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Post by petef on May 3, 2022 12:53:20 GMT
Close enough to the end of the season to begin the usual speculating and discovering who is still under contract for next season etc so lets get a thread going.
A few two year contracts were handed out at the start of this season I would guess but who are they?
Who will be looking for pastures new?
Who will be surplus to requirements and released?
Who will retire from playing?
Who do we want to hang on to?
Will we better prepared this year?
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Post by stefano on May 3, 2022 13:35:40 GMT
Hopefully we will be better prepared than last season. The very short close season following the disappointment in the play offs was a disaster. Several decent players moving sideways to rivals in the same league and the new recruits being nothing to get excited about.
Hopefully with Exeter joining Argyle in League 1 we may get a few more loan opportunities.
I am not aware of any of the present squad already contracted for next season but I am sure Jon will have that at his fingertips.
Little may be difficult to hold on to, but I hope we make a serious effort.
Although it could be said the season has not been too bad and that form since the turn of the year has been very good, I think the reality is that the team and overall squad is a long way short of what is needed to achieve promotion.
Now that I have said that we are bound to beat both Chesterfield and Stockport County next week! 😉⚽️
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Post by petef on May 3, 2022 15:48:50 GMT
With a last hurdle and failed promotion bid and an exodus of a third of our best players the influx of new players and departures could quite easily have turned out ot be a major disaster but for the hard work and motivational skills of the manager and his team . A lesser manager and we would undoubtedly have been fighting it out in the bottom half. Initially the rushed pre season signings seemed to be well below our expectations but generally speaking many have been successful and improved over the season once they understood where the manager was coming from. Lapslie, Johnson, Martin and Omar whos recent form is promising have been good sound signings for a club in our position. Halstead, Holman, Rogers and Lolos not so IMHO. O'Connell is somewhere in the middle but I feel there's a player in there that could develop into something decent A 50% success rate not fantastic but not a disaster we all thought after the first few games of the season.
The ingredients for success at this or any level are simple enough. 1. A good manager with a proven track record and sound tactics who can motivate. 2. A core of players of a high enough quality to play at the next level with a good mix of experience and youth. This is the tough bit - to be able to get enough quality in the squad to really compete not at all easy for us and when you lose you lose your best players the rebuilding work has to start all over again. For me this is always has been and always will be a major problem for a club of our stature. Success of any kind attracts attention from the bigger fish and suddenly your left trying to build again. Disheartening for everyone but lets wait and see who stays and who wants out. I predict CLE will be on his way and that he likely struck deal for this season with the manager to have one last shot at promotion at TUFC. Armani took a lot of stick from supporters early on this season and may feel he wants away and a fresh start. Lwis is the only other young player I can see who would attract attention but would hope hes on a long contract. Our three experienced old heads are approaching the ends of their careers and I do wonder if Danny, Asa and Mox have another high intensity season left in their old muscles and bones. I would like to think the ground work has been done for new signings of the correct quality as their could be some big boots fill. However I do know that even with a squad not quite good enough in quality will always be competitive under Garry Johnson.
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Post by chelstongull on May 3, 2022 18:33:35 GMT
With a last hurdle and failed promotion bid and an exodus of a third of our best players the influx of new players and departures could quite easily have turned out ot be a major disaster but for the hard work and motivational skills of the manager and his team . A lesser manager and we would undoubtedly have been fighting it out in the bottom half. Initially the rushed pre season signings seemed to be well below our expectations but generally speaking many have been successful and improved over the season once they understood where the manager was coming from. Lapslie, Johnson, Martin and Omar whos recent form is promising have been good sound signings for a club in our position. Halstead, Holman, Rogers and Lolos not so IMHO. O'Connell is somewhere in the middle but I feel there's a player in there that could develop into something decent A 50% success rate not fantastic but not a disaster we all thought after the first few games of the season. The ingredients for success at this or any level are simple enough. 1. A good manager with a proven track record and sound tactics who can motivate. 2. A core of players of a high enough quality to play at the next level with a good mix of experience and youth. This is the tough bit - to be able to get enough quality in the squad to really compete not at all easy for us and when you lose you lose your best players the rebuilding work has to start all over again. For me this is always has been and always will be a major problem for a club of our stature. Success of any kind attracts attention from the bigger fish and suddenly your left trying to build again. Disheartening for everyone but lets wait and see who stays and who wants out. I predict CLE will be on his way and that he likely struck deal for this season with the manager to have one last shot at promotion at TUFC. Armani took a lot of stick from supporters early on this season and may feel he wants away and a fresh start. Lwis is the only other young player I can see who would attract attention but would hope hes on a long contract. Our three experienced old heads are approaching the ends of their careers and I do wonder if Danny, Asa and Mox have another high intensity season left in their old muscles and bones. I would like to think the ground work has been done for new signings of the correct quality as their could be some big boots fill. However I do know that even with a squad not quite good enough in quality will always be competitive under Garry Johnson. Fair assessment Pete. You can add Moore and Felix to the why we’re they signed at all . Not sure about Edwards. I think we’ll lose the three musketeers: Little, Lewis and Evans. What to do about Moxey, Hall and Wright is just as important. Our strike force this year has been somewhat underwhelming. Glass half full, blimey I haven’t even got a glass 🍺
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Post by rjdgull on May 3, 2022 18:38:59 GMT
Just to recap on the squad:
Keepers - Macdonald. Halstead, Brzozowski.
