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Post by Dave on Jan 27, 2009 23:51:42 GMT
Thanks Rob, you go get some sleep mate.
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Post by bbcgull on Jan 28, 2009 0:11:02 GMT
never a plummer when you want one...
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Post by merse on Jan 28, 2009 5:58:04 GMT
The never ending scenario of visiting a club intent on merely not getting beaten at home - even at one nil down with an hour to go Lewes were conceding most of the midfield when not in possession and ranking up two lines of eight behind the ball on the edge of their penalty area. On a pudding like pitch with a fresh divot turning up with every challenge, this was never going to be a game of massive entertainment. Whilst much was made on here earlier about the "experience" of Lewes' back four (Barness, Cullipp and Butters - who in the event again failed to appear for the Rooks) the fact was that they lacked any semblance of pace and that the only dangerous players in their lineup were a trio of loanees from Bristol Rovers and Barnet (2) of which the magnificently named Keiron Minto-St Aimie stood out a as a player of singular top rate potential amongst them and a player of rare touch, talent and balance at this level..................rather like Matt Green is I venture! St Aimie is on loan from Barnet, who I feel have done very well to pick him up from Fulham; and he is representative of the multitude of young players well schooled in the finer points of the game that I am beginning to see regularly from accompanying my son to his coaching and games in London. Any similarity between him and some of his rather bereft and sadly lacking in confidence team mates was, I'm afraid; purely coincidental and sitting where I was in front of the radio and press contingent and behind the technical areas; I'm afraid Lewes appeared poorly coached and led from a clueless management team who contributed to their own down fall for the first goal with a rather "naive" piece of touchline advice which belied their preoccupation with Sills at the free kick and thus were ill prepared for Nicho's deadly strike.................every one in the game knows how dangerous and how prolific his re-starts are don't they? Not Lewes' Kevin Keehan it seems! I thought his wonderfully drilled "Exocet" deserved goal accreditation, but it seems it's going to Thommo................."first goal scorer for Torquay United no 12 - Tyrone Thompson" - Thompson my arse, well his arse let's say! No doubting the identity of the second scorer though nor the provider...............another Nicho free kick (hello, Mr Keehan have you cottoned on yet?) and a trade mark Dsane finish with Sillsy first in the queue behind him in case he missed the ball. A comfortable, functional win and no doubting the attacking and passing intentions of the manager and team with plenty of width and possession from the 4-4-1-1 formation as Thompson lined up behind Sills in the familiar and regularly successfull away day formation. Robertson and especially Adams put in "drop me if you dare" performances.....................in fact I thought that on that surface Adams was quite exceptional and worthy of any "man of the match" awards that I would have handed out. Thompson's high energy and rather more physical game needs regular use if it is to be at it's most effective whilst on the other hand big central defenders merely do what big central defenders do and Adams isn't known as "The Ghost" by his team mates for nothing with his rather unique (amongst this squad) talent for "disappearing" and then making himself available for the killer pass (and delivering it!) so valuable in a game like this where the opposition just endlessly funnelled back retreating and and cutting out room on the edge of their box. I've been tipped that the player we are talking to is the type who would "transform our season", so the million dollar question has to be asked "is he that good or that bad?" Rather a "Stuart Beavon" than a "Jodie Banim" then..................and yes; I did feel on that surface with that formation, leaving Green out was the right decision on the night - a night for selling platers rather than thoroughbreds I would say! Footnote: sitting in a nice new stand complete with a vivid red neon strip running along the fascia, made me feel like one of those old tarts in the windows of Amsterdam................in sleepy old Lewes no less!
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on Jan 28, 2009 9:50:50 GMT
Morning gentlemen. I’ll stick to my usual plan of not reading anything in this thread before I write my thoughts about the game.
As anyone who has read the Lewes FC thread in the Ground Reviews section will know, I’ve been really looking forward to this game for quite some time. And I wasn’t disappointed. I’ve been to the magnificent Old Trafford; I’ve watched my beloved Gulls with the jaw-dropping backdrop of Wembley Stadium; and I’ve stood in the highest point of the 80,000-seater Giants Stadium gazing across the spectacular New York skyline.
But The Dripping Pan is quite probably my favourite.
Everything about it is just so, well, quaint. The small stands at either end of the pitch keep the fans compacted providing a much better atmosphere. The stylish, modern stand on the dugout side looked like something out of a sci-fi movie and seats a generous number of fans. And opposite this stand is a raised grass bank which provides some lovely views of the pitch below. This was also the setting of Paul Bastard’s hilarious dash to join us in the stand that housed the Gulls fans in the first half.
