FL2: Bury v. Torquay 1st May 2010

Thanks for your report wigstongull68

Can’t make any real comments on the match itself as I did not take a radio with me this afternoon when I went and watched Ant play. I could not believe we won away again by the same score line as we did against Grimsby, both these games were against teams that really had something to play for and yet we have not just won these games we have done so by scoring three goals in each game and conceding none.

I really don’t know the answers as to why he are now playing what would be seen as promotional form, where we really close to it anyway as no team has ever rolled us over this season and we were losing games by the odd goal. Our problems were we did not take our chances and then let in late goals that saw the points go to the other team.

Some fans will say its because we played Nico and Muzzy and put Mansell back in the midfield, but both Nico and Muzzy were not making the team and we all know the reasons why that was the case and it has to be so much more than just two players getting a chance again and taking them.

I know you don’t get such results without a good dressing room and players happy to play for their manager and so Paul Buckle is due real praise for the way he once again turned things around and got the job that was required of him done and as it turns out in some style when it really mattered.

I have been proud of most of the TFF members this season, nearly all kept believing in the team and supported Paul Buckle and that support and also never just giving up has now paid all the dividends

What is a bit sad is the match threads for these great results have not had the posts made on them to reflect the great results they have been , its true it’s the games we might have lost we were expected to win that seem to get the most posts on them. It’s a case that some can only post when we are losing.

Still at least we are not having to read some of the rubbish that does get posted by those knee jerker fans who had us going back to the BSP before we even played one of the very tough looking games we had to play in April.

It’s a good job Paul Buckle and our players never gave up, never stopped believing they were better than our league position showed, I suppose it is what makes some people winners and others losers, but I could never understand how anyone could have ever giving up while there was so much still to play for and still a chance to save our league status.

Amazing isn`t it, as I have stated on another thread the average age of the squad is under 24 and it has taken alot of time and patience for them to gel together and for the manager to have the patience and belief in what he witnesses at training every day would suggest that he has got it right! Do you hide sharp objects away from yourself on match days? Do you actually know anything about football and bringing youngsters through the ranks, we are not a mega rich club that can play cheque book football so we have to develope younger players, given the lack of transfer action in the closed season due to the extended season last year and a bit of rotten luck during the January window, I think that PB has managed to do a miraculous job and shoved it up all of your darksider arses magnificently!

Never said it was all down to Bucks, a lot of it is down to the players gelling together finally, I won`t say this again as I`m getting sick of repeating myself, the average age of the squad is under 24 and it has taken a while for them to get it right together, the manager has seen this in training and has persevered with what he`s got to work with and that is a very young squad of very good players, the maturation of the squad is now evident or do you think we fluked the last 6 results?

Dave - whatever point you are trying to make you ruin your arguement with phrases like "Apparently Buckle deserves all the credit when we win but none of the blame when we lose". If you were here you would know how worried fans were a month or so ago and many of us doubted whether or not PB was the right person to be in charge for what looked the most daunting run-in of all teams nearb the bottom of the table. However, whilst you continue to refer to the last six or seven games, the fact is that we have only lost twice in the last fifteen games, picking up 29 points during that period and all concerned, including PB, deserve credit for that transformation.

The problem I continue to have with your posts is that you do not seem willing, or able, to recongise the fact that recent results have been achieved with, as Aussie points out, a very young squad (even the paper boy got on the score sheet yeaterday)

Mica my post was not aimed at you as such, mostly at all the fans who have been so negative for most of this season and have been more than happy to post when things have not gone well for the team and more importantly Paul Buckle and have failed to come back and post when praise has been due.

My reference to being a winner was not about Paul Buckle, it was aimed that the very negative people as I believe such people will never be winners at anything they do as they are far more likely to give up halfway through.

But I suppose Paul Buckle should be considered a winner, as he has once again crossed the finishing line and has achieved what was asked of him. Does the F1 world champion win every single race he enters? No of coarse not and he will lose races and some he may not even finish in, but what makes a winner is the attitude never to give up keep trying to cross the finishing line first.

But even with an F1 driver it won’t always come down to just how good the driver might be and how much will he has to be the winner in every race he enters, things such as the money his team can put into the team, the car itself and the quality of all the staff such as mechanics etc all play such a big an important part of any success out on the track.

It’s no different at any football club and all managers will find their job will be easier at some clubs than others and like it or not money and the resources will always give a half decent manager a head start. At the end of the day it will always come down to results on the pitch and each manager and every manager will therefore move on to better things for end up on the managers scrape heap.

If you judge Paul Buckles results and achievements over the three seasons he as been a manager, then it only points to a winning manager who will one day move on up the management ladder and when that does happen I believe it will be a big lose to our club.

I'm afraid its inevitable that the Paul Buckle critics have to voice and reiterate their argument and try and justify themselves - as groundless as some of their opinions are.
All us "Rosies" were, of course concerned with our form and some of the decisions but thankfully the majority stuck with it when the going got tough and continued to support the team manager and club without throwing our toys out of the pram at every opportunity
The howls of derision and abuse from a shortsighted minority were thankfully silenced by hard work, good coaching and man management and some fantastic team performances.
My only worry is is that it will no have gone unnoticed further up the ladder and we will inevitably lose our better players and manager if this form is continued into next season, much to the delight of a minority no doubt.