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Post by Rob on Feb 19, 2019 18:44:50 GMT
Sir James Ratcliffe, Britain's richest man and leading Brexiter, has so much faith in this country he is buggering off to Monaco so he can pay less tax. That means less money for the government to spend on things like the unemployment benefit for all the Swindon car workers when Honda bugger off. Don't worry it's only project fear. It's fcuk all to do with Project Fear or Brexit. Maybe if successive greedy governments hadn't set tax rate for high earners at 45%, they might be inclined to stay and pay their dues at the same rate as the rest of the tax-paying electorate. I've never understood why success has to be penalised. 20-25% of billions is still a lot of money, but the government prefers to drive these high earners out of the country, which benefits absolutely no-one. To be fair, no British Government is ever going to be able to offer that particular leading Brexiteer the same tax haven treatment as his chosen destination, so I wouldn’t get your knickers in a twist on that point, Flo. Admittedly some millionaire Brexit nutjobs and those taken in by their shite may fancy Britain as a large Cayman Islands or Monaco style tax haven as part of a post Brexit utopia for them and their investments. Nice of Ratcliffe to offer his backing to fcucking us up before he buggered off, though. He’ll have been greatful for the significant public investment that assisted his chemical business, but he’ll now be taking his Brexit ‘principles’ and money to Monaco and no doubt hedging it against Britain along with the Paddy Rees-O’Moggs of this world. |
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Post by Rob on Feb 19, 2019 19:26:22 GMT
It’s got everything to do with the hypocrisy of the Brexit Millionaire Set, though. Monaco sounds dreadful, Flo.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 19:28:47 GMT
So tomorrow it begins...March!
The month when this country is set to be 'Sold Down the River!'
There are a number of options on the table, all except one, being a total betrayal of the people of this country! We all know that 'The One', has no chance of being an option, which means that this country will go down the shitter faster than one of my dumps after Mrs Register's curry nights!
I for one, will not be looking at the tinternet or papers throughout this month! It's bad enough when some one/thing you love dies...it's even worse if you have to watch it happen!
I notice that Corbett is now pushing for another Referendum...thereby, listening to the will of the people...not!
'Beware the Ides of March'... poor old Julius was stabbed in the back in March! It looks like 17 million+ people in this country, are going to suffer the same fate!
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Post by stefano on Feb 28, 2019 21:11:28 GMT
'Beware the Ides of March'... poor old Julius was stabbed in the back in March! It looks like 17 million+ people in this country, are going to suffer the same fate! Population of UK is 67 million so I can think of no reason why the views of only 25% of the population expressed in an opinion poll should override the best interests of the country. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 12:37:47 GMT
'Beware the Ides of March'... poor old Julius was stabbed in the back in March! It looks like 17 million+ people in this country, are going to suffer the same fate! Population of UK is 67 million so I can think of no reason why the views of only 25% of the population expressed in an opinion poll should override the best interests of the country. The reason why over half the people in this country didn't bother to vote is simple, it's because in the countries they originally came from, there was no point voting, because corrupt governments would overturn the wishes of the people...wait a minute! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 15:11:04 GMT
'Beware the Ides of March'... poor old Julius was stabbed in the back in March! It looks like 17 million+ people in this country, are going to suffer the same fate! Population of UK is 67 million so I can think of no reason why the views of only 25% of the population expressed in an opinion poll should override the best interests of the country. Why don't you check your facts like Flo does stefano!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 15:15:05 GMT
The reason why over half the people in this country didn't bother to vote is simple, it's because in the countries they originally came from, there was no point voting, because corrupt governments would overturn the wishes of the people...wait a minute! All winking aside, there are not 67 million people eligible to vote in UK. It was 45.8m in 2016, so, as the total votes in the referendum were circa 33.5m, it means 12.3m chose not to vote, for reasons only they can say. As a percentage, the referendum voters represented an approximate 73% participation, a figure on par with the average turnout for general elections. I notice one thing the remainers never mention is that the highest reported turnout at a European Parliament election in the UK was 38.5% in 2004; this followed a record low of 24.0% in 1999. Full facts and figures can be found here: researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8060%23fullreportI must admit, I had a bit of a shock when I read your first three words there Flo...thought I might have inadvertently left my Skype on!  |
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Post by stefano on Mar 2, 2019 8:20:58 GMT
..... it means 12.3m chose not to vote, for reasons only they can say. It was Glastonbury Festival and there was no polling booth on site |
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Post by stefano on Mar 2, 2019 8:23:50 GMT
Why don't you check your facts like Flo does stefano! No need Reg, no need. I already knew it without looking it up! |
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Post by stewart on Mar 13, 2019 23:05:58 GMT
They have voted against May's deal and against no deal. What if they vote against extending Article 50 tomorrow?
