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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 12:55:56 GMT
A copy of GOAL magazine (14/12/1968) to anyone who can identify, from the (hopefully) attached collage, the species of moth which landed on us in Totnes, the black and white duck at Slimbridge, the place where the gulls were photographed and the football ground in the B & W photo. Tie break: According to GOAL, Torquay United offered which two players to Exeter City in exchange for Cec Smyth and Alan Banks? Attachments:
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Post by Budleigh on Jul 14, 2012 13:34:13 GMT
Can only comment on the ground... which would be unfair on those going for the whole thing. But it really is a great angle for a picture which makes a large ground seem almost non-league!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 14:10:18 GMT
If it were in colour it would give the game away! I should have said, to make it easier, that the black headed gulls (in winter so without their black heads) were in a pretty spot in South Devon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 16:27:20 GMT
OK. To encourage Gulls supporters to enter the quiz, the front cover of the magazine would make useful target practice if placed over your dartboard.
Now some clues:
The team that plays on the pictured ground has had nowt to crow about recently, the gulls are at a place which makes half of Torbay (the first half) annoyed, the moth could be a cat of ill-repute and the duck sounds like a woman to get down after on a cosy bed.
One of the players turned down by Exeter upset Ros Banner. The other, for whom I can't be bothered to think up a cryptic clue, was Bobby Baxter.
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Post by petef on Jul 15, 2012 18:44:59 GMT
Goal, I used to subscribe every week and still have some pics in my Torquay Utd scrapbook of that time and also purchased the occasional "Shoot"mag which didn't really impress me at the time. My dear late Mum mail ordered a track suite in a stunning fleece type of maroon - price about 59/6d delivered if I recall and pre shell suite era. Ill have a bit of a go ignoring your clues Wlidebeeste... Moth - Tiger moth of some type. Duck - Golden eye Place - Could sp many places but I wiLl guess Slapton Ley Football ground is Valley Parade Bradford. Other Tufc player was Ronnie Barnes. They must have been crazy two great players for us in the late sixties!  |
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jul 15, 2012 18:48:54 GMT
I think I know what ground it is - although that end isn't too different from Southend United's Roots Hall or Griffin Park, Brentford. As for the others, no doubt the more worldly-wise will know!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 19:24:22 GMT
The prize is yours! Good thing you ignored the clue, Pete, because you are right. They are Golden Eyes, and not Eiders as I thought earlier before Mrs B put me right. The gulls are at Torcross by Slapton Ley and the moth is a scarlet tiger. And I agree, Goal was better than Shoot, but the best of all in my opinion was Football Weekly News, which came out around 1980 but only lasted a year or two. If you'd like to collect your mag, send me a message with an address on it, and I'll chuck in a free Soccer Star as well to make up for the embarrassing duck mix-up.  |
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Post by petef on Jul 15, 2012 19:56:11 GMT
The prize is yours! Good thing you ignored the clue, Pete, because you are right. They are Golden Eyes, and not Eiders as I thought earlier before Mrs B put me right. The gulls are at Torcross by Slapton Ley and the moth is a scarlet tiger. And I agree, Goal was better than Shoot, but the best of all in my opinion was Football Weekly News, which came out around 1980 but only lasted a year or two. If you'd like to collect your mag, send me a message with an address on it, and I'll chuck in a free Soccer Star as well to make up for the embarrassing duck mix-up. :oBlimey surprised myself there must be the shock of seeing the sun out today  Thanks for setting up the quiz the message boards get a bit stagnant at this time of year and its a bit of fun .Maybe I can set one up myself in the future - youve passed the batton as it were. Can't wait to read that Goal mag it's sure to bring back plenty of late childhood memories. Must say I cant remember the others you mention I guess my reading taste had moved on a bit by the eighties. Always read the Football League Review mind a free mag included with the programme. Will message you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 20:02:46 GMT
And I agree, Goal was better than Shoot, but the best of all in my opinion was Football Weekly News, which came out around 1980 but only lasted a year or two. When to comes to football magazines, the past is as usual: a mixture of the good, the bad and the indifferent; the unforgettable and the easily forgotten. But, whatever the quality, there was always enough to keep me amused when it was pissing down throughout the long school holidays and rain had stopped play at the test match. Now wasn't the Football League Review a bloody strange publication? I remember the unforgettable Foul! magazine doing a skit on it when they renamed the erstwhile Walter Pilkington as Porky Wankerton. Quite rightly too. Jimmy Hill had a go with his own weekly magazine cleverly called Jimmy Hill's Football Weekly; a classic case of style over content. And, by my time anyway, I thought dear old Charlie Buchan's Football Monthly was rather resting on its laurels. It was, well, dowdy and twenty years behind the times. Goal was a sort of weekly Buchan's and was all the rage for a while. I had a letter published one week and, a year or two back, I picked up a copy of the edition in question in a shop in Newcastle. It was rather like seeing Monty Python again: to think we made such a fuss of that? But, I'll put my hands up: I bought it every week from start to finish. Wasn't Shoot! aimed for a slightly younger market? It arrived too late for me. Much preferred Soccer Star (dowdy, yes, but perfect for the news and facts junkies amongst us) and - yes - Football Weekly News was excellent but probably hardly noticed by the football public. It certainly came out throughout 1979/80. Does anyone remember the Book of Football part-work published by Marshall Cavendish in the early seventies? Absolutely superb! And, like all good part-works, you never knew what was going to be featured when. In total one-hundred-and-forty football clubs were covered over seventy-four weeks. For those who were patient, Chesterfield was number 135 in the sequence:    |
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jul 15, 2012 21:41:38 GMT
Marshall Cavendish eh? Did it include a 'build your own football stadium' with a free bit every single week - over 825,000 editions - first edition with a binder costs only 99p (£6.99 weekly thereafter) with a free working turnstile on the cover to get you started? Port Vale were the only club to get past edition 500 (then their Chairman went down to the newsagents and cancelled) - hence why the "Wembley of the North" is still unfinished decades later (although it doesn't explain why so many of their fans are such knobs).
