European Union: In or Out ?

Well I very nearly responded none of them but then remembered the Right Hon Kenneth Clarke CH QC. A man of principle who says it as it is.

I like him for very much the same reasons that you like Mr Nigel Farage, although I would prefer to listen to the views of somebody with many years of parliamentary and ministerial experience rather than somebody who comes over as the pub loudmouth.

Just one more point as I have no appointments today and need to settle down in front of the Parliament channel and Sky News (although I don't get sick pay or holiday pay there are some advantages to being self employed!)- you raised with another poster about his spelling of Farridge. That is Farage's family name derived from the French Huguenots and over the years it has been bastardised to Farage. I expect if you go back you will find your name has connections to King Charles I, though don't lose your head over it......

Reg, as a man who over a number of months must surely have sensed a concerted effort being made in some quarters to start unfurling the 'Offence' banners before you've even finished typing your post, your confidence that you'll be left here at all .... never mind alone, is admirable. Best of luck anyway, but wrapping yourself in a TUST tracksuit for a while might be a defensive measure worth considering.

On to matters Brexit, and while Stewart rightly praises him for his sincerity, you can't help concluding that our Nigel is out of step with majority 'Leaver' opinion at present. Kudos for saying what he thinks, and popularity for it's own sake has never been a road he's taken, but the ideal Brexit that he'd prefer to hold out for is never likely to be achieved, indeed in my own case as I explained here before the Referendum, I was voting 'Leave' in the full expectation there'd be no Brexit even if the vote was won. On that basis I'll content myself with a glass half full if it's achievable ... the BoJo deal which is a massive improvement on Remainer May's plan to sign up to something that not only kept us in (in all but name) but was designed to gradually integrate us stealthily back in, to the extent that renewed full membership must surely have been her ultimate ambition.


Today's reputable survey results indicate that our Nige is putting his Party out on a limb. Perhaps a Widdecombe coup is needed, and an (adopted) Devon girl will grab the reins ? Parliamentary predictions are still hard to make, as the anti democratic forces often have the numbers, as well as the levers of power, thanks to Mr.Bercow. Just when you think they wouldn't dare ratchet up Parliament versus The People any further, they take their disdain for the electorate or any hope we might have that they might stand by their manifesto commitments, and throw it back in our faces with even more force than before.







But, the 2nd Referendum, I'd guess, is still a step too far. A British Parliament enacting a Referendum at the moment on any issue at all, having so recently proved to the British people that it doesn't respect the result of Referendums, would be a farce. It's certainly not something I'd participate in. So the idea needs to be rejected on principle, without bothering to get into how the voting choices could be further rigged to ensure a Remainiac victory. In that respect I think that we might hopefully be able to rely on groups such as the DUP, however much they might not wish help Boris at present, to vote in such a way so that any of the travesties of democracy that Remainiac plotters would impose on us, are not successful. The same with a Customs Union, which would mean signing up for the very things that are core fundamentals of the EU which we've voted to get away from. So in that respect we have to say all power to Arlene and her colleagues; please save Brexit for us, even though Boris has shafted you in order to get a deal with Tusk & Co.


In the meantime I'm off to do some research into the Brexit views of the (fully employed) Bulgarian Community in Yeovil  . The fact that so many of them could afford the fare to London to follow The Glovers should have indicated that they're earning cash, and have clearly integrated into their local Somerset community. I believe arrests have been made, and Boris (before or after Brexit) will see what steps can be taken to repatriate the offenders to Sofia.

Then again, as I think your joke was obviously indicating (or at least it did to me) it won't be Bulgarians at all (not even Great Uncle Bulgaria himself wombling across town from Wimbledon to Harringay for the match). And that while the UK media spent a week castigating the Bulgarians, we've had a quick and immediate reminder that we have more than enough of our own racists in Blighty. All that 'one big happy integrated family' superiority that many had been basking in, came crashing down around our ears as soon as the very next football weekend. And any hopes of blaming our own problems on the Bulgarians would be a joke, as you demonstrated wonderfully. If there are any Bulgarians in the windswept wilds of Yorkshire, I'm sure they'll be trying to seek you out to shake your hand. 'Thank you for your solidarity with us Mr. Register. Let he who is without sin be the first to slate the Bulgarians. And it's certainly not you Brits with more than enough racists of your own. Thank you again. We couldn't have put it Buddha ourselves' - Bulgars For Brexit (Barnsley Section)

rjdgull is in place and ready to take your photocopied, hand written, or unsigned expressions of Offence. But please send them directly to him, rather than clogging up this thread.