Defenders - Wynter, Lewis, Moxey, Martin, Slough, Omar,
Midfielders- Hall, Little, CLE, Rogers, Felix, O’Connell, Johnson, Lapslie, Piper, Moyse
Strikers - Koszela, Wright, Holman, Lolos.
Technically Andrews is part of the squad still but he will be off.
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Post by rjdgull on May 11, 2022 18:42:51 GMT
link - just looking at this list and see that Johnson previously signed Nigel Atangana when at Cheltenham previously. Not sure if anyone else is worth a punt?
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Post by nickbrod on May 13, 2022 16:38:45 GMT
Seems striker Tony Lee, 26, currently at Poole Town is on the radar. He's scored 46 goals in 48 appearances including 13 penalties; previously at Wimborne Town and on loan at Havant & Waterlooville.
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Post by stig123 on May 13, 2022 18:47:46 GMT
Scores a lot of goals and looks physically strong. Still quite young. Worth a punt.
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Post by petef on May 13, 2022 20:35:50 GMT
Always good to see we're monitor prospective talent - shows we're on the ball but Southern League is a different kettle of fish compared to what is now regarded as FL league 3 by many. Clearly remember Jared Lewington here for a while who incidentally has just gone a up a level with Taunton Town, failing to impress after scoring for fun at a similar level. To much to ask but we need a Padraig Amond type here (just released by Newport) if we have any ambition to escape this division. Stockport were quick slick and experienced and clearly showed us the standard we need to achieve to move forward and compete at the top. We have all of the other ingredients to do very well but quality and experience will, as usual, be hard to come by.
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Post by petef on May 13, 2022 21:16:35 GMT
Not a coincidence ... a decent proven striker = essential.
GOALS -PLAYED-GLS PER 90M -MINS PER GL-TOTAL SHOTS
1 Paul Mullin Wrexham 26 37 0.74 122 26 2 Kabongo Tshimanga Chesterfield 24 27 0.90 100 24 3 Paddy Madden Stockport County 22 42 0.55 162 22 4 Andrew Dallas Solihull Moors 19 42 0.57 158 19 4 Rúben Rodrigues Notts County 19 41 0.49 183 19 4 Kyle Wootton Notts County 19 42 0.46 194 19
SELECTED OTHERS 12 Josh Umerah Wealdstone 15 42 0.41 221 15 12 Armani Little Torquay United 15 38 0.41 222 15
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Post by rjdgull on May 13, 2022 21:47:26 GMT
Seems striker Tony Lee, 26, currently at Poole Town is on the radar. He's scored 46 goals in 48 appearances including 13 penalties; previously at Wimborne Town and on loan at Havant & Waterlooville. Saw him in pre season - had a couple of chances I think but didn’t score - Poole match report
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Post by rjdgull on May 13, 2022 22:19:59 GMT
Not a coincidence ... a decent proven striker = essential. You could argue that Tshimanga getting injured with the highest goals per game ratio knocked Chesterfield off course this season as did Wright for us last season although we had goals right through the side in that year which is hard to defend against. Hall top scorer last season and Little this, both from midfield. Would definitely re-sign Moxey, was second in the appearance charts until the last month of the season. Hall and Wright have managed just half a season of games and Wright the same last year so their impact is starting to diminish. Think the only players with another year left are a proportion of those announced together at the beginning of the season such as Omar and Lolos but we will find out on Monday.
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Post by stig123 on May 14, 2022 9:23:10 GMT
Very difficult to score if you are not on the pitch. Replacing Wright should be a top priority.
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Post by plainmoorpete on May 14, 2022 14:03:15 GMT
Gary Johnson's recent comments "There are some we have offered contracts to and have declined...." sounds to me that we are going lose a significant number of our better players (and with our paper thin squad two would be a significant number). As petef says it's good that we are monitoring prospective talent but shouldn't be under any illusion that someone who scores for fun at a lower level can replicate it two tiers higher. I'm reminded that we turned over Southern League sides in the pre-season friendlies only to crash back to earth in the opening league fixtures against the likes of Altrincham and Woking.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 14:56:47 GMT
Very difficult to score if you are not on the pitch. Replacing Wright should be a top priority. My sentiments exactly, Wright may be a good player on the pitch but he rarely sees the pitch…except from the stands. If Wright has been given another contract it will show our intent for next season…he might be a little Poncho to keep the rain off, but he’s hardly a Marquee! I do like the sound of this Tony Lee fella, knows where the net is as opposed to our strike force, and indeed he should…’cause it’s bloody big enough! ⛺️
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