treetopsringwood
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Post by treetopsringwood on Nov 13, 2008 16:42:24 GMT
John Hollins is reportedly suspended by Weymouth for apparent breach of contract ( as notified by BBC ceefax)
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Post by crooky on Nov 13, 2008 17:21:50 GMT
In other words Weymouth are skint and want to get him off the wage bill? ;D
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merse
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Post by merse on Nov 13, 2008 19:41:21 GMT
 John Hollins doesn't appear to have much luck with the recent clubs he's managed. A couple appalling examples of how not to run a club in Crawley and Weymouth seem to be the only ones willing to engage a hugely experienced and capable manager. Is it those very attributes that scare off all but the really desperate? After all there must be loads of club chairmen out there who know in their hearts that he will have forgotten more about the game than they will ever hope to know. Mike Bateson was like that wasn't he............ Guys like Dave Smith, Neil Warnock and Roy McFarland told him in no uncertain terms how the club needed to be run and they were soon looking for the exit door to be "replaced" (or more accurately succeeded) by veritable novices John Impey, Don O'Riordon, and Leroy Rosenior. Although I heard a story once about Hollins' rather "unusual" contract details whilst he was at Swansea and then Rochdale that may be the source of the problem at Weymouth if repeated there, I hope he takes them for every penny due to him as he's come into a dreadfully under resourced and under financed club heading for the drop; radically sorted the trouble out and STILL they lurch from one Pythonesque crisis to another as if to deliberately undermine all the professionalism that he has instilled in such a short space of time.
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Post by Rob on Nov 13, 2008 20:35:49 GMT
I would totally echo Merse's comments regarding Hollins. They had started to come good again bar a reverse at the weekend and one thing Hollins has demonstrated in terms of his teams is a level of organisation and ability to shut the back door on the opposition and grind out results. Something a cash strapped club could well regret getting rid of, as seems destined to be the case.
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Jon
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Post by Jon on Nov 13, 2008 22:42:13 GMT
to be "replaced" (or more accurately succeeded) by veritable novices John Impey, Don O'Riordon, and Leroy Rosenior. Two of whom succeeded in winning promotion! John Impey by reinvigorating the team that had totally lost its way under Dave Smith and Rosenior by taking a squad that had struggled to avoid relegation whilst producing dreadfully dull football under McFarland and turning them into a team that played the most sparkling fooftball seen at Plainmoor in donkeys' years. If it weren't for cheating Raynor, of course, Don O would have succeeded in getting promotion too! |
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Post by merse on Nov 14, 2008 4:18:05 GMT
to be "replaced" (or more accurately succeeded) by veritable novices John Impey, Don O'Riordon, and Leroy Rosenior. Two of whom succeeded in winning promotion! John Impey by reinvigorating the team that had totally lost its way under Dave Smith and Rosenior by taking a squad that had struggled to avoid relegation whilst producing dreadfully dull football under McFarland and turning them into a team that played the most sparkling fooftball seen at Plainmoor in donkeys' years. If it weren't for cheating Raynor, of course, Don O would have succeeded in getting promotion too! Granted, but that's not the point in question. The point I was making was that there are a good few chairmen who will not or cannot run their clubs in the manner to which senior and accomplished managers set out for them. They then opt for the inexperienced and those willing to compromise in order to gain a foothold in the game and thus see their clubs fail to achieve any sort of sustainable progress rather than a "boom and bust" existence. |
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Post by Jon on Nov 15, 2008 10:44:57 GMT
The point I was making was that there are a good few chairmen who will not or cannot run their clubs in the manner to which senior and accomplished managers set out for them....... and thus see their clubs fail to achieve any sort of sustainable progress rather than a "boom and bust" existence. Yes, but you and Gordon Brown are the only two people in the world who think that they can do better than "boom and bust"! After I started supporting TUFC, I had 17 seasons of "bust and bust", so I found the introduction of "boom and bust" quite refreshing! I think most people's expectation levels are formed during their teenage years - so I suppose people who were in their teens in that short but magical period of 1965-71 have a more jaundiced view of what has gone on since. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2008 11:20:22 GMT
Jon, that's a very good and interesting point about the teenage years. It's probably true for many people, although I can think of extremely jaundiced individuals who reached that age during the times when nothing happened (so to speak) between the mid 1970s and 1980s.
I became a teenager during the 68/69 season which was just after the high peak. The crash back to the mundane world of Division 4 occured during my sixth form years (1972-74) and has, just about, saved me from becoming too weepy-eyed and nostalgic about those earlier times. Maybe I should thank Jack Edwards and Malcolm Musgrove for my eventual stoicism - and Allan Brown for assisting me through the transition from childhood to teenage years?
The one thing I have retained from my early teenage years is a largely indifferent attitude to Exeter City and a rather stronger set of feelings towards Plimuff Gargoyle.
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