Post by capitalgull on May 5, 2009 21:25:41 GMT
Oh come on - how many times in your lifetime are you going to see your team grace Wembley? Incredible that we have achieved our goal after another tough season and the day after some are saying that they will watch it on telly. Well if you cant afford the £30 then I really do feel sorry for you. The price of a few pints of beer and a takeaway - go on bite your noses off and miss a great day in the history of your club! Its almost as if some of us are getting a bit blaze about playing at Wembley. I realise its our fifth time but there are many clubs and supporters who have NEVER had the opportunity and may never have the opportunity to see their team play at Wembley in a very important match that will DEFINITELY define the future of our club. £30 the price of two home league games. Ask any Histon or Stevenage fan if they would pay £30 to see their side in a playoff final and I think you know what their answer would be. Course I want to go, but it really irks me that the Conference and Wembley make it so bloody difficult when it doesn't have to be, and as far as I can tell no one has actually said they can't afford to go...just that they feel the price is unreasonable when the receipts do not go to OUR club to emphasise like my friend! I'm not too bothered about the price (I actually think £30 is fairly reasonable) but as others have said the lack of proper concessions and the fact you can't actually book a seat in a particular section make it less attractive...sorry if you don't agree with me but it's my opinion. I mean, for example, if Merse wanted to take young Calvin to his first game at Wembley (let's maybe assume he was a year old) he would be charged £15 or £17.50 for the privilege of carrying him through the turnstiles, since of course down to the ground regs he wouldn't be able to take him in a pushchair, even one that folds. That really 'grinds my gears' to borrow something from Family Guy. "I guess they are assuming that the view from everywhere in Wembley is so mind-bogglingly wonderful that you should be grateful just to be allowed in!" as someone commented to me earlier on.
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Post by crooky on May 5, 2009 21:42:07 GMT
Oh come on - how many times in your lifetime are you going to see your team grace Wembley? Incredible that we have achieved our goal after another tough season and the day after some are saying that they will watch it on telly. Well if you cant afford the £30 then I really do feel sorry for you. The price of a few pints of beer and a takeaway - go on bite your noses off and miss a great day in the history of your club! Its almost as if some of us are getting a bit blaze about playing at Wembley. I realise its our fifth time but there are many clubs and supporters who have NEVER had the opportunity and may never have the opportunity to see their team play at Wembley in a very important match that will DEFINITELY define the future of our club. £30 the price of two home league games. Ask any Histon or Stevenage fan if they would pay £30 to see their side in a playoff final and I think you know what their answer would be. Personally at present I couldn't give a toss that the match is being played at Wembley. A 30 percent full stadium at best is hardly likely to create a wonderful atmoshere. I personally can afford to pay the £30 ticket price. The point that may have escaped you is that we are in the middle of a recession and alot of people probably can't? As for asking a Histon or Stevenage fan for their opinion on the situation I would suggest, given both clubs lack of support in the plaff-offs, that you would be extremely hard pushed to find one! ;D
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Post by stuartB on May 5, 2009 21:44:39 GMT
Oh come on - how many times in your lifetime are you going to see your team grace Wembley? Incredible that we have achieved our goal after another tough season and the day after some are saying that they will watch it on telly. Well if you cant afford the £30 then I really do feel sorry for you. The price of a few pints of beer and a takeaway - go on bite your noses off and miss a great day in the history of your club! Its almost as if some of us are getting a bit blaze about playing at Wembley. I realise its our fifth time but there are many clubs and supporters who have NEVER had the opportunity and may never have the opportunity to see their team play at Wembley in a very important match that will DEFINITELY define the future of our club. £30 the price of two home league games. Ask any Histon or Stevenage fan if they would pay £30 to see their side in a playoff final and I think you know what their answer would be. Personally at present I couldn't give a toss that the match is being played at Wembley. A 30 percent full stadium at best is hardly likely to create a wonderful atmoshere. I personally can afford to pay the £30 ticket price. The point that may have escaped you is that we are in the middle of a recession and alot of people probably can't? As for asking a Histon or Stevenage fan for their opinion on the situation I would suggest, given both clubs lack of support in the plaff-offs, that you would be extremely hard pushed to find one! ;D we could all chip in for you and you could draw the scenes for us!! ;D
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Post by jmgull on May 5, 2009 21:48:59 GMT
...There's no doubt at all that in these hard times around the bay the numbers we will take will be dissappointing, compared to other wembley years.....around 10 thousand is my guess.
