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Post by Dave on Dec 2, 2008 22:37:29 GMT
Many thanks Sean for letting us know the view of the club and Paul's, as you say he will attract other clubs to come in for him.lets hope that he will get us up to Div one before he even considers one single offer.
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Post by suepowell on Dec 2, 2008 23:20:31 GMT
But Sean DOESN'T know the view of the club, does he? And his comment about 'full' board members is nonsense - he's not one, so how would he know?
I am heartily sick of all this backbiting, petty crap. It's one of the main things that held us back all these years. And don't give me all that nonsense about not knowing the whole story: I know plenty enough to make a fairly informed decision, thank you. And that decision is: real men don't renege. Especially when the youth set-up had sod all to do with the disagreement.
I'd think more of Sean if he swallowed his pride, separated out his private arrangements from his commercial deals, and agreed to reinstate his firm's much-needed sponsorship of the youth teams. Matt, Paul and Robbie are doing a splendid job: our youth set up is, £ for £, already much more successful than, for example, Chelsea's in terms of bringing on youngsters to first-team standard. I'm sure being linked with that sort of success story wouldn't do City Link any harm whatsoever.
Sean can then sort out his private arrangements with 'people' at the club exactly as they should be done - privately. I would also suggest that he declines to offer 'inside stories' to operators/managers of web sites who then spend inordinate amounts of time and space smugly wittering on about how they know the background to this, that or the other.
As to Bucks, it's harsh, but he's achieved nothing yet, and a move to anywhere, let alone a busted flush like Oxford, would not seem to be a good one for him (for them, though, yes). I'm sure he'll prove miles better than to settle for the likes of Oxford.
In any case, this is now danger time. Wasn't it this time-ish last season that we lost a crap game to a crap team in a crap competition and then went on a downward spiral that we never really came out of? I would suggest that Buckle concentrates his mind on that.
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Post by Dave on Dec 2, 2008 23:33:35 GMT
Thanks for your first post Sue and you have not minced you words,you have said what you felt you needed to say.
I would fully agree that the matters should be sorted out privately and It would be good if the sponsorship could be some how sorted out, so the youth team does not suffer.
I feel you words about the site managers is a little unfair. Sean is a member on here and as such I felt it best to not let posts get out of order as they may well have done. He assured me City Link Builders were not in any sort of financial trouble, my aim was to not let such stories start or get out of hand on here.
I spent the time I felt I needed on the thread and getting people writing and sharing their views, Is what I need to do, to make the forum work. I also do not consider I was smug in any way, believe me I wish I could have told all I know, but you will understand why I couldn't.
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Post by daveshaw on Dec 3, 2008 13:16:10 GMT
Like Sue i'm completely fed up of the we're in the know but can't tell you bollox. If we don't have the full story we'll draw our own conclusions. So can someone tell me what exactly is going on? If City Link Builders have gone back on their word, then why? If it's an ego battle then the youth set up is the loser because of it.
What is the problem here? Why are we protecting people who don't need it?
Have we gone back to the Bateson clique versus normal people days when you couldn't ask questions? So bring it out in the open so we can draw our own conclusions. Or is it down to people spitting out their dummy and trying to justify their position while threatening to make it difficult if anyone speaks out? Tell the truth and let the law be damned!
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Post by Rob on Dec 3, 2008 16:42:37 GMT
Like everyone else, I can't see Buckle being interested in the Oxford position.
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Post by Dave on Dec 3, 2008 17:01:22 GMT
The title of this thread was Would Oxford Want Bucks, a simple question really, our man has just broken a club record, they just sacked their man, so why have we gone back to Sean and his sponsorship deal?
Sean made a post and said that the board were fully backing Buckle, but Sue tells us what we already knew that Sean is not a part of the board at Plainmoor.
Sean is a good friend of Paul Buckle and I'm sure once they have discussed how the kids pet rabbits are doing, they may just talk about TUFC. I'm pretty sure Bucks will know if he has the backing of the board or not and as he talks to Sean, I would say there is a very good chance Sean would know also.
Sues post sure opened the door for Dave Shaw, did you notice folks he made a pleasant post in the week, I nearly voted for it ;)Anyway he seems to think that Sean is somehow being protected.Let me tell you Dave that Sean does not need 5ft 4inch Dave to protect him, you had better trust me on this, Sean knows how to protect himself very well and knows many ways.
