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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 15:37:49 GMT
 Don't tell me we won't want to make use of a Donald Trump thread on plenty of occasions over the next four (eight ?) years. Plenty of 'Trump2020' T shirts already for sale on ebay, although it was the selection of 'Michelle Obama 2020' merchandise that surprised me. In any case, what are the chances of Trump surviving every assassination attempt between now and 2020 ? Hillary's approach to military engagement abroad might have been ratcheted up a notch or two,compared to Obama's,but as for domestic or economic policy, wouldn't it have been pretty much keeping things as they were ? With Trump aren't we expecting to see a significant change of direction on most fronts ? A drastic change of approach in some areas, some of which will surely be for the better Comparisons with Brexit for sure. We had a policy without a Government. The outgoing Cameron Government had fought tooth and nail against it, and the incoming May Government wouldn't have chosen to touch it with a barge pole, but was lumbered with it. The whole of the Left Wing establishment, the Universities the judiciary, the city....all thinking up whatever plans they can to block it. Now in the U.S, the big corporate media, the security apparatus, the Commie college campuses, every grievance group you can think of, formed from one minority or another, seems totally opposed to their incoming President. And yet, picking up my trusty Guardian, I was surprised to read that in Donald's opinion, as far as Brexit goes, it was the refugees that helped clinch it for us. “You look at the European Union and it’s Germany. Basically a vehicle for Germany. That’s why I thought the UK was so smart in getting out”. Trump blamed the decision of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, to welcome refugees fleeing war in the Middle East, for jeopardising the stability of Europe. “I think she made one very catastrophic mistake and that was taking all of these illegals, you know taking all of the people from wherever they come from. And nobody even knows where they come from. People, countries, want their own identity and the UK wanted its own identity. But I do believe this: if they hadn’t been forced to take in all of the refugees, so many, with all the problems that it … entails, I think that you wouldn’t have a Brexit.”link - The Guardian - Trumps view on causes of BrexitWhether some of Britain's less successful political Party leaders will review some of their unpopular policies, particularly in light of the Brexit result, and actually attempt to get more in tune with the the people of the country, we'll have to wait and see. Trump's ability to identify with the ordinary American allowed him to defeat the massed ranks of enemies who threw all they could at him before the election. Will Cap'n Corbyn take note, or is he determined to chart the same old course ?  |
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Post by Rob on Jan 16, 2017 16:32:51 GMT
Another country scratching it's head over what happens next. Just how many countries' peoples Trump is seeking to offend before his inauguration remains unknown as there's a few more nights of tweeting yet to be had. He's got his son-in-law in as middle east envoy today so the people's voice is clearly taking shape nicely over there. I dread to think how his presidency might turn out, but you could well be right on the assassination front, aj.
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Post by Rob on Jan 16, 2017 18:21:31 GMT
I've stayed away from watching Trump, in the main. What will increase under Trump is racism. I predict a year from now Trump will have the worst in-office ratings of any president ever. Too bad USA. You gave him the 4-year term. I suspect you are most likely right regarding the increase in racism, Flo. Do you think his ratings will be low because he can't and doesn't get anything done or because he can and does? Or something else? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 18:42:55 GMT
Trump and Brexit are massive warning signs! Political correctness and the lefty agenda have taken it too far. It's history repeating itself, as it does because as a race of beings we tend to forget, a very similar set of occurrences happened and a nasty little one testicle dictator took advantage! We all know the rest of the story!
Economy takes a dive because of the bankers, the people get pissed off, austerity kicks in pisses some the people off, immigration pisses the people off, the left start to piss the people off, erosion of the peoples identity pisses the people off......... I could go on but the bottom line is the reaction is what is unfolding in front of our very eyes! This could end up very messy!