The game itself wasn’t brilliant. Torquay dominated the first 10 minutes and you could tell straight away that the three points were there for the taking. It was simply a case of sticking the ball in the back of the net. Lewes’ left-back was absolutely shocking and Carlisle tore him to shreds in the first half. I was impressed that the team in white managed to keep to a slick passing game, despite the horrendous state of the playing surface.
A frustrating first half ended with a Nicholson pile-driver that flew into the bottom corner via Thompson’s perfectly positioned backside. Thommo will claim it, but Nicho will take all the plaudits.
The Gulls migrated west for the second half and nestled in with the minimal amount of Lewes fans who, it has to be said, were great banter. On the pitch, it was a mediocre second half brightened only by Nicholson’s deadly free kick which was neatly tucked home by DSane.
There were noticeable performances from the returning Robertson and Adams, who played like they wanted to be in the side; and every time Nicholson received the ball out wide, his left foot was whipping in crosses that caused their rather shaky keeper problems all night long.
But my Man of the Match goes to our big number 9. Sills put in a true workhorse performance, putting himself about and even pulling out the backheels and pirouette turns. Two difficult headers - one wide to the right, the other wide to the left - were followed by his simplest chance which, had she been watching, would have had Sandra Redknapp hanging her head in shame. Other than this though, he was superb.
Lewes, in turn, were dreadful. When my Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelsea supporting friends go on about the Sunday League standard of the Conference, I know full well that they don’t know what they’re talking about. However, teams like Lewes don’t help my argument. Aside from their big number 22 (who had a great name that I’m not going to even attempt to spell), they looked like a team with zero confidence. They only created two chances the whole game and both times the ball was struck with all the tenacity and finesse that you’d expect from a team that hasn’t scored in several weeks.
Quick player ratings (out of 10):
Bevan 7 – Didn’t really have a lot to do. But when he did, he did it well. Robertson 7.5 – He wants his place back and it showed. Woods 6.5 – Typical solid performance. Nicholson 8 – Superb and, ultimately, lethal. Mansell 6.5 – Did his job. Carlisle 6.5 – Delivery wasn’t great but a decent performance. Adams 7.5 – Clearly enjoyed being back in the team. Every pass goes sideways which can frustrate but he retained possession well. Thompson 7 – Lively. I like this player a lot. DSane 7.5 – Gave the Lewes right back a torrid night. Hargreaves 7 – Typical performance, didn’t misplace one pass all night. Sills 9 – Superb, deserved a goal. My only annoyance is that he drifts wide too often, which can work against us in the lone-striker formation.
And for the record:
Hot dog 8.5 Chips 9.5
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Post by joebarlow on Jan 28, 2009 12:52:24 GMT
Not the best of games to watch but still it was worthwhile going to watch the Gulls get 3 points. A good jounrey up in `Sams` magnificent sports car which had all the trimmings ;D
The ground itself was a nice little ground to visit. It had one open end which Torquay fans were stood in for the 1st half. Paul Bastard ran had to run around the whole gorund to get to stand with us and recieved a rousing ovation from the fans.
The game wasnt the best, I though Adams played well considering he hasnt played in a while. Sils was good and ahd a few opputunities to get a couple of goals.
D`Sane played good though sometimes was in the wrong position when recieving the ball, e.g he was out wide when he got the ball when maybe he should have been in the box, and maybe he should have been a little deper at times but other than that a good game and well runned for the second goal, as he had a defender on his back and the keeper was at his feet.
At the back of Torquays defence Woods was as always good, talked to the other defenders ad was the leader. Robbo played well, fed the midfield some good passes and got a few attacks started. Mansell put in a good game, sending in a fe wcrosses.
Carlisle I was that totally made up, he put in a decent performance but somtimes he went the wrong way with the ball. Mansell put in a cross and it went to Carlisles feet in the corner of the box and he taken it straight back out of the box towards the corner when maybe he could have passed it to someone who could shoot or have a pop himself.
The Torquay fans were good as well, we couldnt relly create an atmosphere in the 1st half due to the stand having no roof and a grand total of 558 people showed up to the game. Thoguh I think the Lewes fans heard us.
The 2nd half we decided to take the stand that held mostly Lewes fans and the banter was great, a few chants of "Were the home fans, were the homes fans, were the home fans over here" was followe by "Were the away fans etc." a few coruses of `We`ll meet again` by the Lewes fans. The Torquay fans had a bit of fun with a bouncy ball and a laugh with with the keeper Bancks though I dont get why we started call him Margerine or Marge.
The food was good I like the cheeseburger it was atcually good and better than what I thought it would be. The chips were alright, although it was made better by the fact I got a free bag of chips from the van due to them being the last of the chips. The prices for the food was a little on the high side but I guess all football grounds price thier food on the high side.