We know the club put a statement on its website, Sean did not like the way it was worded, this man has 40 builders working for him, you can understand why he would feel the need to protect the name of his company. I was told what the problem was, I did not want anti Sean posts or anti City Link posts, that was because of what I was told.
The thread title was I believe Time For Answers From The Board, but as we know they have not given any at all. My last post on that thread, stated I had been told the other side and that matters were going to court, so I really felt that it was best, no more should be said about the matter.
Maybe you would like to ask Sean for the answers that seem so important to you, you can sent a PM, or I will supply his email, or company phone number, if he says Its Ok I'll even give you his mobile number, its far better coming from the horses mouth.
Sean has not been protected by the forum, he is a member, explained his case and if it was you or anyone else I would have gone down the same road. You should not forget Dave , how unhappy you were about a few PMs you received. You made me aware and I took the matter up with the member, who had sent them. I will always do my best to make sure any member is not hung drawn or quartered until he his proved guilty of some crime.
Sean has not as far as I know has committed no crime, so take my advice and ask Sean the questions you have, you may just find he is an OK bloke to talk too.
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Post by joebarlow on Dec 3, 2008 22:53:11 GMT
On the Oxford Untied website thier chairman has said about the search for a new manager and said:
"We`ve had quite a few (Apllications) already. Probably close to 25 serious applications from managers with credentials"
"we will keep the door open (for applications) till Monday 8th"
"we have to make sure we bring in the one with the most (credentials). Enthusiasm, [glow=red,2,300]experience[/glow], energy all those kinds of words are what we are looking for"
"I`m not going to put a time scale on it. Ideally we would like somebody by the January transfer window"
Seems like Buckle might not get it anyway seeing as the chairman is looking for someone with experince.
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Post by Dave on Dec 3, 2008 22:58:12 GMT
Joe I do not even think he is in the frame or ever was, as he is in his second year you can't say he does not have experience, maybe the word proven would have been a better choice.
With all the problems at Oxford, it really would not a good move at this time anyway, plus I'm sure he knows that staying here and getting the team up, will open much bigger doors for him next season.
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Post by daveshaw on Dec 4, 2008 7:32:19 GMT
Dave, i wasn't having a go at sean. Simply asking for clarification. The reference to protection was to the truth of the matter, which we don't know because no-one is putting it out there. I completely accept that sean is a pillar of the community and has done admirable work for youth football. That's what makes it difficult to understand. If it's not for the public domain then no problem. My apologies if i've accidently opened a can of worms best left closed.
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on Dec 4, 2008 10:16:13 GMT
Like everyone else, I can't see Buckle being interested in the Oxford position. Seeing this tiny little sentence in response to the thread title isolated in the middle of the completely unrelated war of words that has escalated in this thread made me laugh out loud. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but Rob, I tip my hat to you Sir.
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Post by Jon on Dec 4, 2008 13:55:31 GMT
Like everyone else, I can't see Buckle being interested in the Oxford position. Seeing this tiny little sentence in response to the thread title isolated in the middle of the completely unrelated war of words that has escalated in this thread made me laugh out loud. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but Rob, I tip my hat to you Sir. A finely-tuned legal mind cuts through the extraneous detail and gets straight to the point at issue.
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Post by Dave on Dec 4, 2008 16:58:52 GMT
Dave Shaw, I was just taken back by Sues post and then yours followed, as I said it is a matter now really best left alone, you will find some answers in Sues posts, but not the detail, I would expect in time all will come out, but as I really don't know if it went to court, or is still waiting too go , I could only guess when.
Sean felt strongly about what happened, as a result pulled his sponsorship, there are real lessons that the club need to learn from all that has gone on, to prevent it ever happening again.
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Post by Rob on Dec 4, 2008 22:01:45 GMT
Having said that, Oxford would probably want him, though.
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Post by pikeygull on Dec 4, 2008 22:34:57 GMT
Jim Smith stated tonight that their next manager will have to come to them without a transfer fee. They can't afford to buy anybody out of their current contract. So I expect the new manager to be someone currently out of work
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Post by Dave on Dec 4, 2008 22:38:39 GMT
No matter what anyone may think of Oxford or any of their players, I thought it was good for Jim to get a win tonight, at his age and having to step in again he deserved it.
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