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Post by Rob on Jan 17, 2009 20:06:57 GMT
I'm sure there are ways to get more shots from him I look forward to them bearing goals. A poor game v Coventry and he won't start the next game, IMO.
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Post by Dave on Jan 17, 2009 22:01:57 GMT
I'm sure there are ways to get more shots from him I look forward to them bearing goals. A poor game v Coventry and he won't start the next game, IMO. Rob I have not seen Green play a poor game for some time now, I have seen him not take a few one on ones and get tackled when he was about to shoot. Yes we need more chances put in the net if we are going to make sure we win our games, but Green gives so much more to the team overall.
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 17, 2009 22:07:43 GMT
I just wish that Bucks had spent the Brough money/contract on another onion man.
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Post by Dave on Jan 17, 2009 22:12:28 GMT
I just wish that Bucks had spent the Brough money/contract on another onion man. Phil we have all been happy with most of the players Bucks have brought into the club and while some have not featured as we might have expected, they are still with us and could still do a decent job if and when required.
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 17, 2009 22:28:35 GMT
I just wish that Bucks had spent the Brough money/contract on another onion man. Phil we have all been happy with most of the players Bucks have brought into the club and while some have not featured as we might have expected, they are still with us and could still do a decent job if and when required. We have a much better team feel to the squad this year which is very important but Bucks did seem to have a turn and go out and buy up a lot of midfielders/CB!!
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Post by Rob on Jan 17, 2009 22:35:18 GMT
I just wish that Bucks had spent the Brough money/contract on another onion man. I think he thought he'd got that man when he got Green. We are not scoring enough at the moment. This has coincided with one of our centre-forwards running the channels, looking for the lay-off - have I missed anything - and not pulling the trigger and Sills' goals drying up since being in partnership with him. I want him to silence his critics, but if he wants to continually play wide and Bucks sticks with him, I'd rather see Dsane down the middle. Running at people and scoring goals. That said, we would then have given up hope of the 10 goals in 14 starts he had in him when Bucks took him on. He is possibly the player that I have found the most frustrating since Martin 'Buster' Phillips. It's obviously there, but it isn't happening for me.
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Post by Dave on Jan 17, 2009 22:36:54 GMT
He did indeed, one is now proving to be one of our best defenders, one is proving to be one of our best midfield players and one has proved he can play a good role in behind Sills when Bucks want the team to play that formation. Two are yet to really feature but they sure can come in and do a job
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Post by Dave on Jan 17, 2009 22:41:32 GMT
Rob I still have faith in him and I know that changes will have to be considered if Green does not start scoring soon, Benyon really is a bit lightweight for me, so maybe having Dsane more in the middle and Green out wide as you suggest, may well be worth trying.
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Post by NickGull on Jan 18, 2009 10:39:50 GMT
I think Buckle was wrong to take Green off on Friday. He was a threat with his strength, hold up play and pace. He is a good partner for Sills, and I much prefer Green to Benyon. Benyon still isn't strong enough for me, and he can't hold the ball up that well, in my opinion.
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Post by chesneygull on Jan 18, 2009 15:18:04 GMT
Benyon will score more goals, but Green just offers the team something different. I believe the difference was noticeable on Friday night when Green went off and Benyon came on. Credit to Benyon for being involved in the equaliser but with Green playing our general play is better. I think Buckle might be looking to bring in a striker before the end of the window, finances permitting.
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Post by evertoned on Jan 18, 2009 15:24:31 GMT
my opinion god forbid is with Paul Parker D'sane was the one to take off anybody could have scored the goal in the position he was in . Sills,Green and Benyon the extreme force Eddy
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Post by merse on Jan 18, 2009 15:44:58 GMT
my opinion god forbid is with Paul Parker D'sane was the one to take off anybody could have scored the goal in the position he was in .Sills,Green and Benyon the extreme force ..................and that sir, with the greatest respect; is total bollocks. "Anyone" would not have the nous to be there. " Anyone" would not have the presence of mind to delay that nano second and position their body correctly. "Anyone" would not have cushioned the shot so that it didn't end up in Warbro Road. Sills doesn't score goals like that (and that's not taking anything away from him) neither does Benyon - not close in "Greaves like" as Dsane does.................that is a poacher's goal and Roscoe is a poacher.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jan 18, 2009 21:56:58 GMT
Not really sure whether to post this on the "Phillips in - Beavon out?" or the "Where's the passion" themed threads, but here goes.....