Blimey - a 30,000+ at Saltergate - almost unbelievable, until you consider that 21,000 crammed into Plainmoor for the Huddersfield and Spurs games. Talking of which - I believe those were the two best attended games in Plainmoor's illustrious history, but does anyone know the top five?
Was a 'Match' boy myself - essential reading for a young Gulls fan for the line-ups and I believe the general shots on goal stats etc as well as what I imagine to be fairly arbitrary match ratings out of 10 for each player. I also recall "The Onion Bag" back in the mid 90's as being amusing, not sure how long it was in print for though.
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Post by stefano on Jul 16, 2012 4:31:58 GMT
Blimey - a 30,000+ at Saltergate - almost unbelievable, until you consider that 21,000 crammed into Plainmoor for the Huddersfield and Spurs games. Talking of which - I believe those were the two best attended games in Plainmoor's illustrious history, but does anyone know the top five?1. 21/01/55 Huddersfield Town FA Cup 21908 2. 06/10/71 Tottenham Hotspur FL Cup 20100 3. 09/01/65 Tottenham Hotspur FA Cup 20000 4. 07/01/56 Birmingham City FA Cup 18730 5. 07/10/50 Plymouth Argyle Div 3(S) 16454 6. 08/12/56 Plymouth Argyle FA Cup 15830 7. 05/02/69 Plymouth Argyle Div 3 15660 8. 15/03/57 Plymouth Argyle Div 3(S) 14683 9. 19/04/57 Southampton Div 3(S) 14223 10 08/04/67 Bristol Rovers Div 3 14171 11 30/03/64 Exeter City Div 4 13863 12 19/10/49 Notts County Div 3(S) 13824 13 01/09/48 Exeter City Div 3(S) 13676 14 26/12/67 Swindon Town Div 3 13072 |
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jul 16, 2012 6:19:37 GMT
Thanks Stefano - very interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 6:42:30 GMT
As usual, marvellous stuff from Barton Downs there. Sadly, Phil Tingay, nice guy that he is, didn't quite manage to emulate Banks and Stevenson. A couple of those club records have fallen since The Book of Football came out: Ernie Moss overtook his friend Randall as all time top goalscorer and the team managed to pull off a new record defeat when losing 10-0 to Gillingham in 1987. The club's home and away strips were surely inspired by the Subbuteo club edition. I was there with my dad at that match against Darlington, by the way. It was, if memory serves, on Boxing Day and a great performance by the Darlo goalkeeper kept the score down to 2-0. The 30,000 crowd at Saltergate was before my time but I think my dad would have been there. As OTBAP rightly says, that attendance is hard to imagine. We played Barnsley in the Cup in 1968 in front of 17,000 and the ground was rammed to the rafters so they must have sitting on the stand roof and on each other's shoulders the day 30,000 were packed into the place. Remember the TV advert for Match magazine? Ossie Ardiles and Ricky Villa reading it on the back seat of the coach? Match was for the giddy young fan while FWT was aimed at we more mature types, what? |
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Post by stuartB on Jul 16, 2012 21:34:09 GMT
I was brought up on "Shoot" and loved it. I couldn't wait to get my hands on the "league tables" they issued and updated it weekly. every club had their own tab and got positioned in the relevant position in the relevant league. took ages to do and and has been replaced by computers now  |
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Post by Rags on Jul 18, 2012 9:04:46 GMT
I was brought up on "Shoot" and loved it. I couldn't wait to get my hands on the "league tables" they issued and updated it weekly. every club had their own tab and got positioned in the relevant position in the relevant league.
took ages to do and and has been replaced by computers now Moi aussi! About 5 years ago I spotted that Match magazine were doing the same and decided to recreate my childhood (to the disgust of Mrs Rags). Sadly the quality of cardboard was not as high as in the 70's with Shoot!, and far too many of the team tabs had disintegrated by Easter. Never look back... |
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