What happens next?

Morning Militants 


Unfortunately I don't currently have the authority necessary to release the requested 'full details' to the public. However.....should I be named as a member of the local board that's soon to being appointed, then you have my word that it's an issue I will bring up for discussion around the boardroom table at the first opportunity. Failing that, don't give up hope that there might be a fully embedded GITUST appointee on the local board. That should do the trick for you just as well.

But to put minds at rest, there can be no switch to a new ground, and no ownership of the Plainmoor freehold passing to G.I without the Council's full cooperation. There have already been extensive talks with agencies directly connected to the council. Detailed information will have been disclosed by both sides.

Why not instruct your elected Mayor to provide you with full details, or your local councillor to make them available for you ?  Possibly an even quicker option is for a local TUST member to contact his MP, who will have either just had a meeting with Clarke Osborne, or has one booked into his diary for the near future. And of course don't just accept the MP's account of what he's found out, but demand he provides you with full details, so that you can scrutinise them yourselves.

But honestly, what would the point of any of that be. Take for a minute, those paragons of transparency the Torquay United Supporters Trust. Always careful to practice what they preach, yet when they, as naturally they would have, provided full details of the ACV on 'Plainmoor' that they took credit for...not a single one of their members said 'Hang on a minute...this doesn't look quite right'.   If you all failed so dismally on the ACV, there's nothing to suggest you'd have the first idea, if the details of this were put before you. 

Rob asks about G.I's past business record. It's by far and away TUST members favourite topic. Given that TUST officials have had meetings with G.I surely that was the first question they asked on behalf of their members ?. So what answers did your organisation give you on this subject ? In what ways were those answers unsatisfactory ? You pay them every month, although they seem to be taking the whole of the Summer off.....ask them to get more or better questions in ahead of their next scheduled meeting with Clarke Osborne. Unless.....through colluding in a notoriously inaccurate newspaper hit piece, TUST have so sullied their reputation with the Club's owners that they've now damaged the channels of communication that could have so aided their members ?

As ever, if TUST went about putting their own house in order first, rather than finding fault with other people's, then they could start to build a constructive reputation for themselves rather than the destructive one they're currently lumbered with, and which prevented the previous board, quite possibly the current one, and the Torbay community from taking them seriously.

AJ 

That's right Jerry, and as previously mentioned, it's impossible not to notice poor old GI Joe routinely opts not to address their 100% non-building record from over 30 years of promising new stadia.

jerry 

When the business changed hands, naturally a legally binding agreement was entered into.  TUST members were informed (see my earlier post) as to what it would contain. Peter Masters made sure those conditions were in the agreement: "In the agreement, there are a number of conditions that they need to fulfil and are obliged to fulfil". 

Osborne, even if he wanted, has no option other than to confirm that we won't leave Plainmoor until the new stadium is ready to move into. If he didn't want that then he shouldn't have signed up to it. TUST know all this from the old owners, and Osborne is quite happy to go on the record and reiterate as many times as you want, as would Pete Masters if you have a word with him at the upcoming pre season friendly. Now the Council can pile in as well and add another thousand clauses and conditions along the same lines.

But I'd ask in all seriousness, wasn't this one of the absolutely first things that TUST requested confirmation of in their meetings with Osborne ? Along with the 'Past non stadiums issue', that so exercises it's members ?  Haven't you TUST members been provided with the answers  received by the TUST hierarchy who attended these meetings on your behalf ? And if not why aren't you battering down the doors of TUST HQ demanding transparency from THEM....rather than moaning about it here ?. If I was giving them money every month, yet still hadn't heard a dickie bird as to the top crucial issues...I'd be providing them with a swift kick up the Guardianistas, because when you add in the ACV fiasco as well....I'd be distinctly unimpressed by my Fans 'Representatives'. You'd get more and quicker info from a quick phone call to Truro, or buying Pete Masters a shandy in the Gulls Nest at full time.

But in the end does anyone think that the facts or reality will deflect the TUST Militants away from their chosen agenda ?   No...neither do I 

You don't know whether I'm a TUST member Joe. I'm fairly sure that you are though (you are always quick to comment on the mails that TUST members receive, often before they have been mentioned anywhere else).

I can help you out there Alpine. They have never successfully managed to build a new stadium. Simple.

I can only assume you were unaware of this fact as you have consistently failed to mention it in your many long posts singing their praises.

You would think that Mr. Osborne would come out and address this issue really wouldn't you? As this is by far the biggest concern of the fanbase (TUST members and non TUST members). A simple statement explaining the genuine reasons behind their much regretted failure to provide the facilities they promised.

No doubt there is a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why the residents of Reading can no longer watch speedway in their town. If Mr. Osborne could kindly spare a moment of his time to fill us in I'm sure it would stop people jumping to the conclusion that the reason is simply his greed.