£35 for a decent view on level 2, with no concessions for O.A.P.S is way too much dosh for what is, in essence, just a non lge game albeit, a play off final.
Of course the loyals and not so loyals will go, regardless of the price, but a family of 4 will be looking at 300 quid min. for a day out......
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Post by crooky on May 5, 2009 21:55:40 GMT
...There's no doubt at all that in these hard times around the bay the numbers we will take will be dissappointing, compared to other wembley years.....around 10 thousand is my guess. £35 for a decent view on level 2, with no concessions for O.A.P.S is way too much dosh for what is, in essence, just a non lge game albeit, a play off final. Of course the loyals and not so loyals will go, regardless of the price, but a family of 4 will be looking at 300 quid min. for a day out...... My brother was also thinking of tagging along with his little boy..think he may well be put off now as well...thats 3 floaters from my family probably gone already
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Post by crooky on May 5, 2009 22:00:37 GMT
Personally at present I couldn't give a toss that the match is being played at Wembley. A 30 percent full stadium at best is hardly likely to create a wonderful atmoshere. I personally can afford to pay the £30 ticket price. The point that may have escaped you is that we are in the middle of a recession and alot of people probably can't? As for asking a Histon or Stevenage fan for their opinion on the situation I would suggest, given both clubs lack of support in the plaff-offs, that you would be extremely hard pushed to find one! ;D we could all chip in for you and you could draw the scenes for us!! ;D it will probably be more reliable than listening on BBC ;D radio Devon!
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Post by petef on May 5, 2009 22:20:29 GMT
Oh come on - how many times in your lifetime are you going to see your team grace Wembley? Incredible that we have achieved our goal after another tough season and the day after some are saying that they will watch it on telly. Well if you cant afford the £30 then I really do feel sorry for you. The price of a few pints of beer and a takeaway - go on bite your noses off and miss a great day in the history of your club! Its almost as if some of us are getting a bit blaze about playing at Wembley. I realise its our fifth time but there are many clubs and supporters who have NEVER had the opportunity and may never have the opportunity to see their team play at Wembley in a very important match that will DEFINITELY define the future of our club. £30 the price of two home league games. Ask any Histon or Stevenage fan if they would pay £30 to see their side in a playoff final and I think you know what their answer would be. Personally at present I couldn't give a toss that the match is being played at Wembley. A 30 percent full stadium at best is hardly likely to create a wonderful atmoshere. I personally can afford to pay the £30 ticket price. The point that may have escaped you is that we are in the middle of a recession and alot of people probably can't? As for asking a Histon or Stevenage fan for their opinion on the situation I would suggest, given both clubs lack of support in the plaff-offs, that you would be extremely hard pushed to find one! ;D Agreed it will be a crap atmosphere, maybe we should be playing at Leicesters Walker stadium or Stokes Britannia as they used to . Perhaps they could do a working class hospitality package for £20 to include a free bog roll and a cup of Boveril! You seem to think we had great numbers over the two legs? Fridays attendance was a complete joke for such an important game. And believe once this end of season drama is over the crowds will once again dwindle back to the 2000 mark no matter what division we're in. The recession is indeed affecting many but the pubs are still doing good business and the petrol forecourts always busy must be £60 to fill up that thirsty people carrier. Any way if we don't get the 20000 supporters to match Cambridge, who are incidentally suffering the same recession as us we can always blame the Pork Flue. ;D
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Post by jerry on May 5, 2009 22:20:47 GMT
Personally at present I couldn't give a toss that the match is being played at Wembley. A 30 percent full stadium at best is hardly likely to create a wonderful atmoshere. Have to agree with this. Surely this game would be better played at a reasonably sized league ground? I think in the past they have been held at the Brittania and the Walkers stadium? This isn't a "day out at Wembley" occasion like the Trophy final, promotion is the important thing and a game played in front of full stands with a "proper" atmosphere would make far more sense than this corporate rip-off!! Booked my tickets and a £1.25 "Convenience fee" is applied to EACH ticket! Absolute scam!!
