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Post by Dave on Apr 14, 2009 19:11:09 GMT
I'm sorry you feel that way Sue, I happen to think this site is blessed with very sensible people who give honest views and mostly in a respectful way. I also happen to love the site for its rich content and people who are able to take a proper balanced view where matters of TUFC are concerned. Still I learned along time ago you can't please everyone, but I do feel this site pleases so many and for all the right reasons. Poor Chris Hayes will be pulling his hair out seeing this thread come back and getting more pages added to it My own view is that Woods is getting many votes because some see it as a way of putting two fingers up at Buckle, you only need to read some views written elsewhere after yesterdays game to guess the sorts who are voting for Woods. If he had stayed with the club until the end of the season, he would have been in my top three for sure, he did play well in most of the games he featured in. He is not at the club and no longer a part of it and was not here for the whole season and as my vote was for the player of the season, it had to go to someone who has been here for the whole season, does that make sense
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Post by Rob on Apr 14, 2009 19:59:30 GMT
Vote for Sills, regardless. Harsh....... Though probably fair, merse. ;D
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Post by chrish on Apr 14, 2009 19:59:53 GMT
Poor Chris Hayes will be pulling his hair out seeing this thread come back and getting more pages added to it It must be a bloody conspiracy, thats all I can say!
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Post by tufc01 on Apr 14, 2009 20:09:29 GMT
...Of course it will be seen as criticism of the management and the club aswell Fonda.....dont be so bloody naive. If he wins it it will OBVIOUSLY be for the wrong reason. Why 'OBVIOUSLY'? God, I hate this site. It seems that most on here think they really are the bees knees (there are some honourable exceptions). If people want to vote for Woods, [glow=yellow,2,300]FOR WHATEVER REASON, EVEN IF IT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY LIKE HIS HAIRCUT [/glow]then good for them. There are no criteria set out by the club or the TUST, so people can use whatever yardstick they fancy. It has nothing to do with Buckle: he's not a player, he's not in the running for player of the season, end of. If Steve Woods does win, then I'm sure that Buckle will be man enough to take it. Reminds me of a few years ago when my sister voted for Mario Walsh because she thought he was gods gift to women. Probably the only vote he ever got. If its down to best haircut, we were thinking maybe Toddy.
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Post by chrish on Apr 14, 2009 20:09:50 GMT
Fonda, you are once again coming across as the most gullible and idealistic sort of person....................the sort who wouldn't last five minutes in the tough old competitive world of professional football if you had to depend on your naive view of events to keep you in a job. If you don't SERIOUSLY believe that a significant number of disaffected fans aren't hijacking the poll in order to have a go at the manager then you are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land. Different people see "Player Of The Season" in different lights......................some would say the best performing player, some would say the most popular player and some would say the one who has shown the most courage. That alone would lead to a three way poll, and then if you throw in the "Woods Factor" you have a fourth. Jesus, another forum even used to run a poll in which people who NEVER saw a single game voted for their "Player of the Season" ~ how bloody stupid was that? Go easy on the lad. It's not his fault he hasn't got a cynical bone in his body. I find it refreshing that he hasn't.
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Post by davepougher on Apr 14, 2009 20:59:07 GMT
If Woods wins it I do feel it would be a bit of a miscarriage of justice, a. because like somebody said earlier it is for the season and b. if he wins then the cynics will automatically assume that it was BECAUSE he was summarily sacked not of INSPITE of it. Probably the same cynics that voted for him lol
God I hope he doesn't get players player now!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2009 22:52:59 GMT
Admittedly I've seen far more home matches than away ones this season but I've considered Steve Woods would have been in with a shout for Man of the Match in the vast majority of the games I've seen. If he'd missed the run in because of injury rather than due to an eccentric Managerial decision then I'd still have voted for him as I feel that his consistently excellent performances have put him sufficiently ahead of his nearest rival for this accolade.
It is just an added bonus that I can genuinely vote for the player who I think deserves the award while also indicatating my dissatisfaction with the Manager.
