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Post by chrish on Aug 16, 2010 19:12:23 GMT
He isn`t moving to Swansea. The Mumbles instead then?
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Post by chrish on Aug 16, 2010 19:14:59 GMT
Blimey - I am not sure Benyon is a championship striker but he is improving all the time and is light years a better player than he was a year ago. I think that he would better off staying at Torquay for another year but then of course we won't get anything for him so if we seem to have little choice but to accept a decent bid for him if one arises. Mind you if Rendell is worth 125k then I would not be selling Benyon for anything under 200k because he is a far bettre player. I don't think you can compare Rendell to Benyon. They are such different players. On a side note I see Mike Williamson is making his Premier League debut for Newcastle tonight.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Aug 16, 2010 20:10:26 GMT
I think that is an excellent example of how to move forward and a realistic model for a club with a progressive board, coaching set-up and general ethos to progress.
If you consider that Exeter have sold Billy Jones (later re-signed on a free!), George Friend and Danny Seabourne (just off the top of my head) they have used the money to augment the team and carry-on moving forward. Players such as Duffy and Golborne have been real coups for them.
I think if you project an image of bering a club that can help young players (either from the youth team or other players that have slightly lost their way) then players (and their agents) will see that club as a good option to progress their careers. This benefits both them and the club with their progress and this is very much in the same way that Crewe have done over the last few decades (although they have somewhat lost their way in the last few years).
If Benyon was to leave I wouldn't expect to see a ready made replacement who has scored 15 goals last season at League 2 come-in as a direct replacement. I would expect that Kee will certainly feature more and there would be another arrival - not necessarily an out-and-out finisher like Benyon is, perhaps a bustling striker - perhaps even Zebs up-front and Carlisle on the wing.
In terms of whether Benyon would be ready for the Championship - I don't think so just yet - perhaps it would be a step to far. He has improved incredibly - his agression is more channelled (except for the tackle when returning from treatment against Reading!), his awareness has improved and he has become more ruthless. His two headed goals on Saturday also show that height and muscle bulk isn't everything!
Swansea have also apparently made enquiries into a striker from Watford and taken a striker on trial from Dundee United. I would hope that we could get more than £100k for him and a sell-on clause, but the end of his contract is in 9 months - I think if it is clear that Benyon wants to move-on and makes it clear then this is as reasonable price, although I would expect any final price to remain undisclosed.
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Post by rjdgull on Aug 16, 2010 20:34:21 GMT
Just to make clear, Benyon will be 23 at the end of this month and thus still under 24 when his current contract is due to expire.
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Post by stuartB on Aug 16, 2010 20:54:17 GMT
He isn`t moving to Swansea. The Mumbles instead then? speak up, I can't hear you ;D
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Post by stuartB on Aug 16, 2010 20:58:21 GMT
I believed that the previous Swansea manager was a fan of Benyon not the current incumbent.
At the time, I believe, Elliot did not want to move away. he loves this club and the area.
Paul Buckle has a good group pf lads and a good atmosphere and bond. Rendell did not want to leave and spent his summer on holiday with other Torquay players and was desperate to stay in Torbay.
It might be difficult to get players down but when they get here, they tend to want to stay.
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Post by jmgull on Aug 16, 2010 22:03:45 GMT
Not sure a run of a dozen or so good games will quite be enough to start talking six figures for Benyon yet.
If he continues in this vein of form then it's a fair bet he'll be gone xmas time and for a nice fee too.
I was, along with merse perhaps one of his harshest critics......no doubt at all though Benyon really has improved all aspects of his game but the magic ingredients that he has finally picked up is anticipation and finding space in the box - and its what sorts out a player that can score at a higher level......
This was perfectly illustrated at Lincoln with his second goal......he played Zebroski in down the right wing and ran into the box to get on the end of the cross, Benyon of last year would have definitely bombed to the crowded near post........instead he looked up and anticipated a deeper cross from Zeb and is in acres of space to head home a simple but classic goal.
........seeing one of our lads come through like this, has been one of the many pleasures following the gulls, since we became a proper football club again.
Elliott is destined for better things and has finally rewarded the faith shown in him by the manager.
