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Post by capitalgull on Jan 10, 2009 16:25:15 GMT
According to Wrexham they are petitioning the BSP to move our planned live on Setanta clash this coming Thursday back to Saturday, since they now have to play their postponed FA Trophy clash with Basingstoke Town on Tuesday.
Just in case people were making travel plans might be worth waiting to see what happens!
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Post by merse on Jan 10, 2009 17:17:47 GMT
That wouldn't be a consistent ruling by the BSP if they agreed as they insisted we went to Burton on the Tuesday following the Blackpool cup tie, and surely if OUR club should be canvassed for opinion, it should be that Thursday stands............................there's a fair bit of money involved here. You never know where "Blazers" are involved though and the one thing that is poor with the BSP is the lack of a decent fixture structure.
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Post by merse on Jan 10, 2009 17:27:08 GMT
...............furthermore, how can the BSP order a postponent anyway when their OWN fixture makers convene two games in three days through the season at Christmas and Easter? Wrexham are pulling a fast one, tell them to get stuffed!
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Post by Dave on Jan 10, 2009 17:41:17 GMT
The club put out a message at the game that this fixture may be moved, the club will be making a statement on Tuesday, so we will know then when the game will be played.
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Post by Dave on Jan 10, 2009 20:40:27 GMT
You say a fair bit on money involved Merse, but the game could earn the club more on the Saturday, not sure what the TV money is now, but many would not go as it was on TV. The main reason being that we had a game last week, one today( only £10 instead of £15) a £16 ticket to buy for the Coventry game.
Those who are paid weekly(sure still some are here in Torbay) may not have any spare cash to pay out on Thursday night. Also how many away fans would we get on the Thursday night, I would bet we would four times the amount on the Saturday.
I'm not saying the game should be moved, only question, which one would earn the club more.
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Post by ealinggull on Jan 11, 2009 0:17:35 GMT
Surel it's in our interest to keep the game on Thursday when we'll have fewer travelling fans spurring their team on?
Setanta won't want to lose a game from their schedules after they lost 2 games this week ...
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Post by bbcgull on Jan 11, 2009 0:22:01 GMT
Indeed. I think i am correct in saying with the FA CUp Replay and then the FA cup, Setanta won't have another Conference game until the end of the month. I agree that i cant see them wanting this moved, me neither!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 0:39:13 GMT
If the Wrexham game was moved that would obviously mean there will have been no League match taking place at Plainmoor between the time of the announcement that the Coventry game was to be made all ticket & the tie itself on the 24th.
I'm not the only one with a long & expensive journey to Plainmoor for home games & I get to most of them, but I decided I couldn't justify attending todays game as the expense of the Wrexham game plus having to fork out another £16 that same night for a ticket for the Coventry game was more than I could afford on football related expenses in one week ( yes I am paid weekly).
Making a game all ticket when having no League matches between the declaration of the tie being all ticket & the tie itself coupled with the announcemet that no tickets for the Coventry match can be collected on the day now means that for me and many others a Coventry ticket has now jumped to £21 minimum (Pop side £16 plus £5 postage to send the ticket out, I won't add the price of my phone call to book the ticket as well)
£21 is a lot of money in order to obtain a ticket to stand at a BSP ground especially when added to my travelling costs and a huge increase on what I paid to attend the Blackpool tie.
I doubt I'm the only one who intended going to the Wrexham game & who would have gladly bought a ticket for the Coventry game at face value (£16) on the same night.
However if it's made sufficiently difficult for us , no Wrexham match, no collection of ticket on match day, the attendance at the Coventry match will suffer.
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Post by merse on Jan 11, 2009 10:24:46 GMT
You've got the wrong end of the stick over Wrexham, Alpine. They want it moved BACK to the original Saturday, 48 hours after the TV Thursday and seven days BEFORE the cup tie. Should their game be postponed for a second time by Basingstoke's pitch being unfit, their argument will be futile anyway.
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Post by jamie on Jan 11, 2009 11:54:48 GMT
I really don't care about the clubs, the bsp, the money, the blazers or anything here.
There should be no talk about whether we will get more away fans, whether there will be opportunities to buy cup tickets or whether there will be games being played too close together.
The only thing that matters here is the fans. Both of our club but especially Wrexham. To change a game at such short notice would be an absolute disgrace, sure it would probably help some fans who couldn't make the thurs game, but think about those fans who have planned travel, paid for trains, booked days off work etc.
Even if there are only two of them that is two too many to mess around at such short notice. As usual the fans may end up getting shafted.
If this game gets moved with 48 hours notice everyone involved should hang their heads in shame.
The other real annoying thing about this is that there is no word on the wrexham or torquay .com sites.........Why?
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jan 11, 2009 12:11:18 GMT
As Jamie says, it certainly will stop me going on Saturday as I had already made commitments knowing that I would have a free weekend. I've only missed two or three home games while I've been in the UK since Roberts was on the scene, but I'm not so bothered about me as I live wihin 1/2 hour of the ground - it is the people (as mentioned) that have to make special arrangements and more costly transport to get to the games.
I believe that there isn't officially confirmed with regards to the decision as it won't even be confirmed until TUESDAY MORNING!! As Jamie says though, there isn't even any mention on the .com site that it is a possibility as far as I can see - surely a cautionary note would stop anyone making firm commitments to get to the game on Thursday.
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 11, 2009 12:42:15 GMT
So we can play a game on Boxing day and another 48 hours on the 28th but Wrexham can't play Tuesday and Thursday of this week - what's the difference?
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Post by merse on Jan 11, 2009 12:48:06 GMT
As I said Jamie, "there's a fair bit of money involved here" and as one who has more than enough times committed considerable money to be able to travel and sometimes stay overnight for United games; I think my statement deserves more credence than Dave chose to give it when he "shot it down" yesterday. You're quite right about considering those who have committed to being there on Thursday and then there are the commercial commitments OUR club have towards corporate support, table bookings and of course the not inconsiderate Setanta money. Setanta too, deserve a decent level of commitment from the BSP for the programme scheduling and advertising already sold for Thursday and as I've said previously playing twice in three days is not seen as a hardship at other times of the season so why now? Who the hell are Wrexham to "presume" anything anyway? I would be most disappointed if anyone where to give way to Wrexham over this at this late stage. On a similar theme, I am engaged as I post this in arranging overnight accomodation for a group of us to get up for the game at Barrow on the 7th of February and that in itself is a tightrope to walk with the liklihood of weather related postponement let alone some Mickey Mouse reason given such as Wrexham's costing US our deposites. The liklihood is that I'll have to opt for a Travelodge deal that incorporates not losing our deposits in the wake of a late call off rather than the nice canal side hotel & restaurant we had our eye on.
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Post by rjdgull on Jan 11, 2009 12:52:10 GMT
So we can play a game on Boxing day and another 48 hours on the 28th but Wrexham can't play Tuesday and Thursday of this week - what's the difference? I suppose the difference is that we are not playing 48 hours before and a similar scenario to our New Year's game being canceled. However, after playing 4 games in one week last season and all the inherent disadvantages this caused, I am not in the least bit sympathetic!
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Post by Dave on Jan 11, 2009 13:00:39 GMT
I would not say I shot down your viewpoint Merse, only questioned the point you made about the money involved. I fully agree that the game should not be moved and for many of the reasons given, ie fans travel plans etc, but I wonder what the clubs views are? would they want it moved to a Saturday if they felt it would earn the club more money? If that was their view and agreed to it, I would then love to hear your views
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