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Post by merse on Apr 15, 2009 3:10:13 GMT
............................... if he wins then the cynics will automatically assume that it was BECAUSE he was summarily sacked not of INSPITE of it. But he wasn't "summarily sacked" as you put it......................he has negotiated a termination of his contract. If YOU ever get " summarily sacked" you try negotiating anything! You really couldn't make this whole saga up could you. An ageing defender insists on his contractual future being decided BEFORE the manager and club feel it's pertinent to do so and doesn't like the decision that is then made. Despite attempts to "get him on board like the rest of the squad" and concentrate on the immediate and overriding job in hand (attaining promotion), his response is sufficiently far away from what is required to necessitate his abrupt removal from the squad and the option is given to him to seek a loan move to another club whereby he can actively see out the season. This he declines and he opts to seek a settlement. He's been given options, he's had his contractual obligations fulfilled and he's now able to sit at home on his arse with remuneration in his bank account for no effort from him until the end of June. If you think THAT is "summary dismissal" I suggest you think it through again and stop making such inflammatory statements that do no good to anybody....................not Steve Woods, Paul Buckle nor the Chairman or Board of Directors. By all means vote for who you wish in the PotS ballot if it gives you some inner pleasure, but at least you are doing it for football reasons not some petty little Boots & Laces tittle tattle reasoning. By the way, has anyone actually seen Steve Woods showing any interest in the fortunes of the club he was so committed too since he received his pay off?
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 15, 2009 7:33:23 GMT
I'd like to agree with Merse please!?
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Post by chrish on Apr 15, 2009 8:04:21 GMT
Admittedly I've seen far more home matches than away ones this season but I've considered Steve Woods would have been in with a shout for Man of the Match in the vast majority of the games I've seen. If he'd missed the run in because of injury rather than due to an eccentric Managerial decision then I'd still have voted for him as I feel that his consistently excellent performances have put him sufficiently ahead of his nearest rival for this accolade. It is just an added bonus that I can genuinely vote for the player who I think deserves the award while also indicatating my dissatisfaction with the Manager. Keep going Joe. I almost believe you!
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Post by suepowell on Apr 15, 2009 8:22:31 GMT
I shan't give "Uncle" Merse the satisfaction of quoting him in my post, but he's about as wrong as it's possible to be on most of the points he makes in his post. He doesn't know Steve Woods; he hasn't had the opportunity to discuss with him his side of the matter; and he hasn't discussed it either with the only other player in this case, Paul Buckle, as is evident from his comments.
And I can't be fagged to give "Uncle" Merse the satisfaction of replying to each of his witterings, but my own personal view of the Woods debacle is that, yes, he DOES have cause to go to law about his dismissal (before you ask, no I'm not a lawyer, but have a reasonable knowledge of employment law), and if you really knew the details, "Uncle" Merse, you'd know that. But it's clear you don't.
I will answer his last two comments though: I hardly ever go there (time doesn't permit); and yes; it's still very much 'us' and 'we'.
And to the person who asks why I visit here if I hate this site so much: there are exceptions to the know-alls. Sometimes it's worth delving through the sniping, the carping and the twisted truth to read their postings. And, if I'm completely honest, our bright shiny new (ish) owners aren't a whole lot better at keeping us informed online than Bateson was. Although the match programme does make interesting reading, especially in date order.
Finally, if I may make clear, I have not voted for Woods purely on account of his hairstyle (although it's jolly excellent); I have voted for him for, as "Uncle" Merse would like, for footballing reasons. After just seven points from seven games (with midfielders playing in every position, it seemed), then a last-gasp win against a team that's spent almost the entire season in the relegation zone, Woods rejoined the side. Remind me: exactly how long was our unbeaten run then?
I'll take that taxi now.
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 15, 2009 9:25:14 GMT
Sue... would you be able to confirm which of 'the only two' that have knowledge of the Steve Woods affair you have spoken to?
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Post by chelstongull on Apr 15, 2009 10:50:22 GMT
I would have thought that as his contract has been paid up, Woodsie wouldn't be out of pocket and would have no recourse in court. Then I'm no Perry Mason.
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Post by andygulls on Apr 15, 2009 13:40:40 GMT
I'd like to agree with Merse please!? Me too Worrying isn't it ;D
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Post by merse on Apr 15, 2009 15:32:26 GMT
I seem to recall somebody else shouting from the roof tops about taking people to court.....................nothing happened yet though; perhaps it'll brighten up the close season If Steve Woods is as good as some people make out, we can expect him to sign for someone higher up the football pyramid than us then. Then again if he is so good, there would have been a host of clubs banging down his door to join them on loan when he was available. Truro City must be quaking in their boots that some veritable giants of the game sneak in and prevent them taking on the ageing defender. I actually thought that Woodsie had a half decent half season this time around in a level of football he looked more at ease in than when he featured in two relegation seasons in three not so long ago. Good luck to him wherever he goes, but I doubt very much it'll be to a club of much better standing than a relegated Northwich Victoria, Weymouth or Bath City type of set up and NONE of these clubs could afford the type of wage he's been on with us, neither a full time contract nor the extensive periods of time he seems to spend on the injured list. Might be time to get a "proper job" Woodsie!
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