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Post by stuartB on May 8, 2009 21:36:15 GMT
Hmmmn... Being looked at like a freak for acknowledging Hilly's record by people who probably had never been to Plainmoor. Cut off from the main body of Gulls. Not my bag, stuart. too right Rob, loads of Johnnie Come Latelies. Of course they are welcome to swell the coffers but they would help more by turning up at Plainmoor on freezing cold, wet February games
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Post by familystander on May 8, 2009 21:57:53 GMT
...So the club has 1000 tickets for block 119. Pitchside, and in between the corner flag and 18 yrd line according to the wembley seating plan. It'll be like the away section at Bristol Rovers ! Do you think TUFC have just been given these tickets because they are probably the hardest to sell ?? I was in roughly that spot last year. Good view I thought, plenty of noise, I was towards the back and the middle tier overhangs slightly which helped with the accoustics. I would happily return to the same spot but booked over the phone first thing today so am clueless as to where I will be!
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Post by capitalgull on May 8, 2009 22:06:56 GMT
Yeah I was in 121 and the only people there and in 122 who stood up and applauded Hilly were the guys I knew Merse had booked tickets for in the same blocks.
Twas a real shame and I am only glad I was able to be at the game early this season when he came on to the pitch at Plainmoor and got a standing ovation from the regulars that was fitting for such a loyal servant as Kevin.
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Post by Jon on May 9, 2009 9:39:50 GMT
Any more thoughts on whether block 119 is any good?
I'm 50/50 whether to pay the extra and take pot luck online or just pick up tickets from Plainmoor.
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Post by chelstongull on May 9, 2009 10:29:39 GMT
Any more thoughts on whether block 119 is any good? I'm 50/50 whether to pay the extra and take pot luck online or just pick up tickets from Plainmoor. Was thinking that myself Jon. Give us a bell over the week-end.
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Post by chelstongull on May 9, 2009 13:04:58 GMT
There's a lot of folk watching the Trophy Final on or near the half-way line.
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Post by Dave on May 9, 2009 13:17:59 GMT
Bite the bullet? What just like the club has to do as it reports it will lose as much as £30.000 in sales at the club shop, due to not selling the tickets direct to its own fans.
So who are the winners? Because to me it sure looks like the two clubs and their fans are all on the losing side. I really don’t know how it all works, so can someone explain it to me?
Why would the sales be handled by an American company, surely they are looking to make a tidy sum from handling the sales, so what is the advantage in letting them being the ones who do handle the sales.
I have always taken the view in life that if its not broke don’t fix it, yes there are times when some changes can be good and improve things, or make them work or look better, but that is not the case in this instance..
Will lessons be learnt? Will we see a return to the days when fans just got their tickets from the club, booked on the coach, bought a new club shirt to wear on the day and then only had the day to look forward too.
I see that on-line and telephone sales of the tickets ends at 2pm on the 13th May, so what will happen then? Will we see tickets been thrown at the clubs in a desperate attempt to try to make up for all the lost sales this farce has lost?
It will be interesting to hear the views of those who bought on line etc, when their tickets arrive and learn just where they will be sitting in the ground. I fear that if the clubs get asked to sell tickets from Thursday onward and those tickets could be picked in what blocks you wanted, that we will see some very unhappy fan who’s on- line tickets have put them in a poor viewing block.
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Post by paulr on May 9, 2009 14:20:30 GMT
I bought my tickets on line before the choice buttons were made available. As you rightly say we will have to wait and see exactly where we will be allocated seats, however, I think that due to the crazy sales system that there will be many empty seats. If that turns out to be the case, I think that you will probably be free to sit where you like! It is just a shame that instead of concentrating on generating all possible goodwill, enthusiasm and excitement during the lead up to the final, we are left debating the sale and allocation of tickets! Sadly what's done is done! Whilst easy say , try not to let those responsible ruin what is OUR day out supporting OUR wonderful club as they do all that they can to give us back a League Football team!
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Post by merse on May 9, 2009 15:28:59 GMT
Why would the sales be handled by an American company, surely they are looking to make a tidy sum from handling the sales, so what is the advantage in letting them being the ones who do handle the sales. Because when the decision was taken one of the four clubs involved was Histon and they are incapable of handling ticket sales with their Chairman's wife sitting in the Social Club using a biscuit tin for a till. Cambridge and ourselves could handle it easily, as could Stevenage (haven't they just taken care of their Trophy sales?) only tin pot little village club Histon and that proves inconclusively that they are patently unfit for Football league membership and should never have been allowed in the play offs for that very reason. I still don't see why the Conference Board made that decision anyway because Histon wouldn't have taken more than a couple of thousand to Wembley in any case.....................a couple of blocks of seats would have been ample for them. I've emailed a letter to the NLP (maybe too late for this Sunday, but certainly in time for next week) calling for Brian Lee's resignation and that of the Board of the Conference and demanding that only directors of SUCCESSFUL clubs be eligible in future for this important body. Setanta brand this game as the Ultimate Prize, it's two the BSP's best run clubs supported by two sets of devoted fans; what we do not need is some dozy old buffer like Brian Lee and his half stupid board ruining the day for us all, but that is all we have been lumbered with. It's a bloody scandal!
