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Post by keyberrygull on Jan 9, 2011 12:48:52 GMT
Got to agree with you Meerkat, the Ref was that bad I could have sworn he was delibrately cheating! He got panned big time by the crowd at the end and deservedly so, that was the same mug that we had in the conference and he was just as bad then, just how he got promoted to the league I just don`t know. If we had lost that because of him I recon he wouldn`t have got out of the car park in one piece, he would have been found swinging from the big tree outside the school! I didn't think that he had a very good game either and came across as arrogant. I always maintain that you never notice a good refereeing performance during a game, but only on reflection. A school teacher and referee with silver hair, a paunch, a face like thunder and according to this story, far too good to referee a small team like Torquay. www.birminghammail.net/news/birmingham-news/2008/07/03/birmingham-teacher-becomes-top-referee-97319-21221192/ |
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Post by Dave on Jan 9, 2011 12:56:31 GMT
I did not mention the ref to much in my match report; because there was so much to squeeze in as far as the match itself was concerned. I would not have got my report up until 12 am, if I had said all that could be said about the ref’s performance.
I had thought he had turned up wearing his new Mickey Mouse watch as the players were late taking to the field of play. I understand the delay was caused because two Carlisle players had the same number on their shirts. That seems a bit strange as I thought all players these days just had squad numbers and so one can only assume the person who puts the names and numbers on the shirts for Carlisle, made a mistake.
The ref certainly in my view, was guilty of giving Carlisle to many cheap free kicks outside of our box and he sure got conned on a number of occasions by the antics of one or two Carlisle players. One in the second half went down holding his head pretending Robo had nearly taken his head off. He soon got up when no foul was awarded to him.
Benyon was really clattered so hard and how the ref only talked to the Carlisle player and not shown him a yellow card I will never know.
Guy Branston committed one foul and it was hardly a foul in my book and he gets a yellow card. Its no wonder he was not happy and wanted to talk with the ref and point out not only was it is first foul of the game, but worse fouls committed by Carlisle players had gone unpunished.
Had we lost the game then I’m sure we would have been talking in more detail today about the refs performance, as it is we won and the good news is we can talk about who we want in round four, yes that’s round four of the FA CUP. Liverpool or Manchester United fans won’t be able to say that later today.
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Post by loyalgull on Jan 9, 2011 13:10:50 GMT
he was diabolical,but thankfully we marshalled our defence so well he didnt get the opportunity to give anything against us in the box,something he would of done given the opportunity,one incident amongst many involving him stood out for me,in the second half we were on the attack down the right flank,one of our players was clearly pushed strongly off the ball from behind he gave nothing,he was horrible,a complete tool,strutting around like king dick,thankfully he didnt destroy our day,the strangest and poorest referee at plainmoor for a while,but we have had some corkers at plainmoor havent we?
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Post by Jon on Jan 9, 2011 13:13:20 GMT
Branston ....... has been a revelation - going from being a pantomime villain by being boo'd doing a half time draw by some half-wits (possibly a stick to beat Bucks with as Hargreaves was on his way-out?) to being someone that I consider to be a talisman The logic of the Buckle-out know-it-alls was: 1. Branston is useless full stop 2. Robbo is useless at right back, but is a brilliant centre back 3. Mansell is useless in midfield, but is a brilliant right back 4. Only an idiot like Buckle would sign Branston Not only was Branston superb yesterday, but Robbo was solid as a rock at right back and Mansell's ferocious work-rate was a key factor in us winning the midfield. We look a far more solid unit (as several here said before the game) with Robbo and Manse in those positions. |
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Post by chrish on Jan 9, 2011 13:31:47 GMT
4-4-2  I'm going to buy a nice sharp pitchfork  |
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Post by chrish on Jan 9, 2011 13:49:12 GMT
Branston ....... has been a revelation - going from being a pantomime villain by being boo'd doing a half time draw by some half-wits (possibly a stick to beat Bucks with as Hargreaves was on his way-out?) to being someone that I consider to be a talisman The logic of the Buckle-out know-it-alls was: 1. Branston is useless full stop 2. Robbo is useless at right back, but is a brilliant centre back 3. Mansell is useless in midfield, but is a brilliant right back 4. Only an idiot like Buckle would sign Branston Not only was Branston superb yesterday, but Robbo was solid as a rock at right back and Mansell's ferocious work-rate was a key factor in us winning the midfield. We look a far more solid unit (as several here said before the game) with Robbo and Manse in those positions. Life has been a bit harsh on Robbo since Oastler signed. It's not as though he was doing a lot wrong before losing his place but Oastler took Mansells role in midfield and then Mansell took Robbo's place. He looks a bit sluggish against the really tricky wingers but he also gives us a bit more height. |
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Post by aussie on Jan 9, 2011 17:11:26 GMT
4-4-2 I'm going to buy a nice sharp pitchfork  |
