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Post by merse on Feb 5, 2009 19:29:24 GMT
I think you must have been drunk when you said they should have come in their cars. If Dave Shaw posts on this forum that the BSP is just a pub league, you can bet you will tell him how wrong he is. You may even go on about how professional this league now is, then you want Weymouth to turn up to the ground the way a pub team would, in CARS If you're going to go on and on banging a drum for Weymouth "Town" F.C. you want to take on board that the club in the BSP is Weymouth FC not "Town".If the idea of your second favourite club arriving in cars is beneath them in your opinion, you want to find out why they travelled to Mansfield in cars before Christmas. Remember, when Exeter City decided they wouldn't fulfill a fixture they were slung out of the Football League for doing so. Weymouth FC's problems are not mine, nor yours nor Torquay United's......they are their own of their own making through spending more money than they ever should have......over many years I might add. Any alternative view you have to mine is not best served by constantly throwing Chris Roberts into the equation..................it is tiresome, irrelevent and childish. You have turned my enthusiasm for a business plan that would transform a raggedy and rusty eyesore of a so called sports arena into something worthwhile as some sort of psuedo worship for an individual I wasn't afraid to put MY name to in calls for his Chairmanship of OUR club to be called into a vote of no confidence.................a call that brought personal insult, and insinuation that I and my three fellow instigators of the Trust were acting against the interests of the organisation. Neither was I afraid to communicate with one of his major backers, the man who sourced the pension fund he utilised along with fellow TUST founding members to communicate to them the true feeling of the supporters of the club so that in the end he (Roberts) lost their support and backing. Get this into your very thick head Dave. Understand that whilst I don't really give a shit about the weed strewn rusting old eyesore that is Torre Abbey Meadows and the aptly named "REC", nor the tumble down Rock Walk or the silly balloon - I DO care passionately about OUR football club. My only interest in the town of Torquay is that it is where the football club that I support plays. Now if you want to debate the desirability of the BSP carrying lame duck clubs like Weymouth FC with me, fine; but stick to the subject! I avoid the depressing place that is Torquay Town Centre and sea front like the plague and only enter the town to go to Plainmoor, so don't worry your lovely little heaven by the sea is quite safe from "the likes of me". |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 5, 2009 19:59:27 GMT
I don't think it would have done any harm for the Weymouth lads to pool their cars and drive down (even with a bit of B & B thrown in). Surely Weymouth should pull out ALL the stops to fulfill their fixture obligations.
The Plymouth v Preston game went ahead ok.
Like all of us we have to budget our finances and any professional football club should be able to do the same.
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Post by Dave on Feb 5, 2009 19:59:53 GMT
I do not have a second favourite club or love for any other club, I have over the last six years got to know very well, some very decent people in Weymouth who are fans of WEYMOUTH FC I understand and share their fears for the future of their club, one ruined by those who only had their own self interests at heart and not that of the football club.
The whole point about bring your support for Roberts into the thread was to highlight the problems TUFC got into and-how we would have ended up losing our club.
I would expect they went by car before as they may not have paid the bill to the coach company, you should not forget, we were about to find that our club would have not been able to enjoy some services, due to Roberts not paying bills, even the VAT had not been paid.
I think its a bit rich of you to say that I have a thick head, I mean not being rude here, but who had the thickest head out of the two of us in the early Roberts days. The point I was making was that a football club as many people who make It up and that includes its fans, they really are at the mercy at times of those who have gained power and its those people in Weymouth I feel sorry for as they keep everything crossed that the club can be saved.
Why you need to bring Rock Walk and the balloon into the thread I do not know, as I have said before we have some problems here in Torbay, but its still and always will be a far more beautiful and safer place to live than London and the police here won't shoot you, they may ask you to shut the pub doors for a few hours to avoid any problems, but we can live with that.
I do seem to remember going to our game against Leyton Orient and my mates unable to have a drink before the game, it was because the pubs were not allowed to open until games had kicked off, I think that is why the game was a 12pm kick off? sure that was the correct time, I bet those pubs missed out on some trade, just like those at Plainmoor.
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Post by Dave on Feb 5, 2009 20:13:34 GMT
I don't think it would have done any harm for the Weymouth lads to pool their cars and drive down (even with a bit of B & B thrown in). Surely Weymouth should pull out ALL the stops to fulfill their fixture obligations. The Plymouth v Preston game went ahead ok. Like all of us we have to budget our finances and any professional football club should be able to do the same. How many clubs do you know Phil who do? I do wonder if Yeovil played a part in Weymouths problems, not directly but the success they found and the move to bigger and better things. Weymouth got into the conference and the then owner really wanted to try and push the club up even higher, I do not know if the gates would have ever gone up to the level they would have needed to, to keep the club in a higher division. All this extra expense caused by paying too high wages to players and the manager was only because the owner thought he had a deal to sell the ground to a supermarket and the sale would have covered everything. When the sale did not happen the club was then in debt and the owner just looked to off load the club as soon as possible. Like I said its those with self interests who should not be running clubs and are the ones who end up ruining good small clubs. |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 5, 2009 20:21:16 GMT
Evening Dave,
I would imagine that Weymouth have spent all their house keeping money on wages for Lee Phillips (shades of City a few years ago when they had the legend that was Steve Flack and Sean Devine).