Enjoy your political week, whether you be a Remainiac, Militant, Bulgarian, or perpetually defeated female footy player dreaming of a TUST tracksuit  . 

Yes, I have heard the handles squeaking as the grindstones turn in some quarters, and of course they don't have to put water on the stone, when drooling on the stone is sufficient! 

Simply put, if they're not remotely interested in anything that's remotely interesting...it's highly unlikely they'll understand what I'm actually on about! 

Who does?

We had a really bizarre situation in Parliament today that wasn’t much reported on. They wanted a vote on the deal without having first seen the actual full text of a Bill or the deal (merely an outline) under consideration. Same happened Saturday until it became pointless as Parliament voted effectively to both see it and consider it. As you’d expect.

Of course people and MP’s can make a judgement from an outline and many have, but it is merely an outline that has been sent to date to those from whom a vote is required. MP’s still haven’t seen the full text of that which they are now being asked to consider and make amendments on tomorrow. Let alone any impact assessments in relation to it, which really should be seen and are what is expected with legislation of much less magnitude than this.

I appreciate time constraints and that these are unusual times, but that is no fit way to govern and make laws. Yet still some want to make a big deal of there not being a vote today and arguing that their nominated panto villain has prevented it. Publish the bloody thing first at the very least!! It beggars belief. This Government is the strangest of things and I would imagine, Stewart, you are not surprised that it is so slapdash with regard to detail with the person it has at the helm.

AJ’s further departure from Brexit Party Leader, NF, is noted.

When I saw this about an hour ago, I thought, what on earth are you talking about? I then realised that this was the famous match against Newport County and noted that you had asked me this question in an article on the Programmes Board. Sorry I missed it.

Reg Jenkins was one of my favourite all-time players and I was astonished when the club let him go to Rochdale for a pittance at the end of this season. I could never understand why a player who was born and brought up in Cornwall would want to relocate to a dismal town in Lancashire. He had one of the hardest shots I have ever seen after watching football for over sixty years.

Both of his goals against Newport were struck from around the edge of the penalty area and flew into the net past Len Weare. Bobby Webb was an out and out winger who was preferred in that position to Peter Anderson, who arrived from Plymouth but was forced to play at inside right. Webb was only about 5 foot 6 inches tall and I can't recall him heading the ball very much.

Jon has obviously re-examined the match report in the Herald and spotted this discrepancy. I have often said that match reporting in the Herald in those days was far more detailed than it is now, however Webb did not score a goal in that match because Reg Jenkins did score twice, with memorable goals. Not as memorable, though, as Stubbs' last of five for him, an incredible goal from about 40 yards with barely a backlift.

Bobby Webb is still alive at the age of 85, according to Wikipedia. Perhaps if anyone can track him down, the final word should come from him?

None of this has anything to do with the title of this thread, so perhaps someone in the know could move it to an appropriate place?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/pms-brexit-deal-available-to-theresa-may-15-months-ago-says-philip-hammond-11846739

BJ’s deal not so new. Rejected previously by May’s Government even though it was EU27 preferred deal. Johnson agreed at the time that ‘it was not something any PM could agree to’. No wonder May was talking about deja-vu in the Commons the other week before the Clown delayed his bill.

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Reg 

Jezz We Can !    I'm sure we'll do our best to make the case for PM Jezza and Home Secretary Abbott in the run up to any General Election, Reg .... but will our endorsement be enough to convince enough TFF members of the array of talent within the upper echelons of Labour, just ready to guide the country to ....total destruction. Three or four years of Prime Minister Jezza and you'll have cured several generations of their Socialist errors for good. But is it a price worth paying ? Would the patient be left near death's door from a dose of such medicine and not just inoculated from Socialist utopian delirium until the year 3000 ?

Collateral advantages such as knocking out TUST, of course, but parochial benefits have to be forgotten about and the bigger picture considered. For the moment Jezza and his gang are absolutely desperate that we don't have the opportunity to vote at all. He's painfully aware of the opinion polls and his personal unpopularity. But the Rebel Alliance of Labour, the Jocks & Fuhrer Swinson is fatally split, with the Losers Vote organisation sacking a couple of it's top men last night.

An Election looks more likely to be on the cards than it has for months. Our lad Jezza is probably out of excuses as to how to continue stopping the public expressing their wish. The bad news for him is that there's rather a lot of 'public' outside of London.

Let's zip up our TUST tracksuits and keep the TFF red flag flying. Let's get the message out that Jezza is good for Britain, and for Bulgarians everywhere ....not just in Yeovil.