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Post by merse on May 9, 2009 15:37:39 GMT
There's a lot of folk watching the Trphey Final on or near the half-way line. Well that's because the clubs handled the ticket sales themselves just as we did last season when we were there. There were exactly the same seats favoured then too. All I can suggest is a mass stampede from the crap seats to any empty good ones next Sunday as a sign of protest and an organised campaign to let this senile old cnut Brian Lee know what we think of him and sing for his resignation. Can anyone think of a suitably short and sweet song and put it up on the Cambridge fans' site too? This guy has overseen the wholesale piss take of the league by Weymouth, the farce of the players' registrations and points deductions; and now this.........................get rid of the old fool!!!!!
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Post by mike on May 9, 2009 15:38:00 GMT
Why would the sales be handled by an American company, surely they are looking to make a tidy sum from handling the sales, so what is the advantage in letting them being the ones who do handle the sales. Because when the decision was taken one of the four clubs involved was Histon and they are incapable of handling ticket sales with their Chairman's wife sitting in the Social Club using a biscuit tin for a till. Cambridge and ourselves could handle it easily, as could Stevenage (haven't they just taken care of their Trophy sales?) only tin pot little village club Histon and that proves inconclusively that they are patently unfit for Football league membership and should never have been allowed in the play offs for that very reason. I still don't see why the Conference Board made that decision anyway because Histon wouldn't have taken more than a couple of thousand to Wembley in any case.....................a couple of blocks of seats would have been ample for them. I've emailed a letter to the NLP (maybe too late for this Sunday, but certainly in time for next week) calling for Brian Lee's resignation and that of the Board of the Conference and demanding that only directors of SUCCESSFUL clubs be eligible in future for this important body. Setanta brand this game as the Ultimate Prize, it's two the BSP's best run clubs supported by two sets of devoted fans; what we do not need is some dozy old buffer like Brian Lee and his half stupid board ruining the day for us all, but that is all we have been lumbered with. It's a bloody scandal! Interesting theory Merse Time perhaps for the Blue Square Premier should be just that-reduce the number of teams in the league and ditch the clubs that are not properly run
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Post by merse on May 9, 2009 16:01:45 GMT
Time perhaps for the Blue Square Premier should be just that-reduce the number of teams in the league and ditch the clubs that are not properly run Exactly, shedding enough clubs to get rid of scheduled midweek fixtures would make sense (as it would in all leagues) as the attendances for these games are appalling and would also help with the ridiculous impacting of games at the end of every season due to the need to get the fixtures finished so the blazers can have their night out at their awards ceremony/dinner..................that's another bloody scandal that needs addressing. Remember how we had to play four times a week at the end of last season and then ultimately ran out of juice in the all important play off semi and Trophy Final? These administrators, don't give a shit about the welfare of players or the finances of supporters; they really don't..................and let's face it clubs like Woking who actively make visiting fans unwelcome, Weymouth who pulled a stunt that would never be permitted in the Football League and Histon with there hopelessly inadequate set up are hardly fit to carry the mantle of "Non League's" Premiership standard are they? At least the BSP will be shot of Woking and Weymouth next season, or will they? There seems to be a repetitive theme of the inadequate getting a reprieve in this league. This is not knocking the BSP per se. It's a pleasure and a privilege to visit the likes of Stevenage, Rushden, AFC Wimbledon and other upwardly mobile clubs who have striven to provide excellent facilities and teams of no mean competitiveness. There are plenty of clubs like Oxford, Wrexham, York, Luton, Mansfield and the like who have perfectly good facilities and knowledgeable crowds and a fairly decent welcome. We've seen Aldershot, Exeter and Burton move upwards and onwards and we'd just die to join them next season, but if we don't it won't be the end of the world and I'd just like to think that the BSP will get it's administrative house in order as befits the super little league that it can be ; and to a large extent generally is.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2009 19:53:08 GMT
Exactly, shedding enough clubs to get rid of scheduled midweek fixtures would make sense (as it would in all leagues) as the attendances for these games are appalling and would also help with the ridiculous impacting of games at the end of every season due to the need to get the fixtures finished so the blazers can have their night out at their awards ceremony/dinner..................that's another bloody scandal that needs addressing. Remember how we had to play four times a week at the end of last season and then ultimately ran out of juice in the all important play off semi and Trophy Final? I believe many of these problems started when the Conference expanded from 22 to 24 clubs a few seasons back. What was the justification for that when there's the FA Trophy (a Saturday competiton after all) and the play-offs to consider? Vanity I'd say - or trying to placate/maximise revenue from the extra arrivals from the Football League? Then - for financial reasons I guess - we saw the re-introduction of a league cup competition (the Setanta Shield) after earlier