It Has To Stop!!!!

I can understand that the use of particular words whether they be swear words or not may be offensive to some.

As a school kid I quite happily shouted and swore at the ref, the police and the opposition from the hallowed steps of the mini stand without any thought to who may be offended.
I`ve now grown up, a little, and now am a little more choosy in the words I use dependant on the company.
If though I find myself in a situation where I don`t feel comfortable I don`t go.
My son and I always sit in the family stand and to be honest on the occasions I`ve been to Plainmoor the atmosphere has been such that you can`t pick out too many words from the pop side.

I agree with forever, the ground could more easily be sectioned off to attract particular elements of our fans.
I personally think the vocal home fans should be at the marnham end. The away fans should be located in the pop, with a section nearest to the family stand for the young gulls.

I find people who make such comments that they will not go again or prefer to watch Argyle now. Are only seeking to make excuses and are at best floating spectators.
Surely you go to a game as a die hard fan of that club, or you go with the knowledge that on occasion you may see or hear something that you wouldn`t in your own home.
If the ground was sectioned and the fans knew in advance they could choose the location of their seat/step accordingly.
As a young teenager I don`t think I would have taken too kindly to someone telling me to mind my words.

buster

hi dave ,i do know of the group your talking about ,and whist they would not cause trouble now ,in a few years time they will be no longer wet behind the ears ,may have grown up by then or they will go the other way .

all iam saying is as a parent you have to make an informed choice,if you take your child onto the popside you must expect to see ,hear things are not appropriate for children.

i do try not to be two faced ,like buster i to stood in the mini stand as a teenager ,and yes i used the f ,w and ashamed to say the c word as well ,i turn 40 in 2 weeks and am now grown up look back and do clearly see the error of my ways.

can you stop swearing no its to late ,walk through any town or city when the schools have finished for the day ,and you will see/hear children running all over the place,calling each other f/ing w and f/ing c , i think do gooding society is to blame ,as a child if i swore my mum would have put soap in my mouth ,do that now to a child and you would be charged with assaulting a minor .

i go on the popside with my 11 year old son ,because as a parent i don't believe in sheltering children from the harsh reality of life, some parent's think they should shelter their children ,neither opinion in my view is wrong.

its not right however swearing seems to be the excepted norm ,and what iam trying to say is if don't want to hear it don't go on the popside the family/grandstand is the place to go.

and long term if the only problem we have is some plastic wannabe kids swearing then we have not done to bad.
compared with a club like aldershot who now have a huge police
bill to pay because of a group of hooligans who have attached themselves to their club.

I've got a feeling that this might be the small group that were at Forest Green in the Setanta Shield the other week that I mentioned in my match updates. A bunch of absolute idiots and their witless drivel that they come-out with is simply embarassing to be associated with.

Mind you, it's not just the kids nowadays. I remember the Coventry FA Cup match of 20 years ago and idiots trying to wind up the Coventry fans through the segregation fence. You know the type 'come on and have a go if your hard enough!', whilst being behind other TUFC fans, a seven foot steel fence and a load of stewards. Oh how I laughed/was embarassed as the coppers frog-marched them out with thumbs bent up their backs.
The sheer cost of the day (was a student {sorry} back then) made me behave myself let alone anything else!

4eva - good post mate.

well, heres my two pennies worth on this...

I know of the group of lads who sing this song, and while I don't stand directly next to them I am within earshot of the chants/ stupid (literally) and as onthebeat says pure witless remarks made by the group.

The Thing is, the society we live in today (did I really just say that? crikey I'm getting old!) they, unfortunately really don't see any difference between the C word and the F word! its funny when they say it in the playground and its funny when they sing it n the popside

I am a little younger than some of you on here (sorry ;D) so maybe I can look past the swearing easier than others, as it has always been a part of my football life. yes I remember the C word in question being used by people much older than myself when i first started going to the plainmoor at the tender age 13!

I do swear at the game, at the ref, at the opposition, at the away fans, and at that cheating b*****d that dived for the penalty. I do not join in with that chant because of my own principles.

My point is though this whole topic is based on opinion. Many on here are offended or do not want to hear that word while watching a game of football, but we cant seriously expect stewards to take action against one word that some find offensive and not others. my language may offend people when I'm at the game! Many will not want to hear the F word, and then some don't want to here the B word, where do you draw the line? As a club, officially, we need to either eradicate it all or let it slide. and I feel Football at our level has gone too far down the road to eradicate it all.

I was watching Everton v Man Utd at Goodison earlier this season and the language used their by the evertonians you would not believe, it would make our very own clan of idiots blush, I watched this one old lady spend the best part of a minute to stand up only to hurl an alphabet of swearwords at Christiano Ronaldo, now that really was an atmosphere even I did not feel comfortable in and it did feel good to be back on the pop side!

I do not think the stewards interfering more than they do is the answer, they have a hard enough job with that particular group as it is, everytime any of them come within ear shot of that area a we hate Argyle chant develops. the kids are pushing boundaries with the stewards and seeing how far they can go, little chats with the ring leaders will just make them worse. the bottom line is they don't respect them, and until one/all them gets ejected from the ground (which I don't particularly want to see) I don't think they will.

I will say this however, It is easy to disregarded this group as trouble makers, and while they are by no means my favorite people at plainmoor, I do feel for them sometimes. They are young and dare I say they don't know any different. I can physically see on their faces looking for the approval of others on the pop, and the trouble is that there are a few 'special adults' (thats the nice way of saying retarded) that have taken the group in and are feeding their behavior.

If my language at a game was offending anybody I would like to know about it and if it offends you i suggest you tell them that yourself, not via the forum but face to face. while as a group they may laugh at you personally when enough people tell them this every time they sing the song they will soon get the message

The popside used to be full of wit. the best comedy in the world was found on the terraces of a football game not the mindless drivel that these kids are coming out with! but nobody is saying anything and they don't see it as wrong or unfunny. If I had said half the dumb-witted remarks that these kids are saying when I first stared watching Torquay I would of been slaughtered by the old pros of the popside. I remember one of my very first games at Torquay wearing my brand new Man Utd shirt! how pleased I was walking up to the game watching a proper Football match in proper Football shirt. I got slaughtered for the whole 90 mins but you know what, I never did it again!

foff, c u next tuesday!! you converted? ;D

well done Mickey