European Union: In or Out ?

Are you the same "Rob" who posts on Alan Merson's site? If so, your colleague SimonB, whoever he is, certainly seems to have an irrevocable bee in his bonnet.

A few days ago, when Stewart started his post on this thread with the words "This whole subject has become a total farce",I thought he was only 95% accurate. Yet today, and after Prime Minister May has spent many years pratting around, only for her to eventually present us with 'Jezzabrex'. Who doesn't now conclude that Stewart was 100% spot on.

Let's hope that Jezza remembers what Prime Minister Cameron told both him and us back in 2016; "We will give the British people a Referendum, with a very simple in or out choice, to stay in the European Union or to come out altogether" 


This is Jezza's chance to shine, and to prove that the faith that myself and Register have clearly proclaimed to have in him over the past few years, has been entirely justified. Prime Minister in waiting, and at just the right time when there are so many disaffected Tories currently looking for a new place to put their cross in future. A statesmanlike performance in sorting out the Brexit crisis that Remainer May seems to have been making worse by the day,and Jezza can soon be telling Mrs.Jezza to add some food for Larry the cat to the weekly shopping list.

Remainer May seems to have gone demob happy. Stitching up the DUP to such an extent, it's difficult to see them being willing to prop up the Tories any further. But with the self realisation that she's toast, does Tezza really care any more ?  The evidence suggests not, and if she's deliberately (or inadvertently) added to her legacy the dismantling of the modern Conservative Party, then that will be one considerable positive I could readily acclaim.

Now let's see Jezza go to work in the National Interest,and await what he comes up with.

Viva Venezuela !  

It seems very strange to me that the decision resulting from the 2016 referendum has now been deemed by remainers to be ADVISORY. And yet if there is a second vote by the public, which will be totally undemocratic, it should be passed into British law in the opinion by those who want Brexit to be cancelled, if the opposite result happens. Where is the logic in that?

During the past few days we have all seen the odious face of Alistair Campbell appearing on a daily basis on our TV screens. What has really got my goat is that he has accused all of us who voted to leave of being taken in by lies and criminal activity. I would like him to know that I, for one, and probably for millions of others, reached my own decision well before any propaganda by either side was released. I am far from being stupid, as he implies.

Parliamentary MPs who continually get up from their seats and say that they have FACTS which prove that Brexit will be a disaster are totally deluded. Neither they nor those who support leaving the EU have any FACTS, as it is all personal opinion, rumour and speculation. Only after we have departed from this undemocratic body, in accordance with the wishes of the public, will we really know what the FACTS actually are.

Floridagull 

'Quite clear' is actually an understatement, Floridalgull. The Establishment are currently working towards a way of making it a cast iron certainty. They are gradually plotting to see if they could be brazen enough to offer us a choice between 'Remain' or err, 'Remain'.

Remember above all that 'Leave's popularity was predicated on the public's desire to 'Take Back Control'. If Leave can be flipped on it's head so that our Remainer politicians make it stand for giving away control instead, i.e in fact having even less control than we do now under Remain, then the whole point of a Leave vote is destroyed in an instant.

That is the rationale between the current desire to propose staying in the Customs Union despite having left the EU. It's a Remainer created version of Leave designed especially, as they know no one wanting to 'Take back control' would vote for it. For instance, as many have pointed out, 'The Conservative Party is about to connive with Labour to ensure the UK stays in the EU Customs Union. This would mean a Latvian MEP would have more say over UK trade policy than any elected politician in the United Kingdom'. A humiliation for the world's 5th biggest economy that Ken Clarke, Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer, Remainer May etc, correctly realise that if they can now attach it to 'Leave', then they've instead transformed it into a horrible form of 'Remain'.......which surprise, surprise, might have the added advantage of knocking a good 10 million off the 'Leave' vote, should the nicely rigged 2nd Referendum be necessary. 

Then add on top: By ruling out 'no deal', Parliament incentivised the EU to offer us the worst deal possible. It was one very big trump card we held. What an utterly ridiculous thing Parliament did that day.

The Establishment have decimated Brexit so conclusively that it is hard to imagine that whatever entrails of 'Leave' still survive, now appeal to anyone. Given the 'choice' between two versions of 'Remain' you'd see a huge number that would boycott such a sham. A result of 24 million votes for 'Remain' and 750,000 for faux 'Leave' would underline that the British ruling class had turned the concept of democracy into a total joke.

Thank goodness we've got promotion to occasionally take our minds off contemplating the depths to which our country has been brought by it's shameful current collection of MP's. A plague on all their houses.

Remainer May wandering around Europe begging to be allowed to stay in the EU, while the country's recently appointed Brexit Prime Minister remains back here trying to sort out the mess. I only hope the good people of Cheshunt, and voters throughout the land recognise the efforts that Jezza is making in trying to unravel the mess that our current Remainer Government has spent almost 3 years creating.







It's a total mystery to many working class folk, why the majority decision to leave, taken almost 3 years ago, can't be implemented in a proper democratic manner, far sooner than this. Trying to explain the situation by using something they can relate to, e.g Burger King, is a step in the right direction I suppose, but they also need to know that Mr.Corbyn is sparing no efforts to get Brexit done and dusted. 

www.ipso.co.uk/rulings-and-resolution-statements/ruling/?id=00154-19

www.pressgazette.co.uk/boris-johnson-telegraph-column-breaches-ipso-accuracy-rules-with-no-deal-brexit-popularity-claim/

More Johnson lies in his Daily Telegraph column ruled against by IPSO, the press standards watchdog. All will remember the 2016 pre plebiscite BullshitBus lies amongst others. This time the ruled against claim was that No Deal was the most popular choice among the electorate. Officially given AJ’s Fake News stamp of old.

Oddly, the Daily Telegraph tried to defend on the basis that his article was comical. Well, he is a Clown, I suppose. Like Farage. Habitual liar.

It’s disinformation, often that nasty right wing lunatics spread, when an atrocity occurs. Just as they have done with Christchurch.

The lie mantra for the Christchurch massacre is that it was a staged event to change gun controls and shame racist ideology by either government or ‘leftist’ forces. Many a racist xenophobic cretin gets sucked in by such rubbish perpetrated by right wing conspiracy sites on the internet. Why does it not surprise me that you are one of them.