versions had been shown to be a hindrance. That wasn't clever. Overall - at whatever level - I'd contend that 22 clubs is quite enough for any league. What is now the Championship functioned quite happily with 22 clubs until the "streamlining" of the Premier League pushed the numbers up. In those days, of course, it was only the two lower divisions which had 24 clubs but that number now seems to be the template for professional leagues below the Premier League. I actually think there should be no more than 100 clubs playing football on a nationwide basis - that's 5 X 20 - but that's probably not going to happen. On the other hand, perhaps reason will prevail and the Conference clubs might bite the bullet by cutting the national league back to 22. Another step might be a three-up/three-down arrangement with Conference North and South (based on a play-off between the respective runners-up). I say this because - although I welcome the pyramid's emphasis on meritocracy (with ground grading playing a part) - we are seeing, as other postings intimate, too many clubs being promoted beyond their station. I'm not thinking about Histon but more of clubs such as Lewes, Farsley and Droylsden. Yes, as it's based on merit, clubs of this size quite rightly rise (just as Colchester made it to the Championship) but perhaps it would be better if this happened every three or four years rather than, seemingly, every season? Indeed, you can already sense next season's four promoted clubs shaping up: Wimbledon should be a Conference force for a long-time to come (barring promotion to the Football League); Tamworth and (especially) Gateshead will be looking to survive; Hayes & Yeading will most likely be a disaster. Telford would have been a more welcome addition but that's just one of those things, isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2009 20:55:19 GMT
A bit late on the scene but I've had a few things on my mind this week through starting a new job. Anyway, here goes.
I was just getting on the train home at Hatfield on Tuesday - along with people who appeared to be heading for a match in the vicinity of Finsbury Park - when my mobile rang to tell me of the ticket arrangements for Wembley. "Yeah, yeah go ahead" was my response and, by the time I emerged from the tube at Waterloo, I'd recieved an "all sorted" text. That, I'd argue, was the perfect arrangement - in theory - for our little party comprising four souls from Taunton and one from Exeter, none of whom (save for me going to the Legends Evening) was likely to set foot in Torquay for a while.
And, having purchased tickets for at least half-a-dozen play-off finals at Cardiff, it's the way ticket sales have been going for a while. However, from those games and a few others elsewhere, I've had contrasting experiences. These have ranged from Leyton Orient - good old-fashioned postal system which involved the O's cashing my cheque (remember those?) and failing to supply me with a ticket until the Football League intervened - to Cheltenham Town using a very efficient online business in East Lancashire which offered a drop-down menu facility allowing me to select where I wished to sit. In general, my experience of online systems has been favourable and I'd guess most of us would be happy with a "mixed economy" approach which allows us to choose between purchasing tickets online, by phone or through the old-fashioned over-the-counter method. Most importantly, in whatever system, there has to be an arrangement which allows purchase of tickets right up to the last moment. Anyone who has bought event tickets in recent years would, I'm sure, be able to provide details of how this can be done!
Two things interest me. Firstly, that venues (such as Wembley or the Millennium) are often not involved in ticket sales at all. Their approach seems to be to hire the place out and hand over everything to the event organisers. I suppose that's low-cost-for-maximum return and, in Wembley's case, the stadium owners play the card - for a fair bob on the bill no doubt - that they have a unique product that the entire world (according to the marketing consultants) wants more than anything else. By contrast, and I know it's a completely different situation, I've just ordered four tickets for Wales v Estonia - a tenner each plus a quid for postage (arriving next day) - direct from the venue in Llanelli. There's something rather quaint and reassuring about that - and I did like her Llanelli accent to boot.
Secondly, I note the way the Conference has called the shots rather than the competing clubs. Certainly, from my experience of Football League play-offs, each club has individually decided how to sell tickets. For me, unless I've wanted to sit with a particular set of fans, this has involved "shopping around" to find the method that most suited me. In the current instance Cambridge may have used one method; Torquay United quite another. Fair play.
Lastly, if you've not seen them, Colin Lee's comments in the Herald Express during the week made for interesting reading:
"We had meetings with two other ticket companies, thinking ahead, before the Conference invited us and the other semi-finalists to Wembley last week.
But when we got there, tickets.com made a presentation and it was obvious that the decision had already been made.
The fact is that our supporters can buy tickets cheaper through them than if we had done it through another source, and that means quite a lot to us.
What you do lose is the direct connection to your supporters and we know people like to come in to buy tickets.
But we hope it's easier for them, not having to get in their cars and driving here.
Having said that, we didn't have any say in the matter."
I wonder what the other bidders offered?
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Post by Rob on May 10, 2009 11:31:29 GMT
I notice Cambridge were up to 16.5k sales last night. 4.5k away from their entire allocation.
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