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Post by aussie on Sept 18, 2011 14:28:23 GMT
You might look at it as 1 win in five at home but look who we`ve played, their nearly all in the top ten teams, I dare say that if they had have been lower teams then the points conversion ratio might be a bit higher. Perhaps if we were playing the likes of Hereford or Argyle instead of Rotherham or Cheltenham things might be different! A little bit of perspective gives it a whole different look.
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 18, 2011 14:42:06 GMT
Rotherham fans were not too impressed with Howe. Here is one quote: "Cresswell got ripped inside out by an overweight sumo wrestler with the turning circle of the QE2." Several other comments in a similar vein but like it or not he was one of the better players on the pitch!  Howe is pure class and I can't wait 'till he's 100% fit! |
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 18, 2011 14:43:08 GMT
I thought it was a sublime 30 yard precision pass myself. Good to see him swing his foot, miss the ball, fall on his arse and Dopey the lino blew for a foul. You could well be right as I was sitting in the family stand and your perspective would have been better than mine!  However, my recollection was he cleared a cross from the edge of the area using the outside of the foot and wasn't even looking up the field but then I was a long way away!  He was using the force! |
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 18, 2011 14:46:14 GMT
You might look at it as 1 win in five at home .....that's because it is |
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Post by aussie on Sept 18, 2011 14:58:32 GMT
You might look at it as 1 win in five at home .....that's because it is Makes more sense if you read all of the sentence!  |
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Post by Father Jack on Sept 18, 2011 15:38:46 GMT
.....that's because it is Makes more sense if you read all of the sentence! It makes no difference if you read all of the sentence or not. New supporters are not going to start following a team if they dont see wins on the board. They dont care (or probably even know) that the opposition are in the top 10, they just see 1 win out of 5. |
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Post by aussie on Sept 18, 2011 16:04:50 GMT
Makes more sense if you read all of the sentence! It makes no difference if you read all of the sentence or not. New supporters are not going to start following a team if they dont see wins on the board. They dont care (or probably even know) that the opposition are in the top 10, they just see 1 win out of 5. What? I was responding to Chelston`s little quip. My point about only winning one in five was about fixtures, perhaps if we had a chat with the F.A. we could make sure that we play all the weaker teams first so as to not put off any potential fans that might come to watch! I see your point but also think that if these so called new fans had a clue about football then they might realise that we aren`t doing too badly and the wins at home will start to mount up when we start to play weaker sides thus be encouraged to follow us anyway. Saying that though if they only come when we`re winning sort of makes them glory hunters and wouldn`t bother if we hit a bad patch, what we need is more die hard fans to turn up all the time. |
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Post by lambethgull on Sept 18, 2011 17:27:21 GMT
A win or two more might have added a few more onto the gate, but would it have done any more than that? I'm not convinced.
Northampton haven't won at home this season, yet they have slightly higher gates than they averaged last season. Barnet and Aldershot have one just once at home, yet their gates are higher than they averaged last season. Significantly, two of those clubs are struggling, so what's going on there then?
Are our fans more demanding than others? Are our fans more fickle than most? Or are other reasons such as different season ticket prices, the economic situation in the local area and the fact that we have played any teams who have brought a large away following bigger factors for our 'dwindling' crowds?
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Post by petef on Sept 18, 2011 18:15:45 GMT
Rotherham fans were not too impressed with Howe. Here is one quote: "Cresswell got ripped inside out by an overweight sumo wrestler with the turning circle of the QE2." Several other comments in a similar vein but like it or not he was one of the better players on the pitch! Howe is pure class and I can't wait 'till he's 100% fit! Didnt mention Howe in my early report but he was indeed class yesterday. So strong on the ball and he manages to nick it or keep it without falling foul of the ref. He's definitely lost a bit of his spare tyre, down to a 185-60 from 225-70 his shirt looked positively baggy yesterday. Lings best acquisition without doubt and he will get a few goals along with many assists this term.  |
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 18, 2011 18:24:17 GMT
I must confess to not thinking that Saah is cutting the mustard as they say in League Two. A shakey start (IMO) yesterday confirmed My thoughts but he certainly had a far better second half winning most of the balls aimed his way.
I do think however, that we are still a couple of players short of a promotion chasing squad.
Is £17 too high for a League 2 game, I don't think so. I spoke to a 'very floating' TUFC supporter today who thought it was, quoting a figure of £225 for a Blackburn Rovers season ticket - £225 is that right?
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Post by jj on Sept 18, 2011 18:28:48 GMT
ML having the "nonce" to get Renee Howe to the Club will pay-off if he stays fit he's quality & I like a big guy up front who can hold the ball up lay it off and get a goal or two, defenders hate that sort of forward.  |
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 18, 2011 18:36:40 GMT
View from the crowd - Barton, Chris H, Stub, JamesB, Jabba The Hut and Rich and young ladies.  |
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Post by aussie on Sept 19, 2011 5:35:05 GMT
ML having the "nonce" to get Renee Howe to the Club will pay-off if he stays fit he's quality & I like a big guy up front who can hold the ball up lay it off and get a goal or two, defenders hate that sort of forward. I don`t think `nonce` is the right word mate, nouce possibly but deffo not nonce! I always thought a nonce was a pervert of sorts! |
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Sept 19, 2011 8:50:56 GMT
A win or two more might have added a few more onto the gate, but would it have done any more than that? I'm not convinced. Northampton haven't won at home this season, yet they have slightly higher gates than they averaged last season. Barnet and Aldershot have one just once at home, yet their gates are higher than they averaged last season. Significantly, two of those clubs are struggling, so what's going on there then? Are our fans more demanding than others? Are our fans more fickle than most? Or are other reasons such as different season ticket prices, the economic situation in the local area and the fact that we have played any teams who have brought a large away following bigger factors for our 'dwindling' crowds? The only comparison with "away followings" are Maccy and Cheltenham (the other home games so far were rearranged cancellations last season). Both were played on the same day and both attendances were down on last season. Im sure the economic reality has a major effect but DTG was right (cant believe i said that!). It starts with the product on the pitch and you're not going to attract new supporters that will attend regularly without it. |
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Post by lambethgull on Sept 19, 2011 20:22:57 GMT
A win or two more might have added a few more onto the gate, but would it have done any more than that? I'm not convinced.
Northampton haven't won at home this season, yet they have slightly higher gates than they averaged last season. Barnet and Aldershot have one just once at home, yet their gates are higher than they averaged last season. Significantly, two of those clubs are struggling, so what's going on there then?
Are our fans more demanding than others? Are our fans more fickle than most? Or are other reasons such as different season ticket prices, the economic situation in the local area and the fact that we have played any teams who have brought a large away following bigger factors for our 'dwindling' crowds? The only comparison with "away followings" are Maccy and Cheltenham (the other home games so far were rearranged cancellations last season). Both were played on the same day and both attendances were down on last season. Im sure the economic reality has a major effect but DTG was right (cant believe i said that!). It starts with the product on the pitch and you're not going to attract new supporters that will attend regularly without it. Don't disagree with that as a general rule, but if we're going to say that crowds are down because we've only won once at home, we're going to have to explain why clubs with worse home records than us so far are getting bigger crowds than they were last season. Our average after 5 games last season was 2,766. This season it's 2,491. Our home form isn't significantly worse four games in this season than it was four games in last season, so why the drop? I'd suggest that Northampton and Bradford both brought bigger away followings than the teams we've faced so far, which accounts for some of the drop. I'd also imagine the situation with the ground has put a few off too. Combine these reasons with the economic situation in the area and I think you have the beginning of an explanation. |
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