If Weymouth are in a bit if a fix then they need to get the high wage earners (or not sign them in the first place) off the books.
At the end of the day its just opinions, what this good site is built on!!
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Post by merse on Feb 5, 2009 20:26:38 GMT
1- I have over the last six years got to know very well, some very decent people in Weymouth who are fans of WEYMOUTH FC 2- I would expect they went by car before as they may not have paid the bill to the coach company, 3- ......... we have some problems here in Torbay, but its still and always will be a far more beautiful and safer place to live than London and the police here won't shoot you, 4- I do seem to remember going to our game against Leyton Orient and my mates unable to have a drink before the game, it was because the pubs were not allowed to open until games had kicked off, I think that is why the game was a 12pm kick off? sure that was the correct time, I bet those pubs missed out on some trade, just like those at Plainmoor. To respond to these selected points: 1- To the best of my knowledge, ALL football clubs have a number of "very decent people" who are fans, Weymouth FC aren't unique in that. 2-You would be about right there then!  3- Beauty (as they say) is in the eye of the beholder and as for "a safer place to live", that's not the impression I get reading the HE; I wouldn't regard myself any safer or less safe in either place; and I've yet to be "shot by the police" anywhere! 4- The only noon kick off we had at the O's was for a New Year's Day fixture as far as I can recall (ALL London games on a Bank Holiday kick off simultaneously), and the pub opening hours would have related to the Sunday regulations in force at the time. For certain on every other occasion I have been to one of our games at Brizzers we have spent a good deal of time in the legendary Birkbeck Tavern!  |
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Post by Dave on Feb 5, 2009 20:28:06 GMT
Good even Phil, yes it will always be about opinions and this is the place where good debate comes naturally, why even me and merse have been known to enjoy a good debate together and have at times come close to nearly agreeing, the good news is that it has not happened yet and we will continue to disagree over most things, but in our usual respecting way that we have for each other. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 5, 2009 20:31:43 GMT
Merse the only reason you see such stories in the Herald Express is, because down here such events are rare and therefore make the news, not the case in the London papers as such events are just considered normal and a way of life. |
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Post by Rob on Feb 7, 2009 16:25:01 GMT
I see Burton have signed Martin Butler. Granted it was a while ago, but I remember him and Cureton forming an incredible partnership at Reading.
A better signing than Christie?
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Post by capitalgull on Feb 7, 2009 18:36:40 GMT
Butler hasn't scored for nearly 10 months and has always been injury prone. Better than Christie at his best, by some margin, but now...I don't think so personally, and I doubt he'll be straight into the Burton side either.
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Post by NickGull on Feb 8, 2009 12:44:02 GMT
Apparently Buckle has told Christie to lose weight. He wants him to lose some weight and get fitter, so he is on-par with the rest of the squad.
Also, during the hour long training match the lads played in the other day, Christie and Green were upfront for one team, while Benyon and Sills were on the other. I was told that Christie and Green looked an awesome pairing together, and they tore apart our first choice centre backs. I doubt PB would think of dropping Sills, but if Christie is in the same build as him, and Buckle is getting frustrated at the lack of goals from Sills (although that's down to the lack of crossing ability from our wingers in my opinion), then maybe he is thinking of resting Sills for the game on Tuesday (If Weymouth don't come up with some silly excuse...) and trying out Christie and Green.
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Post by Dave on Feb 8, 2009 13:04:12 GMT
It figures that Bucks would want to see how Green and Christie play together, he knows how all the other combinations of strikers has worked or not and as Christie is described as a Sills type player, you might expect they would not start together.
It just goes to prove what merse says about the high level of fitness and hard work that is at the club now and all players need to be at the required level of fitness. I would hope Bucks picks and plays the two strikers together who he believes will get the goals, many have felt he often just picks his favorite's as in the case of Carlisle.
Would Bucks drop Sills? yes he would, for what ever reasons Sills has not been scoring and Bucks will feel that we really need to come of the traps flying, if we are going to do anything in the second half of the season.
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Post by Rob on Feb 8, 2009 15:26:32 GMT
as Christie is described as a Sills type player, you might expect they would not start together. Would Bucks drop Sills? yes he would, for what ever reasons Sills has not been scoring and Bucks will feel that we really need to come of the traps flying, if we are going to do anything in the second half of the season. A Sills type player? I've seen him described more as a "bustling Phillips type player". That's more accurate, but still short of the mark. I predicted Green would be out for a few weeks earlier in this thread. Lack of goals the reason. Maybe he has had the rap over the knuckles he needed from Bucks for drifting out wide too often. Or maybe, he may be further off first team contention, after Christie's inclusion. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 8, 2009 16:06:08 GMT
Rob, I do not know how I got it in my head that Christie was more like a Sills player, if he is more like Phillips as you say, then he should have no problem playing along side Sills.
I do think you have written off Green far to early and he has a good chance of starting on Tuesday night, I will still state that Green will come good and get goals for us, his game has come on so much since he has been getting more regular starts.
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Post by Rob on Feb 8, 2009 18:38:39 GMT
If Christie isn't fit, I'd say FansForum favourite Green has a fairly good chance of starting, Dave. Bucks won't want to see the drifting out wide he saw and dropped him for, though.
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