mike
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Post by mike on May 10, 2009 11:43:35 GMT
I notice Cambridge were up to 16.5k sales last night. 4.5k away from their entire allocation. And we have sold how many?? |
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Rob
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Post by Rob on May 10, 2009 11:57:28 GMT
5995 as of last night. Piss poor.
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wigstongull68
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Post by wigstongull68 on May 10, 2009 13:26:14 GMT
Fans don't win football games, our better players will do that. Anyway, the gulls fans can outsing any number on their day.
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Post by Dave on May 10, 2009 13:55:02 GMT
5995 as of last night. Piss poor. maybe you would like to reconsider your remarks that this forum had let itself down Rob? It is clear the concerns and fears about the result such ticket arrangements would have on the numbers of TUFC fans aired by Merse and many others were well justified. Yes I agree it may well have looked negative and at a time when we should all be singing and dancing that we are in the play-off final, but the low numbers of tickets sold to TUFC fans compared to Cambridge is very disappointing. Yes Cambridge fans had to buy their tickets in the same way, but we must not forget they are much closer to Wembley and I do believe many more would have traveled up from the Bay, if they could have got the tickets from the club and been able to choose where in Wembley those tickets would have been. There is still plenty of time for more to be sold, but we are not going to get close to the number Cambridge has sold, still I believe that will not effect our team on the day. Our players know how important the game is and while its always good to see as much support as possible at any game, they will remain focused on the game and trying to get the required result. |
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on May 10, 2009 14:36:12 GMT
If the game had been played at, say, The Madejski or Villa Park, we'd still have been charged £35-a-head and we'd still only half fill the stadium. Wembley is the home of football and whether there's 9,000 there or 90,000, it is an incredibly magical place to watch your favourite team. Maybe we should have just played it somewhere like Yeovil and had a "cracking" atmosphere...  |
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Post by jerry on May 10, 2009 14:48:27 GMT
Cambridge were always going to sell considerably more tickets than us. They have sold over 2,000 season tickets for next season with a similar offer to ours.
I reckon if we get 10,000 we will have done well in the circumstances.
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Post by merse on May 10, 2009 14:48:39 GMT
Yes I agree it may well have looked negative and at a time when we should all be singing and dancing that we are in the play-off final, but the low numbers of tickets sold to TUFC fans compared to Cambridge is very disappointing.  Bit there is nothing to sing and dance about is there? As I have stated before, this is NOT a cup final; this is hopefully the final stage of a mission that began at the beginning of LAST season. I don't want to see special suits, button holes, fans in silly hats and a carnival atmosphere. I want to see the same focus and determination that I saw in the dressing room at Histon last Monday, and I am more than happy to see it contrasting with the carnival atmosphere just down the road at the Shabbey where they were celebrating just NOTHING in the scheme of things. We can only justify a "carnival" if we succeed, if we fail it will be a wake. Reading the postings of the numpties on another site with their one liner obsessions about just getting to Wembley shows just where we are at regards not really having a clue about the very determination and hard nosed attitude that is needed to succeed in professional football. Are these juveniles who are so pleased to going back to Wembley for the fifth time in twenty completely divorced from the reality of the misery of defeat at this place?....................Wembley is no place for losers. It seems to be all about Wembley, rather than keeping focus. I'm not upset at not being in full control of just what seat my money buys me because the game is at Wembley, I'm upset because staging the game at Wembley is a large part of the cause of this problem. I'm big enough and old enough to realise that the reason we are struggling to sell a f4nny full of tickets is because this venue has just added to the very cost of just getting there, a cost that many just cannot afford; and this is the result. The gate for yesterday's Wembley Trophy final was just 27,000 ~ bloody hopeless and indicative of just how much people are struggling to finance following football in the recession.................I bet there were hardly any neutrals there like there used to be at these games because of the extortionate cost. Can't the old buffers who run this game see that? |
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Post by Dave on May 10, 2009 15:04:34 GMT
Merse I gave up reading any others forums as I feel I need to only concentrate on this one, so I do not know what is being posted on there.
Maybe I should not have put the line singing and dancing, but I did not state Wembley, only the play-off final. As I have already said on this thread it should only be about the game and what the result means, so I'm in 100% agreement with you on this one.
