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Post by Fonda on Mar 25, 2009 23:03:57 GMT
I'm sure the players knew the performance wasn't up to scratch - certainly if as you say the manager made them aware of it. Are they really so precious that they couldn't handle the manager suggesting it wasn't good enough publically? Would the players think we were being informed of something we were unaware of? They might even appreciate the manager himself taking some of the blame too.
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Post by Budleigh on Mar 25, 2009 23:05:29 GMT
As soon as you criticise your work force in public you're finished, trust me...
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Post by Fonda on Mar 25, 2009 23:07:50 GMT
I've seen countless managers, when interviewed after games, suggesting simply 'we weren't good enough today'. I really don't see such a statement creating the shockwaves in the dressing room being hinted at.
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Post by Rob on Mar 25, 2009 23:09:12 GMT
I'm sure the players knew the performance wasn't up to scratch - certainly if as you say the manager made them aware of it. Are they really so precious that they couldn't handle the manager suggesting it wasn't good enough publically? Would the players think we were being informed of something we were unaware of? They might even appreciate the manager himself taking some of the blame too.What for? Playing them out of position? Poor tactics? Piss-poor man-management? Sacking Woods? I'm sure one or two of the younger lads might raise a snigger, but..... Jeez... |
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Post by Fonda on Mar 25, 2009 23:15:54 GMT
It's very simple Rob. "We didn't perform well today, and perhaps i got one or two things wrong myself". I don't think the world would end by such a comment. Perhaps i'm wrong and i only had to work today because the fans took the heat.
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Post by Rob on Mar 25, 2009 23:17:32 GMT
It's very simple Rob. "We didn't perform well today, and perhaps i got one or two things wrong myself". I don't think the world would end by such a comment. Perhaps i'm wrong and i only had to work today because the fans took the heat. Before answering fully, can I clarify something.. Are you paraphrasing or is that a script? |
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Post by jmgull on Mar 25, 2009 23:18:56 GMT
I've seen countless managers, when interviewed after games, suggesting simply 'we weren't good enough today'. I really don't see such a statement creating the shockwaves in the dressing room being hinted at. ...after a 4 or 5 nil drubbing at the hands of an obviously superior side then yes, the only option is honesty. We are talking about a team on a great run of results....after a 1-1 draw in a game we nearly nicked at the end - its a bit different. Why be negative? ...jeez |
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Post by Fonda on Mar 25, 2009 23:19:02 GMT
Whichever makes it easier for you to understand.
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Post by Budleigh on Mar 25, 2009 23:21:08 GMT
Look at the managers who keep their criticism's of players behind closed doors and support them 100% in public... Wenger, Fergie, Moyes etc etc and look where they sit in the game. Look at the manager's who openly do the opposite... Phil Brown, Joe Kinnear etc.. Lambasting a player in open forum is the biggest mistake a manager can make...
A number of times Bucks has been honest enough to say that the team made mistakes, indeed in the 'offending interview' he mentions '...sloppy marking...', so he's not afraid to admit to deficiencies. It seems that some people want him to make a full confession, repent his sins, pay a penance!! Should he go on the pitch before every match and shout 'Hail Mary' as many times as some weekly fans poll deem necessary for his 'sins'?
Or just maybe he can get on with managing and coaching the team to the best of his abilities?
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Post by Fonda on Mar 25, 2009 23:21:08 GMT
I've seen countless managers, when interviewed after games, suggesting simply 'we weren't good enough today'. I really don't see such a statement creating the shockwaves in the dressing room being hinted at. ...after a 4 or 5 nil drubbing at the hands of an obviously superior side then yes, the only option is honesty. We are talking about a team on a great run of results....after a 1-1 draw in a game we nearly nicked at the end - its a bit different. Why be negative? ...jeez This is where we differ. I'd see an acknowledgement that we didn't play well as a positive. At least i'd know the manager was aware of it. If he thinks the only problem is the atmosphere in the ground, we're in trouble. |
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Post by Rob on Mar 25, 2009 23:26:37 GMT
If he thinks the only problem is the atmosphere in the ground, we're in trouble. Fairly sure he didn't blame the crowd for their goal. |
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Post by Fonda on Mar 25, 2009 23:28:55 GMT
If he thinks the only problem is the atmosphere in the ground, we're in trouble. Fairly sure he didn't blame the crowd for their goal. That's a relief. I don't recall doing much wrong for that particular incident. |
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Post by Rob on Mar 25, 2009 23:32:30 GMT
Yep. Just checked. "Sloppy marking from a set play". You're in the clear this time, Fonda.
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Post by jmgull on Mar 25, 2009 23:38:54 GMT
...after a 4 or 5 nil drubbing at the hands of an obviously superior side then yes, the only option is honesty. We are talking about a team on a great run of results....after a 1-1 draw in a game we nearly nicked at the end - its a bit different. Why be negative? ...jeez This is where we differ. I'd see an acknowledgement that we didn't play well as a positive. At least i'd know the manager was aware of it. If he thinks the only problem is the atmosphere in the ground, we're in trouble. So you dont think that Paul is "aware" that the performance wasn't that good? Why would he give the players a HT rocket if he wasn't aware  ? As for the other problems at the ground? Did you also purchase a cheeseburger that was akin to eating a shoe odour eater..... |
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Post by merse on Mar 26, 2009 4:04:48 GMT
Fonda, you're once again going into one of your "serial spouting bollox" modes  ...................and he did, right up to close of play last night! Fonda, up until Tuesday night the side had accumulated sixteen out of the last eighteen available points and was top of the current form table based on the last six matches. "You can't win 'em all" is an old maxim you and your silly little gang on "another site"/the "now we can't swear, we won't sing brigade" and the "sellers of stupid tee shirts down the Dog n Duck Society" would do well to remember. Your vision of being a football manager seems to consist of picking your sides on the basis of "keep them all on the same number of first team appearances level"; canvassing the supporters for their views before picking a side or choosing tactics and issuing the manager with giant cue cards so they can be held up by way of appeasing the Popside and apologising whenever they voice their disapproval.  |
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