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Post by aussie on Nov 30, 2008 11:03:57 GMT
Oxford fans in our end and what do the stewards do, for about 10 mins nothing at all. I don`t know who is more of a disgrace the Oxford gobbshites who didn`t actually do anything just pretended they wanted to or the stewards for not immediately ejecting the opposition fans in our end. I always thought that insighting a riot or trying to was actually a criminal offence, oh yeah I forgot it`s more important to hand out pairs of flip-flops to pissed up tarts than actually arrest someone for a crime committed! Shocking, I was very close to what was going on, a mate of mine bought his son along, I think he`s about 8 or 9 years old he was so frightened he wanted to go home. Now he could see and understand what was happening so how the hell can the stewards have not even noticed 30 to 40 oxford fans trying to start a ruck right next to them or did they simply just shit themselves until more turned up, their pathetic. The oxford fans are pathetic and their team is crap! They deserve to lose, they deserve to drive all the way home with nothing, and in my opinion they should not be aloud to breed. True scum!
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Post by pikeygull on Nov 30, 2008 11:20:14 GMT
Amen to that.
It was the same when we played Swindon Town when we were in the league.
Fans were all over the steps standing everywhere in front of the grandstand. When they scored I'm sure they were jumping on the dugouts.
Where were the stewards??? Yes on the popside telling people to get of the yellow lines. When it was pointed out what the away fans were up to there response was that it may escalate in to a serious problem.
Well if it was well stewarded in the first place and they weren't caught with there pants down like yesterday this problems wouldn't come to light.
Stewards are definitely better at marshalling Yellow steps.
Did anyone notice a game earlier this season when the away fans (about 50 or so) all stood together in a huddle behind the goal then about 5-6 steward came over to move them of the "Yellow Lines" An absolute joke. It was hardly a crush situation and this aggravated the fans more than was necessary.
In fairness to them, there hasn't been the problems of when we were in the league.
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Post by aussie on Nov 30, 2008 11:28:09 GMT
It`s the same when Eggshitter come down, the amount of away fans allowed in our end and goes un-noticed by the stewards, makes me wonder whether or not we need to go into that end tooled up or they just give our stand to the opposition and be done with it. I will be bringing this up with the club monday morning, a line needs to be clearly drawn on this. There were kids there very very scarred, they should never be made to feel scarred especially at home!
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Post by Dave on Nov 30, 2008 11:49:59 GMT
If our stewards were aware we had away fans on the popside, then they should have got them removed, into the away end. It does get me mad at times, how the stewards keep on at the kids about the yellow lines.
We have in the past seen these stewards look for any opportunity to wade into our own home fans, but many we have now seem new and not those responsible for our past problems.
The club has a major responsibility to ensure the safety of all people who are in the ground and real questions need to be asked, why the Oxford fans were not removed.
On answer that will be used is that it may be by trying to move them, then trouble would start, OK maybe that would happen, but home fans who have paid to get in, should have the right to feel safe while standing in a home stand, one that is meant for home fans only.
I remember the days when we had our own stewards and they were local and we knew them, one such steward was a Newton man and I always talked with him, when I arrived at the ground.We were playing Bristol City I think but it could have bee rovers.
I was shocked to learn that the stewards were under instruction from Bateson, to let Bristol fans into the home stands, then once there as soon as they made themselves known, to remove them from the ground. This was done purely to get as much income from the game as possible.
I was angry about this at the time, my view was that the safely of the home fans should always be put first, before the club concerned itself with maximizing the income from the game.
I hope you get some answers from the club aussie, I'm sure the board we have now, would not do what Bateson did and would I hope sort this out so our fans do not feel frightened in their own stands. Such events will do nothing to build up gates that are already falling.
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Post by fredgull on Nov 30, 2008 13:16:12 GMT
I think the steward thing is a difficult one cos if you get a load of hardnuts who think their role is being hard and taking no crap then we would all be moaning like we have done in the past about them being too aggressive. Most of these stewards are doing it just to watch the game for free and getting paid at the same time. They have a limited amount of training and most of them probably don't want to make a situation worse which could potentially be more of a risk to the kids and innocent people who happen to be in the vicinity. I think sometimes we expect them to do the job of a policeman which clearly they are not trained to be. Do any of you want to be a steward? Think you could handle it better? Not sure you could. The only real answer is to have a limited amount of police at every game just in case.
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Post by Dave on Nov 30, 2008 13:25:51 GMT
fredgull,sorry but you are not correct with your facts on the stewards. Firstly they are not there to watch the game and all work for a Plymouth Security firm, there job is only to watch the crowd and should not be watching any of the game.
They are all trained and have a certificate, not sure of all the elements that they would be trained in, but safety would sure be one. No we do not want a return to the days when this company first started doing the job, but all fans have a basic right to feel safe in their own stands.
Any away fans once spotted should be removed, there is no good excuse not too.
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 30, 2008 13:41:35 GMT
To be fair to the stewards, at least they make us take the tops off of our bottles of drink.  |
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Post by fredgull on Nov 30, 2008 14:59:56 GMT
Apologies Dave R for not getting my facts correct. I thought we had gone back to the old days when the locals did the job.
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Post by forevertufc on Nov 30, 2008 15:01:01 GMT
i was stood behind them saw the stewards come over so they must have know they were oxford fans there was 2 police over there as well, when they started singing we are the oxford boys they did nothing ,even when i-2 torquay -oxford fans were in each others face's they did not move ,it was only when it became clear a fight was going to start they moved in PATHETIC STEWARDS
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Post by Dave on Nov 30, 2008 15:33:51 GMT
Apologies Dave R for not getting my facts correct. I thought we had gone back to the old days when the locals did the job. No problems fredgull, they way they have been behaving themselves lately, you would think we were back to the good old days, of having our own stewards.  |
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Post by mike on Nov 30, 2008 15:37:34 GMT
To be fair to the stewards, at least they make us take the tops off of our bottles of drink. And they were very brave and burst a few balloons that the Club had handed out to supporters!!! |
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Post by merse on Nov 30, 2008 15:46:35 GMT
And they were very brave and burst a few balloons that the Club had handed out to supporters!!!  That'll please Dave................very mention of the word "balloon" and he goes ballistic.  I can just picture him yesterday, climbing up to the top of a crush barrier so he can land on them from a great height!  |
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Post by Dave on Nov 30, 2008 15:52:10 GMT
That'll please Dave................very mention of the word "balloon" and he goes ballistic. and thats why my act did not have balloon modeling in it  |
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Post by jmgull on Nov 30, 2008 17:35:20 GMT
It seems there has been a definite change in policy regarding our stewards.........ZERO confrontation. I sit in the main grandstand and at the end of the game rather than go out of one of the home exits it is quicker for me to go out of the away end exit. I got to the exit and noticed that there was an altercation going on with a group of leaving Oxford fans and 5 or 6 stewards - one fan in particular was getting very animated and was screaming at one steward in particular......he then preceeded to spit right in his face. What happened to him?...........nothing! - he was allowed to walk out scot free. I couldnt believe it - i asked one of the half dozen or so policeman near the incident why he was allowed to get away with that - he replied that it was down to the stewards to ask for assistance. ...what is this country coming to  |
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Post by atheringtongull on Nov 30, 2008 19:41:09 GMT
To be fair to the stewards, at least they make us take the tops off of our bottles of drink. Just in case I get caught with a top on my bottle of water, I always carry a spare in my pocket!!! It's not easy shouting and waving arms about with a bottle without a top. If I get caught do you think I might get banned for life? |
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