The social club afterwards was good, Lewes fans congratulates us on a well deserved win and said they like to have a banter with us. The club was small but I guess thats due to Lewes being a smaller club.
The jounrey back was good, quite a bit of fog was on the roads, though we didnt have any problems other than that.
Thanks to Sam for giving me a lift and hope to go to a few more matches with him.
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Post by buster on Jan 28, 2009 13:04:04 GMT
Exactly the result I was looking for. Well done to the players & PB. As has already been said this is the type of game we struggled with last season. Its easy to raise your game against "big" guns, not so easy on a night like last night as Wrexham will testify.
If we can grind out results in February and maybe chip a few points back on Burton then hit real form in March & April who knows. I had written off the title but if we win the 3 in hand we are 10 behind with Burton to play twice.
nothing like a win to get you dreaming.
buster
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Post by englebert on Jan 28, 2009 13:11:42 GMT
As i said to DEGP last night, i don't think i've ever watched a game where 1-0 looked so comfortable. The second was always going to come, it was just a matter of when. Its just a shame that the Torquay boys lacked the killer instinct, which is something to improve on when one of the better teams puts up a better fight...
Fair play to the crop of Lewes fans who stayed in the same end in the second half, good banter!
Shame about the massive queue for the main food vendor. I noted severe lack of rain protection, but lack of information on the 'back up' burger bar played into my hands: there was no queue. Temporary speechlessness overcame me when i saw the "No burgers" sign, but the hot dog and chips shamed many of the big clubs' offerings.
Anyway, that was my 4th Torquay game (all away), will look forward to my next.
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Post by treetopsringwood on Jan 28, 2009 19:46:07 GMT
A relatively easy journey for me of 45 minutes down the A24/A23 from Dorking and my first return to a ground where I had the 'honour' of a FA appointment as an official to a FA cup qualifying round back in the late eighties. Parking last night was a nightmare & eventually found a place about a mile away. I took my sat nav in my pocket to find my car again !
Those listening to the radio etc obviously experienced what we have most Saturdays living 200 miles away!
Lewes gave a poor showing, being unable to control the ball after the first touch and often took the easier, safer option of kicking for touch. The Gulls were prominent in possession and played the ball around,across and through the channels and thankfully had the lucky break to score.
Chatting to various Gulls supporters around me I was interested to see from where they had travelled to the game; St Albans, Guildford, a student from Brighton University who came from Modbury and Clapham Gull who works in S.London
An enjoyable evening with Sills missing a couple but was pleased with the encouragement given to him directly after each attempt by those around me. Singing & banter was good in the second half but feel sorry for the situation that Lewis find themselves in and didn't think that Keegan (Lewis manager) deserved the vociferous reaction of some of his teams supporters at the end.
Hope all those that travelled arrived 'home' safely.(I also did once I found my car!)
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Post by Dave on Jan 28, 2009 19:52:33 GMT
treetopsringwood, fancy having to use your sat nav to find your car, that made me laugh many of the Capital gulls would have gone to the match, did you not get to meet the famous Merse
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Post by joebarlow on Jan 28, 2009 19:57:24 GMT
I met the famous Merse after the match and offered him a pint but he turned it down due to him driving home.
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Post by treetopsringwood on Jan 28, 2009 20:14:53 GMT
Unfortunately not,as by the time that I entered the ground and found the clubhouse the bar had just shut ( closes 15 mins before ko due to licensing regs!! what madness !) Living in the Wimbledon area for previous 35 years and working an intensive shift system I haven't been able to meet up with the Capital gulls. Many a time in the past at Fulham, Reading Wimbledon & Leyton Orient I thought I was the only supporter. Whilst at the local college in the seventies we where 'trained' each Weds afternoon by a Plainmoor favourite, Jimmy Dunne after he had been transferred to Fulham ( who remembers him?)
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Post by chrish on Jan 28, 2009 20:47:30 GMT
I have to say that I really enjoyed last night's match at The Dripping Pan. Lewes reminds me a little bit of Totnes. Solid stone houses, narrow streets and no parking at all! After driving down to the bottom of the road my heart sank to see the leisure centre car park completely full so I parked up on double yellows against the wall that flanked one side of the ground.
What a lovely little ground though. One grass bank, one steep stand covered with a Don Valley stadium type roof, one small uncovered away stand carved into the rock and one side with more neon than the Las Vegas strip. The clubhouse was lovely and served a decent pint and the food available (and the variety) was excellent. In the end I went for the WeightWatchers option of Chilli and Chips.
The game itself was a drab affair, the first half especially. Sills was excellent but I kept asking myself what he was doing on the right wing. Thompson was a mixed bag. Often clever in possession, but equally poor in decision making and linking up with others. Dsane worked his jaffas off for little reward. Adams and Hargreaves had good games, Adams especially. Robertson slotted into defence looking like he'd never been away.
