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Post by petef on Nov 21, 2011 18:15:26 GMT
Ha ha - "Stevens could be as good as Jake Robinson" - were you pissed when you wrote that? Totaly predictable  Danny will never get some on his side. I can only imagine that those who slag him off so redilly have never played the game and are technically ignorant. You will never win an argument with statements like that. |
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Post by loyalgull on Nov 21, 2011 19:42:18 GMT
strange player stevens,he has spent the last few years as a sub for ten minute,a bench warmer or not in the squad,but little glimpses of his potential have appeared here and there,consistency and self belief were his problem,at present he is doing the business i cant argue with that,in the team on merit
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Post by Jon on Nov 21, 2011 23:15:55 GMT
strange player stevens,he has spent the last few years as a sub for ten minute,a bench warmer or not in the squad,but little glimpses of his potential have appeared here and there,consistency and self belief were his problem,at present he is doing the business i cant argue with that,in the team on merit Danny was a topic of discussion at the fans' forum with Martin Ling at the start of the season. Ling said that Danny was a player of great technical quality but that he had told him that a wide player has to either get in decent crosses or cut in and get some shots on goal - to produce some "end product" - to justify his inclusion. Danny seems to have taken that on board. I was sceptical about whether he carried sufficient goal threat to feature in a front three - a role I thought more suited to players who had played as strikers like Bodin, Zebroski or Robinson, but he seems to be proving me wrong. |
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Post by Jon on Nov 21, 2011 23:41:35 GMT
It was a bit of a strange local derby to be honest - as it is rare for there to be such a gulf in class between the two sides. In many ways, that made it like one of those giants v minnows FA Cup ties that we have witnessed from both sides of the fence. Going in to it, you think you will win, you even think you have a decent chance of handing out a drubbing but you have a nagging doubt that you could fall flat on your face and end up looking stupid. The first half was so typical of that kind of game. In a way, you could say there was nothing between the two teams. If you looked a little deeper you could see that one side was working its socks off and going at full throttle to close space down, whilst the favourites were knocked off their stride and struggling to get going. If this could continue for another twenty minutes or so, there could be a goal on the break and anything could happen. But then class tells, the resistance crumbles and it looks like it could be a massacre. Then the big boys take their foot off the gas and the underdogs rally to grab a plucky consolation goal and finish with a respectable scoreline. I wonder where you get a patting your harmless little brother on the head smiley from?  Chatted with a few Argyle fans on the way in and exchanged good wishes. Most Argyle fans are decent folk and you wouldn't wish more pain on them. Devon needs three League clubs. But when you read the patronising twaddle from that idiot "We're too big to stay in League 2" Newell, you start to think that a nice Oxford-sized or Luton-sized spell in the Conference might knock some of the arrogance out of a certain section of their support. We've been in the position of trying to fashion a decent team out of loan signings and out of contract players when Roberts managed to hang on past the end of January. It isn't easy. Argyle are better placed in that if they can keep in contact until January, they can strengthen properly. I don't think Fletcher is the man to keep them up though. He and Larrieu got the caretaker job in a bit of strike-busting divide and rule. I was shocked when they were confirmed in the job after the takeover - on the back of a time honoured dead cat bounce. Fletcher is earning a fortune - a Championship player on a Championship wage. Burdening him with a job he can't do not only leaves you with a rubbish manager, it robs you of your best player - as I'm sure his on the field performances have suffered and will suffer enormously. |
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 22, 2011 0:21:01 GMT
. If you looked a little deeper you could see that one side was working its socks off and going at full throttle to close space down, whilst the favourites were knocked off their stride and struggling to get going. . Yep, commented to the guy I sit next to at half time that Plymouth had closed us down well and stopped us playing but that I didn't think that they would be able to keep it going. I didn't really expect such a drastic turnaround. Did you notice how the Torquay players came out a couple of minutes before the Plymouth boys at the start of the second half? Is this a sign of the football manager's naughty step! |
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Post by alunmeerkat on Nov 22, 2011 10:34:47 GMT
What I actually meant by the message was that Jake Robinson was being put up as someone that Stevens should aspire to, which I thought was laughable.
Robinson looked good for about five minutes of every game and went missing for the other 85 minutes. No suprise to me that he can't hold down a regular place in anyones team.
Fair play to Stevens who has at last turned his form round.
Looking at the tv replays I actually thought Stevens goal was the goal of the game even bettering O'Kanes second.
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 22, 2011 14:01:22 GMT
What I actually meant by the message was that Jake Robinson was being put up as someone that Stevens should aspire to, which I thought was laughable. Robinson looked good for about five minutes of every game and went missing for the other 85 minutes. No suprise to me that he can't hold down a regular place in anyones team. Fair play to Stevens who has at last turned his form round. Looking at the tv replays I actually thought Stevens goal was the goal of the game even bettering O'Kanes second. That's the problem with being negative most of the time - an ambiguous statement is always going to be automatically taken the wrong way! Just a pity you only saw those goals on the tv replays as you would have got your money's worth on Saturday! Nice to see Eunan deservedly make the team of the week!  |
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Post by chelstongull on Nov 22, 2011 19:08:33 GMT
Just watching the Argyle on ESPN - its good to see that despite the shite they are in they travelled up yesterday.
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Post by Jon on Nov 22, 2011 23:22:18 GMT
I don't think Fletcher is the man to keep them up though. He and Larrieu got the caretaker job in a bit of strike-busting divide and rule. I was shocked when they were confirmed in the job after the takeover - on the back of a time honoured dead cat bounce. Fletcher is earning a fortune - a Championship player on a Championship wage. Burdening him with a job he can't do not only leaves you with a rubbish manager, it robs you of your best player - as I'm sure his on the field performances have suffered and will suffer enormously. More proof of that tonight. 1-0 down away from home, down to ten men, 25 minutes to go and he takes himself (the team's best and most experienced player) off to be replaced by a 17 year old. Why? Yet another sending-off shows the shocking indiscipline at the club - hardly surprising when the manager is as guilty of indiscipline as anyone. That reminds me of a funny incident from Saturday. Why did Rene Howe break up the fight between the two 18 year old centre backs? He could have had great fun playing out the rest of the game against nine men. How many people remember the two Hartlepool lads getting sent off for scrapping with each other at Plainmoor c.1982? Another thing I forgot to mention was the announcing of Bristol Rovers losing at home to Barnet at the end of the game on Saturday. This raised a big cheer from the Buckle haters, but how much of a dagger to the heart must that result have been to Argyle fans? Unfortunately, we know what is like to be struggling at the bottom and you tend to latch on to the names of two clubs which you hope and pray will be poor enough for you not to need anywhere near fifty points to survive. Surely Bradford and Northampton will pull themselves together sooner or later, so in Argyle's place I would be counting on Dagenham and Barnet. I certainly would not want to hear of one of them picking up away wins. |
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