I see one post has said what a great place it is to watch your team and even tongue in cheek says maybe having the game at Yeovil would have helped to have a "cracking" atmosphere. I would much rather have the game there as I still maintain having it at Wembley is not really in the best interest of what we want to achieve.
Fans need to look at what is important and getting promotion is and having the final at Wembley will not help in anyway to our team getting the required result in my view.
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Post by jerry on May 10, 2009 15:08:04 GMT
Got to agree with you there Dave.
I'd fancy us to beat any side in this division over 2 legs, but you just never know at Wembley as it can affect different payers in different ways.
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Post by merse on May 10, 2009 15:41:07 GMT
If the game had been played at, say, The Madejski or Villa Park, we'd still have been charged £35-a-head and we'd still only half fill the stadium. Wembley is the home of football and whether there's 9,000 there or 90,000, it is an incredibly magical place to watch your favourite team. Magical my arse, it's only "magical" when it is full; and then only "magical" if you win. Would you enjoy a New Year's Eve party in Trafalgar Square if it was just you and few dozen friends? No, of course not. I've been to one of the Conference Finals at Stoke City (Donny Rovers v D&R) and T HAT was a special occasion despite the Daggers only managing to get a couple of thousand fans along, because Rovers took over thirty thousand and there were plenty of neutrals, it didn't cost an arm and a leg to either get there from any part of the country or to park (free) eat or drink. THAT is the difference. If you want to experience the "magic" of a half empty Wembley go on a bloody stadium tour, wear your Torquay top and pay out six quid for burger and chips like all the other idiots who fund this parasitic cash cow! The Conference owes no responsibility to keeping the finances of Wembley on an even keel, let the big boys of the premiershite and the legions of silly England fans who seem to contain a heap of types who would never soil the arses of their trousers at a lower level ground pay out of their noses for that privilege, and if you want to give one side an advantage by staging the game just forty miles from their ground play the bloody thing at Gnome Park, if not; over two legs ~ home and away! |
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Post by buster on May 10, 2009 17:14:03 GMT
Have to totally agree with Merse.
Why Wembley?
Wembley is not a "grand day out" for us. We had that special occasion with the Sherpa van final. This is a must win game for two teams on an equal footing. Not a cup final.
I guess there may be an element of being spoilt somewhat with a 5th appearance. But for me I can`t get excited about a play off final.
I`m sick of the powers that be running football with their own personal agendas that have prescious little concern for the fan or indeed clubs like ours.
history says it all.
Blackpool - had to play on a Friday night
Colchester - date shifted to fit in with a hastily arranged England friendly.
Cambridge - Sunday 4pm to fit in with what TV?
As soon as I get my tickets I shall be making an official complaint to the ticket company/Wembley and the league.
Ticket booking£2.50 booking fee per ticket - I`ve managed to secure the 4 "next available" seats pitchside. I asked the lad on the phone what that meant and all he could say was, " it was what the league wanted this year". I asked what the fee was for when I couldn`t choose our seats. his reply was to say "lots of people have complained. I didn`t go to the final last year & don`t know how the Exeter fans got on but that implies you were able to choose your seats last season. Was that the case?
Postage - £1.50 first class & £5.95 for signed. I asked the lad what the benefits were for paying the additional £4.45 and all he could say was you had to sign for it. But anyone at the door can sign as they don`t know my signature and what if they get lost in the post? He couldn`t answer.
Surely any organisation worth its salt would have costed out its tickets. If I go to the theatre I can choose exactly where i want to sit from those left unsold and there is no fee. So this just smacks of a lumbering giant that nobodies wants trying to rip off the public in an attempt to recoup its build overspend.
I`m going because the players & staff have worked bloody hard to get to this point and need support to try and get over the final hurdle. Although I`ve never been to the new Wembley I`d sooner go to a 30-40k stadium such as Reading that was packed to the rafters.