With regards to the levels of success that our team and strike-force has to date this season and also looking ahead, it is clear that we have recently not put the ball in the net as often as we would hope (or expect!). I would think that most people who have watched the matches would agree. How that is resolved is the real question that is going to have most supporters having different perspectives....
I don't see myself as a defeatest, more of a realist. As we are 18 points behind Burton, who seem to be showing little sign of slowing-up - surely only some significant disruption to their regular starting line-up will give anyone else a chance of getting those ponts back? In some ways, that takes the immediate pressure off us (although obviously not to the extent we can afford to slip-out of the play-offs). We seemed to be really under pressure this time last season and the disappointment of missing-out on automatic promtion didn't really hit the players until we were defeated by Aldershot in such a dramatic fashion. I think being in this position still gives us a margain for error that we wouldn't have if we were 6 /8 points from the top. A draw at Wrexham isn't a disaster by any means, we don't feel it as much if we were snapping on the heels of Burton.
Bucks last season made an offer for Jamie Mackie at Exeter City - at the time I was very pleased that a move for a goal-shy striker didn't succeed (at that point he had scored since NYD and it was then August). The City fans seemed to agree that he "did everything but score", but Tisdale kept faith in , Mackie kept working hard - suddenly it all "clicked" and he went on a blistering run that kick-started Exeter's push for promotion. I believe that Green is really just waiting to expode - his work-rate recently has been immense (after a false-start to his TUFC career), he clearly has ability and his confidence his starting to return. I find myself frustrated with Green (like I do with Wroe when he "goes missing" on occaisions), but he is a young player with a potential ability to succeed at a higher level and he's proven that he can score goals with Oxford and I think that I've been unfair in my judgements at times. Bucks clearly believes in Green and the recent performances on Green show huge improvement in stamina and strength shows just how much work has been done to get him up to first-team standard.
I have absolute faith in Bucks to get the players to provide optimum team performances - that's based on the improvement made from the summer to date and the performances that I feel are just lacking in the penalty box at times. At this stage last season we were 6 points behind rather than 18, but I feel that we have nothing to fear from the other teams - we can beat all of them on our day. The next few months is the time that we need to see the levels of performance continue to improve with the play-offs in mind.
If there were to be any additional players coming-in (and I don't believe that there will be), it has to be a player that can come-in to this team and hold-down a starting line-up. Plummer might have been sensible given that there were doubts over the fitness of Carayol and Dsane, but I couldn't see him ever be a partner to Sills and scoring goals in the team ahead of Benyon or Green at this stage of his career. I've not seen enough of Beavon to say whether I think he is the answer, but our crowds have been dreadful and I can't see how we can contemplate sustaining the level of wage we have at the moment without off-loading players, let alone adding to the wage-bill...... Unless an unmissable opportunity comes-up to sign a proven striker that Bucks believes will be the answer our goalscoring problems than I think we should keep absolute faith in Benyon and Green.
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Post by Rob on Jan 18, 2009 22:16:43 GMT
I believe that Green is really just waiting to explode - his work-rate recently has been immense (after a false-start to his TUFC career), he clearly has ability and his confidence his starting to return. I find myself frustrated with Green (like I do with Wroe when he "goes missing" on occaisions), but he is a young player with a potential ability to succeed at a higher level and he's proven that he can score goals with Oxford and I think that I've been unfair in my judgements at times. Bucks clearly believes in Green and the recent performances on Green show huge improvement in stamina and strength shows just how much work has been done to get him up to first-team standard. A cracking post and an interesting parallel with Mackie. The frustration perfectly describes how I think myself and a great many others feel about someone with such pace, strength and previous goalscoring record. Perhaps another FA Cup winner is needed before we see the "swagger" of a one in two frontman he could become?
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 20, 2009 8:24:28 GMT
I see Scott Rendell is back at Cambridge Utd until the end of the season.
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