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Post by Dave on Jan 9, 2011 17:49:35 GMT
Due to the excitement of writing my match report, having to put up the match day pictures from the club along with getting our TFF pages “ View from the forum” up, I forgot to bring you the other important score line from the Marldon versus W.B.B played at that famous venue Armada Park Torquay. The good news from my point of view seeing I was not there and have been credited with their recent fine winning run just because I was there watching them, they won the game four goals to one, with one of our lesser known TFF members being on the score sheet as expected. My garage I rent to keep my car in must be about 300 yards from my home and as I got to it yesterday, I was in such bright sunshine and in a way was a bit disappointed I was not going to Ants game. Only because for the last few games I have been struggling to get good action shots in very low light and yesterday’s bright afternoon sun would have been perfect for me to get the shutters speed up and the film speed down. I was looking for a game to go and watch this afternoon and was hoping Ants team the Plainmoor Ladies would be playing. They were as it turns out but away to Bideford and I just did not fancy the drive all the way up there just to take some pictures. The Bay Ladies had a game at Clennon Valley but I could not find out if it was going ahead or not and so had to be content to watch that rather boring game between Manchester United and Liverpool. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 20:29:50 GMT
Robbo was solid as a rock at right back and Mansell's ferocious work-rate was a key factor in us winning the midfield. We look a far more solid unit (as several here said before the game) with Robbo and Manse in those positions. The versatility of both Robertson and Mansell is important to the squad but, conversely, where to play each has often been something of a conundrum (and don't forget they are our longest-serving players). It struck me that, settling them back into right-back and central midfield respectively, was key to the improved results at the end of last season (along with the restoration of Nicholson). Sounds simple, doesn't it: always put players in the positions where they most benefit the team (which may, or may not be, their own best positions in theory). Ah, but we’d previously contended that Robertson had been indifferent at right-back and Mansell likewise in midfield (as I’m sure we had when they'd played at centre-back and right-back respectively). Isn't football strangely cyclical and hard to fathom sometimes? What's it all about? |
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Post by chrish on Jan 9, 2011 21:37:59 GMT
Robbo was solid as a rock at right back and Mansell's ferocious work-rate was a key factor in us winning the midfield. We look a far more solid unit (as several here said before the game) with Robbo and Manse in those positions. Isn't football strangely cyclical and hard to fathom sometimes? What's it all about? Confuses the hell out of me sometimes but I'm very glad we won! |
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Jan 9, 2011 23:15:12 GMT
Ah, but we’d previously contended that Robertson had been indifferent at right-back and Mansell likewise in midfield (as I’m sure we had when they'd played at centre-back and right-back respectively). Isn't football strangely cyclical and hard to fathom sometimes? What's it all about? Speak for yourself ;D Ive always said Mansell should be in CM because when he's not, we look too lightweight and invariably lose the midfield battle. If we can come up with a suitable replacement then fair enough but we have tried 4 other players there in the last season and a half, none of which have had the necessary 90 minute box to box engine coupled with the battling spirit. Lathrope may develop into that role but I think that will be a while away yet. Robbo however, in the last 10 months has gone from looking quite uncomfortable at RB, to being a quite solid defensive fullback. The only time he looks at all troubled is when hes got a pacy left winger to keep under control. Lets face it though, most fullbacks in this division dont fancy a speedy winger running at them. One of the problems of having what is, effectivley, an 18 man first team squad, that you are going to have to play people out of their best positions due to injury/suspension etc. Weve been pretty lucky so far with that to be honest and hopefully we will stay lucky  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 1:16:46 GMT
One of the problems of having what is, effectively, an 18 man first team squad, that you are going to have to play people out of their best positions due to injury/suspension etc. Indeed. Maybe too, in a smallish squad, there's a good advantage to be gained if some players are sufficiently versatile and - whilst acknowledging where they are best (with your point about Mansell's force in midfield to the fore) - I think both Mansell and Robertson can hold their own in four positions between them in this league. And, with variety in the tactical systems employed (in turn employing players such as Zebroski and O'Kane in different ways), it's almost as if we're expanding the options beyond those normally offered by a squad of a certain size. That might not always work but in the great "rigidity v flexibility" debate I'm on the side of flexibility and tactical innovation (albeit prone to defaulting to 4-4-2 when pissed off). One thing which struck me on Saturday was that, because we're in different leagues, Carlisle would have almost certainly scouted us in recent weeks only. You imagine that - for whatever reason - what they ended up facing would have been utterly different to what the scout would have reported. A masterstroke or circumstance? |
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