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Post by stewart on Feb 16, 2017 23:28:44 GMT
Trump and Brexit are massive warning signs! Political correctness and the lefty agenda have taken it too far. It's history repeating itself, as it does because as a race of beings we tend to forget, a very similar set of occurrences happened and a nasty little one testicle dictator took advantage! We all know the rest of the story! Economy takes a dive because of the bankers, the people get pissed off, austerity kicks in pisses some the people off, immigration pisses the people off, the left start to piss the people off, erosion of the peoples identity pisses the people off......... I could go on but the bottom line is the reaction is what is unfolding in front of our very eyes! This could end up very messy! I had no hesitation in voting to leave the EU, because of the situation regarding excessive immigration and the loss of this country's ability to formulate its own laws and policies. On the other hand, I don't feel that the left's attempt to piss people off is having any effect at all, given the weakness of the Labour party in the current era. However, Aussie is quite correct in highlighting the similarity between the outrageous and arrogant remarks which the new US president continues to make, and the rantings of the so-called "leader" of Nazi Germany in the 1930s. In my opinion, we should all be extremely worried about recent statements and reported conflicts coming out of the United States of America. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 19:39:47 GMT
We're going to have to draw up an 'arrogance' League table stewart  , but who is going to be top of it...Mourinho or Trump ? Whether it be Mourinho with his European Cup wins with Porto and Inter, his League titles with Chelsea, Real Madrid etc, or Trump with a personal fortune he's amassed of billions of dollars due to his business skills, the female beauties he's attracted through the decades…. supreme self confidence has resulted, and possibly assisted them both in some respects, as they strive to maintain their levels of success. It probably does tip over into arrogance from time to time, or at least can easily be construed as such. Rather than starting off with the parish council, if your first foray into politics is to run for U.S President, and you defeat all the skilled life long politicians running against you, it's unlikely to make you more humble. Trump's success has to be acknowledged as quite incredible. Not only the full force of the media against him, but the massively financed Democratic Party machine that was backing Hillary throughout America. When we contrast that, while reminding ourselves of the numerous stories of people who volunteered to help the Trump campaign only to be told by the Republican Party that they weren't wanted, with Trump's situation where even his own Party had to a large extent disowned him and that barely lifted a finger to campaign for him nationally or locally. It is a worrying time I agree. There seems to be a coalition of the Security Services, the media, the judiciary, Hollywood....and that's before we even mention actual political opponents, the Democrats, all working in concert to bring him down. With the range of forces aligned against the Trump Presidency I really don't know if he’ll be able to govern. It will make a mockery of democracy if it does prove to be impossible, but his opponents do have massive strength and influence.....and may well also have the power to effectively overturn that ballot box result. Trump's foreign policy is a concern. The Iran deal was indeed good for Iran.I don't think they had any intention of building a nuclear bomb, although it was useful politics for the neocons/hawks to suggest that it was Iran’s ambition. To promise not to do what you hadn't intended to do anyway, has no downside......all you do is bank the cash.....so I can well believe the Iranians are particularly pleased with the deal that was struck with Obama. Similarly with the North Koreans. The U.S already hold half of Korea and have their puppet regime installed there. The last time they tried getting the whole lot, back in the 1950's, the Chinese came over the border and kicked them back down to the South again. Would it be any different this time ? The U.S and NATO might have been able to move up to Russia's borders thanks to Ukraine....but would the Chinese let them encroach right up to their border ? America has had the sense to leave North Korea alone, knowing that it would mean tangling with the Chinese again if they tried it....hopefully Trump won't attempt that sort of brinkmanship. As far as the international stage is concerned, the only comfort I find is to remind myself that things would be twice as bad if confirmed warmonger Hillary was in charge.   |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 18, 2017 8:27:48 GMT
Donald Trump On Building That Bridge
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Post by hector on Feb 18, 2017 9:22:19 GMT