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Post by Dave on Aug 16, 2010 22:22:40 GMT
Had a chat for an hour with Aussie on the phone tonight and he is going to be a much happier bunny on here from now and while we don't do these rumour threads on here normally , as this one has had over two thousand pages views today, can we start a new rumour thread tomorrow please
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Post by stefano on Aug 16, 2010 22:25:53 GMT
Had a chat for an hour with Aussie on the phone tonight and he is going to be a much happier bunny on here from now and while we don't do these rumour threads on here normally , as this one has had over two and a half thousand pages views today, can we start a new rumour thread tomorrow please Aussie going to be happier? .... I thought you weren't into spreading rumours Dave! ;D
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Post by Dave on Aug 16, 2010 22:51:17 GMT
Had a chat for an hour with Aussie on the phone tonight and he is going to be a much happier bunny on here from now and while we don't do these rumour threads on here normally , as this one has had over two and a half thousand pages views today, can we start a new rumour thread tomorrow please Aussie going to be happier? .... I thought you weren't into spreading rumours Dave! ;D I'm not and it was more of a crash coarse in the art of debating and I must say Aussie sure is a good pupil who listened intently and even managed to get a word or two in himself while I took the odd breath of air
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Post by Budleigh on Aug 17, 2010 7:35:08 GMT
Would that make this one of Aussie's mass debates?
(I know, I know.. purile schoolboy humour that Dave will no doubt have expunged in the name of decency!)
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Post by glostergull on Aug 17, 2010 9:14:31 GMT
I do hope this is not true. We get many rumours about who is joining and leaving but this one at this stage of the season would leave us more than a little short in the goal scoring department as we could not possibly find a replacement in before the window closes. The points would be sorely missed. I know we have one of the meanest defences in the league but without goals we cannot survive at any level. Surely if a deal had to be done then he should remain effectivley on loan untill the next transfer window so we can find another proven goal scorer. Bristol Rovers Lost their talent in Lambert at the biginning of last season for a huge fee but he has never been effectivley replaced and they have suffered as a result not the least in the loss of gates as fans have not increased as would have happened if they have done a lot better. It sounds like we have been offered a small fee in comparison and this does not in any way compensate us for the loss of a guy who is now really coming good. Our gates are way lower than Rovers and I would have thought that if a chapionship club valued a league 2 striker as being good enough for their level then they should compensate us to a much larger extent as it would take away our main source of goals. I can't think of anyone we could attract who would fit the bill with possibly the exception of Roseinior junior who is without a club at the moment. besides he would be out of our pocket and is really meant to be talking to quite a few championship clubs.
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Post by pappy on Aug 17, 2010 9:31:29 GMT
He isn`t moving to Swansea. The Mumbles instead then? I dont get it Chris. Anyways, I don`t think he`ll move now.
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Post by hector on Aug 17, 2010 12:10:36 GMT
I have never been a big fan of Benyon, although I do concede he has much improved over recent months. However, I have often felt that - certainly away - he would get shoved off the ball all too easily and 'defending from the front' was not something he was able to do especially well. However, he has improved and has made a good start to the season. Yet, if we could get a healthy six figure amount for him, I would be delighted. I feel with Kee and Zebroski we still have two forwards capable of getting goals and if rumours about Logan are true, well, he seems to pop up with vital goals quite frequently for Exeter and I liked him when he was here under McFarland. I think Logan would be a useful signing.
As for any transfer fee being reinvested in the team...well, it's not likely really. If the whole amount was blown on say 4 players, well, then the money has been spent. Plus there would be 4 x the wages to pay rather than the one set on Benyon.
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Post by timbo on Aug 17, 2010 12:14:14 GMT
The Mumbles instead then? I dont get it Chris. Mumbles or The Mumbles – Welsh: Y Mwmbwls is an area and community in Swansea, Wales which takes its name from the adjacent headland stretching into Swansea Bay. The area includes the ruin of Oystermouth Castle and the Mumbles Lighthouse, and is made up of the Mayals, Newton, Oystermouth and West Cross electoral wards, and has an elected community council.
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