£100 plus is going to stretch me for a day out. surely its time for those in their ivory towers to deliver a package the fans want on and off the pitch
buster
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on May 10, 2009 17:19:23 GMT
MERSE IN HAVING A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION SHOCKER!Sometimes mate, you can just let them go. It says a lot about you as a person that you feel the need to stamp down on anything you don't agree with. Not everyone has been to Wembley as much as you have. I have been just once - last season for the FA Trophy final. Don't get me wrong, the most important thing is winning and getting a place back in the Football League. But for me, and many, many others, seeing your team at Wembley is what you dream of as a kid. And to see them in such an important game builds up the excitement to boiling point. I don't approve of how much Wembley has cost to build and I don't approve of how it's run. But that's not the issue. I paid £7.50 at Salisbury for a miserable burger, a pathetic portion of chips and a Diet Coke. But I choose to do this. If you don't want to pay the prices, eat before you go. You're only there for two hours. If you can't go for that long without eating then you should probably consult a doctor. Or a dietician. What do you want these so-called "powers that be" to do? Wait until they see who is in the final before deciding on a venue. We all know it's a Wembley day out from the start of the season, why moan about it once we get there? "Oh, Torquay have got to the final. They've been to Wembley before, shall we stick them down on the Hackney Marshes?" Next Sunday is probably going to cost me in the region of £100 (I'm unemployed, by the way) but it could cost three times as much and I would still be there to witness one of the most important days in our club's history. I'm going to enjoy next Sunday from the minute I wake to the minute I get into bed. If you want to splash the cash to sit in the corner looking miserable, you do that. I certainly won't waste any time feeling sorry for you. I think we're all just going to have to agree to disagree on the politics, but can we please just GET BEHIND THE TEAM? Just for the record, I think any night out with dozens of friends would be a pretty epic night out...
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Post by witneygull on May 10, 2009 17:31:47 GMT
I have been to all the Wembley visits, and they have all been memorable one way or another. Looking forward to another good day out on Sunday.
I would never bother with the food and drinks on offer, overpriced and not very good - But you know what? No-one is forcing me to go and buy a crappy burger are they? I am likely to head into town and find something decent to eat at lunchtime, and a few pints on a convenient pub somewhere.
The booking system is to the usual level of a music event, run totally for the convenience of the venue and whoever got the contract for flogging them.
Previous play off finals, I don't think I bought in advance at all, and just paid on the night, you have to wonder whats so wrong with that.
Booked online and a bit intrigued what exactly a £2.50 "convenience fee" is!!
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Post by lambethgull on May 10, 2009 18:24:32 GMT
If it's true that we had sold less than 6,000 tickets as of last night then that is incredibly disappointing. We have the very real possibility of being outnumbered not just in the ground but in ‘our own’ end too. I’m struggling to keep up with the list of excuses:
1) Fans can't sit together. Can Cambridge fans?
2) London is so expensive to get to. Maybe, but an off-peak return from Torquay to London via train costs £17 less than a return to Stoke-on-Trent.
3) Only 900 tickets were available from the club shop. And how many tickets have been made available from the Cambridge club shop?
4) The tickets are too expensive. I agree. And if people can't afford it then they can't afford it. But it doesn't change the fact that Cambridge have 20,000+ who CAN afford a ticket.
Whilst I agree with Merse that a two-legged affair at each club's respective ground would be the best way of settling things, the fact remains that the final was always going to be held at Wembley. Whilst there may be mitigating circumstances for us taking fewer fans than Cambridge, it's hard to avoid wondering if Exeter (with the same number of excuses) would be taking fewer than 10,000 supporters to such an important game.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2009 19:11:37 GMT
I notice Cambridge were up to 16.5k sales last night. 4.5k away from their entire allocation. Listening to Radio Cambridgeshire's second leg coverage - and reading Tuesday's Cambridge News - I got the impression there is a widespread belief that promotion is already won. Well, let's see... Oddly, a meeting of two clubs who have just seen their closest rivals promoted in successive seasons ("Peterboring" in Cambridge's case). And, for the record, the pre-Wembley play-off finals: 2003 Doncaster v Dagenham att 13092 at Stoke 2004 Aldershot v Shrewsbury att 19216 at Stoke 2005 Carlisle v Stevenage att 13422 at Stoke 2006 Halifax v Hereford att 15499 at Leicester |
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