Don't tell me we won't want to make use of a Donald Trump thread on plenty of occasions over the next four (eight ?) years. Plenty of 'Trump2020' T shirts already for sale on ebay, although it was the selection of 'Michelle Obama 2020' merchandise that surprised me. In any case, what are the chances of Trump surviving every assassination attempt between now and 2020 ? Hillary's approach to military engagement abroad might have been ratcheted up a notch or two,compared to Obama's,but as for domestic or economic policy, wouldn't it have been pretty much keeping things as they were ? With Trump aren't we expecting to see a significant change of direction on most fronts ? A drastic change of approach in some areas, some of which will surely be for the better Comparisons with Brexit for sure. We had a policy without a Government. The outgoing Cameron Government had fought tooth and nail against it, and the incoming May Government wouldn't have chosen to touch it with a barge pole, but was lumbered with it. The whole of the Left Wing establishment, the Universities the judiciary, the city....all thinking up whatever plans they can to block it. Now in the U.S, the big corporate media, the security apparatus, the Commie college campuses, every grievance group you can think of, formed from one minority or another, seems totally opposed to their incoming President. And yet, picking up my trusty Guardian, I was surprised to read that in Donald's opinion, as far as Brexit goes, it was the refugees that helped clinch it for us. “You look at the European Union and it’s Germany. Basically a vehicle for Germany. That’s why I thought the UK was so smart in getting out”. Trump blamed the decision of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, to welcome refugees fleeing war in the Middle East, for jeopardising the stability of Europe. “I think she made one very catastrophic mistake and that was taking all of these illegals, you know taking all of the people from wherever they come from. And nobody even knows where they come from. People, countries, want their own identity and the UK wanted its own identity. But I do believe this: if they hadn’t been forced to take in all of the refugees, so many, with all the problems that it … entails, I think that you wouldn’t have a Brexit.”link - The Guardian - Trumps view on causes of BrexitWhether some of Britain's less successful political Party leaders will review some of their unpopular policies, particularly in light of the Brexit result, and actually attempt to get more in tune with the the people of the country, we'll have to wait and see. Trump's ability to identify with the ordinary American allowed him to defeat the massed ranks of enemies who threw all they could at him before the election. Will Cap'n Corbyn take note, or is he determined to chart the same old course ? Except most people in America voted against Trump. If he is the best that this new brand of anti-politics can come up with, then heaven help the world. |
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Post by hector on Feb 18, 2017 9:30:37 GMT
Trump and Brexit are massive warning signs! Political correctness and the lefty agenda have taken it too far. It's history repeating itself, as it does because as a race of beings we tend to forget, a very similar set of occurrences happened and a nasty little one testicle dictator took advantage! We all know the rest of the story! Economy takes a dive because of the bankers, the people get pissed off, austerity kicks in pisses some the people off, immigration pisses the people off, the left start to piss the people off, erosion of the peoples identity pisses the people off......... I could go on but the bottom line is the reaction is what is unfolding in front of our very eyes! This could end up very messy! I had no hesitation in voting to leave the EU, because of the situation regarding excessive immigration and the loss of this country's ability to formulate its own laws and policies. On the other hand, I don't feel that the left's attempt to piss people off is having any effect at all, given the weakness of the Labour party in the current era. However, Aussie is quite correct in highlighting the similarity between the outrageous and arrogant remarks which the new US president continues to make, and the rantings of the so-called "leader" of Nazi Germany in the 1930s. In my opinion, we should all be extremely worried about recent statements and reported conflicts coming out of the United States of America. How did this country lose the ability to formulate its own laws? What exactly are the laws we have been unable to pass because of EU membership? And immigration? The workshy East Europeans claiming all of our benefits whilst simultaneously stealing our jobs? I remember seeing interviews with people who voted Brexit because they wanted to stop muslims coming into the country. No wonder people like Trump get elected and Brexit narrowly wins, with that sort of ignorance flying around. |
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Feb 22, 2017 23:29:51 GMT
How did this country lose the ability to formulate its own laws? What exactly are the laws we have been unable to pass because of EU membership? Well if you want two examples of an elected government (though democratic or not is open to debate without PR) being over-ruled by the EU straight off, cast your mind back 12 months to pig-sticker Cameron and his crusade to Brussels having declared that benefits would only be able to be claimed after 5 years residence for EU migrants. Only to be told by the European Commission that it would be illegal to do so. At the same time, in response to an online petition to move female sanitary products to zero rated VAT band and agreeing to do so, being told the UK could only move ahead with that if Cameron could get the other 27 EU leaders to agree to it. There's plenty more examples but I just cant be arsed to type |
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Post by hector on Feb 23, 2017 8:08:53 GMT
Earth shattering aren't they? I can exactly why people wanted to leave. Bloody Europeans and their disregard for Tampax!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 13:48:35 GMT