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Post by petef on May 5, 2009 22:36:45 GMT
Reach a Wembley final = expect to be ripped off big time. Been there before. Ground choice? Maybe we should ask the players where they would sooner make an appearance. Last chance Greavsie!
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Post by merse on May 6, 2009 3:05:27 GMT
I'm not interested in whether or not the game is played at hopeless Wembley or a proper football stadium like Villa Park or even the MadStad at Reading. Common bloody sense should tell senile Conference Chairman Brian Lee and his hapless Chief Executive Dennis Strudwick that charging true supporters of the two competing clubs twice over the odds for a Conference game just so that they can have a jolly for the blazers, and a diversion that will get in the way of the half time boozing for the corporates..................you'll see their empty seats well into the second half as usual; at a ridiculously too large stadium is quite, quite wrong and exploitive of the fans who desperately want to see this game that is so important to them. Then to take that gate money and to give it to clubs comprising some who have (a) pissed us about by failing to turn up for a fixture, brought the whole Competition into disrepute by fielding what is not even a good youth team and gifting selected sides points and goals and even point blankly failed to pay their players whilst at the same time continuing to pay their Chief Executive his £2k a WEEK salary as in the case of Weymouth. (b) Been consistently anti away fan and deliberately unwelcoming and even causing one of their fixtures to be delayed by AN HOUR just because they would only man and open ONE TURNSTILE for the Oxford fans as in the case of Woking. (c) Put the whole future of the Competition's sponsorship in jeopardy and fueled the game with the stench of corruption like the underpaid players of Forest Green Rovers who it looks undoubtedly like they have subsidised their low earnings and scammed the bookies by throwing a game, and (d) robbing cnuts like sHiton who contributed absolutely zilch to OUR gate receipts whilst cold bloodedly ripping OUR fans off to the tune of £18 quid for Senior Citizens and young children AND cramming the few who did pay those prices into a miserable restricted corner view whilst seats further up the touchline remained empty and unused is just plain unadulterated hypocrisy and highway robbery. Taking into account the FACT that Wembley is but forty five minutes by road from Cambridge (then another 45 minutes from any parking place to the ground), that the rail system will be in it's usual state of weekend melt down and the prices are already bleeding scandalous, that the London underground will NOT be providing any service to Wembley at all on the Jubilee Line that weekend just getting to Wembley will be a logistical and and financial nightmare for a considerable number of OUR fans and it will be no surprise to find that we are embarrassingly outnumbered by a ratio of 4:1. The Conference should NOT be taking their play off final to a venue that is unable to provide a proper transport system, and given the FACT that they knew the geographical location of the four competing play off clubs, so heavily biased against ONE (OUR club) competitor geographically. This is OUR hard earned money they are dining out on and it will be a bloody embarrassment to once again play in a ludicrously too large venue with acres and acres of empty seats destroying the already phony and plastic "atmosphere". Players wanting to play at Wembley? They're paid by us to provide a professional football service NOT to fulfill "some lifetime ambition" of showing off a trophy to a tiny knot of fans at one end and one side of an abandoned concrete bowl on the North Circular because all the disappointed losing fans have pissed off as quick as they can to struggle back home in time for work on Monday morning and begin paying off that ruddy great Visa bill they've just run up!
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Post by lambethgull on May 6, 2009 6:52:45 GMT
Agree with many of your points about the Conference, Merse, and the things you say about Wembley. And perhaps a really low crowd would also make the Conference Chiefs think about another venue next season, though I doubt it.
HOWEVER, for me all of this pales when confronted with the appalling and frankly embarassing prospect of seeing Cambridge roared on by25,000+ supporters, and us supported by 8,000 fans dotted around three sections of one half of the ground. We'll be a laughing stock, but most importantly, the players will be at a disadvantage on the day.
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