This should all have been done and dusted by the end of 2016, before all of the rumours and speculations about the effect on business were thought up.
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Post by Rob on Mar 14, 2019 0:50:03 GMT
They have voted against May's deal and against no deal. What if they vote against extending Article 50 tomorrow? Shouldn’t think they will. |
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Post by stewart on Mar 15, 2019 0:33:16 GMT
They have voted against May's deal and against no deal. What if they vote against extending Article 50 tomorrow? Shouldn’t think they will. You are right, they didn't, but to all intents and purposes we are now back at square one and almost three years have been wasted by this crippled Tory party. |
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Post by rjdgull on Mar 15, 2019 7:23:33 GMT
Three options now
1) Accept May deal
2) Re-open negotiations with different red lines and long extension - ie Norway deal
3) Revoke article 50
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Post by stewart on Mar 19, 2019 0:56:01 GMT
Shouldn’t think they will. You are right, they didn't, but to all intents and purposes we are now back at square one and almost three years have been wasted by this crippled Tory party. Even further back than at square one now as the smug and arrogant speaker, who is well known to be an ardent opponent of Brexit, has invoked a ruling dating back 415 years in order to put parliament in a total logjam. He is so full of his own self-importance and it would be a welcome move if a majority of MPs would stand up and demand what Leo Amory said to Neville Chamberlain in 1940, "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go". I can't see that there can be any other outcome to this debacle than a general election. In all of the 54 years when I have been able to vote, I have never even thought for one moment that I might vote Labour, but the Tories have totally screwed up what should have been a relatively easy process. The problem with Labour, though, is the two wizened and Trotskyist leaders, Corbyn and McDonnell, who invoke memories of Harold Wilson with his gannex raincoat and Michael Foot's duffel coat. If either Keir Starmer or Hilary Benn were leader, or possibly even Yvette Cooper, then I might be tempted to vote accordingly, as they are all reasonable and sensible debaters whose integrity cannot be doubted. Corbyn and McDonnell, no chance. |
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Post by Rob on Mar 19, 2019 1:39:00 GMT
I’d take Starmer and Watson over that pair, myself. Quite understand you singling out Yvette Cooper after some searching amendments together with MPs from other parties in this parliamentary farce. Would like to have seen the series of indicative votes idea and cross party talks carried out from 2016 onwards, myself.
The continued infighting within the ruling party for the lion’s share of the last 3 years followed by Labour divisions coming to the fore more recently have been a dreadful sideshow after the shameful campaigns of both Leave and Remain that politicians served up for the public in 2016.
I take it a Lib Dem or other vote is off the menu in Stewart Towers? I only ask as I for one can’t get excited by either of the main parties were there to be a general election ‘tomorrow’ as neither has covered themselves in glory over the big issue of the day on their front benches. Certaiin backbench types don’t inspire either.
It’s not the decision I want to be voting on next. As you may have guessed. But that circular argument is not for this late hour. Not tonight from me, anyway.
Already some are urging for whole scale deselection processes, which will no doubt be publicity bankrolled in some instances and mirror the crappy politics we’ve been suffering since 2016 propelling us to another fractious Groundhog Day were it to happen. Is that why people have ever wanted a General Election before? No. What a sorry state of affairs.
My gut feeling was Bercow will end up allowing Meaningful Vote 3 but has set his stall out that MV4 won’t be happening before Thursday’s plane departs. But I haven’t read any of the main news outlets proferring my hunch, so like everyone else the actual next steps for either tomorrow, Thursday or next week seem unclear.
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