 A big day in the U.S tomorrow, as the people of America attend rallies and take to the streets to declare support for their President, and to voice their opposition to the Fake News Media, and the assorted Leftist agitators hell bent on bringing down the Administration. Similarities can obviously be drawn with the way loyal TUFC supporters also rejected scare stories put out by a bunch of unrepresentative militants who were, and presumably still are, determined to undermine Clarke Osborne's work that is designed to bring 'Sustainable Success' to our club. 'Almost sleeping' warned Clarke Osborne, as he set out why he'll need to wake the club up again, and start moving it in a different direction to the one it's been going in over recent years. The USA similarly, looked as if it was sleepwalking into taking further steps towards Socialism, before Donald Trump issued a loud and clear wake up call. The November Election gave the people of America the chance to reject Fake News and elect a President who would go about starting the task of rebuilding the country. The Pre - Share Issue gave the Torbay Community an opportunity to demonstrate their resolve not to be taken in by 'Ministry Of TUST' scare stories spread by the Militants. The conclusive rejection of that, as well as standing firm and refusing to be brow beaten into signing petitions to throw up obstacles and cause delays with the Council, was a demonstration of 'People Power' indicating that Riviera Stadium Limited and their model for 'Sustainable Success', has the backing of the silent majority. The small but raucous minority of militants will continue to fight against the tide of history, but their arguments become increasingly irrelevant, as both The Gulls and America are setting out on a new pathway to success. #March4Trump #ClimbingWithClarke  |
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Post by Rob on Mar 3, 2017 17:21:33 GMT
Happy Alternative Facts Day, AJ.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 21:12:52 GMT
I think it's getting to the stage where even in Britain people are saying if you've got some credible evidence then show it, rather than the Fake stuff that the media themselves clearly know wouldn't convince a 5 year old. And Rob presenting 'Mr.Dick Pic' and the girl from the Romford Recorder, is just another example of the same. Is it any wonder that U.S voters just stopped reading the Trump smear stories, as the lack of just one grain of credibility hardly made them fit even for the Beano. But for anyone who did click on Rob's link and read the article, I assume 'Schindler's Pisst !' is the conclusion you also reached ? Let's take a look at the two main characters Rob presents us with. Taking the lead role, and what an upstanding character we have in 'Mr. Dick Pic' himself....the one and only John Schindler:  But even if we're not impressed by this weirdo pervert guy who Rob wants to bring to our attention, there's no denying that Schindler is dedicated to the point of obsession, and recently tweeted that 'Trump would die in jail' amongst a selection of other choice tweets. Strange, as he doesn't look like one of those brash loud mouths you'd go out of your way to avoid  .  But let's continue to give Rob the benefit of the doubt for the time being....maybe if we examine things a bit further we'll find that nugget of credibility we're after, as surely 'The Independent' are treating this story seriously ?. I expect that they would have assigned their top Political Correspondent to a story with revelations of this magnitude. One of their most experienced political journalists at the very least........but no....it's Chloe from the Romford Recorder......with a journalistic career spanning all of 18 months ! Those scoundrels at The Independent, are well aware it's total claptrap, and probably laugh to themselves when they put it out for public consumption. Mystery peacocks in Hornchurch, Street market in Romford, spooky comedy show, Roof detaches from building on Rainham estate. link- Chloe - Romford's Finest !I expect reporting on Romford W.I's jam making competition deserved a mention as well. 18 months of reporting on life in and around Romford & District must seriously impact on your will to live, and so Chloe packed it in and went freelance a couple of months ago (January 2017). But if your assignment is to find anything, regardless of quality or credibility, that appears to trash Trump (the same assignment Rob set himself ?) then a girl from the Romford Recorder is quite capable of finding a supply of any old rubbish that is written to portray the American President in a bad light. Not only has Chloe come up with 'Trump Presidency COULD be finished' which Rob has brought to our attention, but she can churn anti Trump fake news out for The Independent all day and all night if they'd wanted. What other important, credible, and believable anti Trump stories can you tell us about this week Chloe ? What ? Trump COULD be about to kick off a war in the Balkans ?? link - Chloe Reports For Independent.....Trump About To Spark Balkans War . And what did you provide as last week's Trump smear story Chloe ?... 'Trump COULD intensify cold war in Middle East !' link - Chloe Reports For Independent......Trump Causing War In Middle East. Yet still the 'news' media go on destroying their own reputation, and harming their own business as fewer customers are willing to pay for this odious diet of fake news....while all the time the creators of it are no nearer to laying a finger on Trump. We thank Rob for providing this further example of just how bad and duplicitous the anti Trump forces actually are. |
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