We switched ends in the second half mainly because it was starting to get a bit parky and bleak in the isolated away end. I found the atmosphere amongst the both sets of supporters was excellent. Lots of banter. Absolutely no niggle and lots of laughs to be had. It's only really my 2nd experience of watching a league match without segregation and it was a much nicer one than down the road at Eastbourne where I got the impression that most were petty knobheads.
All in all an average peformance on a poor pitch, but its three valuable points considering the other results and its a ground I would love to go back to again one day.
Does anybody know the story behind the weirdo in the clubhouse with the mini electronic jumbotron badge with "select" on it? Very bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2009 7:27:37 GMT
As anyone who has read the Lewes FC thread in the Ground Reviews section will know, I’ve been really looking forward to this game for quite some time. And I wasn’t disappointed. I’ve been to the magnificent Old Trafford; I’ve watched my beloved Gulls with the jaw-dropping backdrop of Wembley Stadium; and I’ve stood in the highest point of the 80,000-seater Giants Stadium gazing across the spectacular New York skyline. But The Dripping Pan is quite probably my favourite. Everything about it is just so, well, quaint. The small stands at either end of the pitch keep the fans compacted providing a much better atmosphere. The stylish, modern stand on the dugout side looked like something out of a sci-fi movie and seats a generous number of fans. And opposite this stand is a raised grass bank which provides some lovely views of the pitch below. This was also the setting of Paul Bastard’s hilarious dash to join us in the stand that housed the Gulls fans in the first half. I too loved the Dripping Pan and how some of the older features - such as the raised bank and clubhouse - have been retained alongside the new. I'm assuming Paul Bastard took a wrong turning inside the ground upon arriving fifteen minutes into the game. However, when I first noticed him, his postion was consistent with having just illegally scaled a twelve foot high wall. The way he sprinted around virtually the whole pitch perimeter suggested he's capable of vaulting such an obstacle unaided. Merse mentioned the soft pitch. After a day walking on the Downs I can certainly vouch for the softness of the terrain - I arrived covered in all sorts of farmyard substances (and in complete agony) after a walk that had started at the site of Brighton and Hove Albion's new ground at Falmer. Work started last month - next to Brighton University on the south side of the A27 - and is timed to be complete in 2011 (fifteen years after the demise of the Goldstone). As for Lewes FC it's a mystery how, after all those years of effort, they blew the whole thing up days after winning promotion (a bit like how the town burns effigies on Bonfire Night perhaps?). Maybe seeing them struggle at the foot of the league wasn't entirely unexpected - whatever the circumstances - but it's been compounded by the appointment of a manager with no pedigree (but plenty of attitude I suspect,). Over forty players used already and he's now getting them out of the Sussex County League. What a mess! And here's a challenge. The Dripping Pan is very close to the Greenwich Meridian (less than a mile away). Can anybody name English grounds which are closer to that line? I've not done the full research but I've one or two in mind (some mentioned in recent threads, others not).
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on Jan 29, 2009 8:43:33 GMT
As i said to DEGP last night, i don't think i've ever watched a game where 1-0 looked so comfortable. The second was always going to come, it was just a matter of when. Its just a shame that the Torquay boys lacked the killer instinct, which is something to improve on when one of the better teams puts up a better fight... Fair play to the crop of Lewes fans who stayed in the same end in the second half, good banter! Shame about the massive queue for the main food vendor. I noted severe lack of rain protection, but lack of information on the 'back up' burger bar played into my hands: there was no queue. Temporary speechlessness overcame me when i saw the "No burgers" sign, but the hot dog and chips shamed many of the big clubs' offerings. Anyway, that was my 4th Torquay game (all away), will look forward to my next. Welcome to the forum young man (It's DGEP, by the way, but feel free to call me Alex). It feels weird calling you that seeing as I talk to you every day and tend to use your real name... I had a feeling you might have written extensively about the food at The Dripping Pan. It was good though, wasn't it? I guess our next game will be away at Grays, provided we can get through the tunnel in time for kick off! We'll have to go down to Devon one weekend and I'll take you to Fortress Plainmoor. Mr. Downs, Lord Barton, Sir BD. Once again the ridiculous amount of wisdom, knowledge and wit crammed into your head blows me away. As for your challenge, I would have to say West Ham United. I seem to remember reading about their new stadium and how they wanted to build it so that the halfway line ran along the Greenwich Meridian.
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Post by chrish on Jan 29, 2009 10:31:55 GMT
Millwall must be pretty close to GMT!
Charlton as well.......
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