Post by Dave on Apr 28, 2012 14:26:56 GMT
As you may know I always listen to Radio Two during the day as I drive around the Southwest Of England doing my daily work for Toolfix. I do have the radio set up to give me traffic reports and sometimes they either get switched on a bit too early or late. The result of this is you may not just get the traffic reports and often get the beginning or end of some news report.
That is what happened on Friday and I found myself changing the channel to BBC Radio Devon to follow what was the main big story of the day. Now being sleepy old Devon the big story was not some big gang land shooting or someone young person being stabbed to death, but it was a story that seemed to anger a good number of people here in the Southwest.
We had some time ago here on the TFF had a thread running with the title “Social Cleansing” it was all about the fact the government were putting a cap of £21.000 on housing benefit for those not working. Without finding the thread and rereading it again, I’m not sure if I gave my views on it and all I would say now is I agree with the government when they say it’s not right if someone who is working can’t live in a street because they can’t afford too and someone who is can at the expense of the taxpayer.
The plain facts are those in work who can no longer afford to live in the house they do, look to down size and move to a home they can afford to run and in my opinion its not right that the same is no expected for those not in work and having everything paid for them.
On a slightly different note (and I will come to the story that this thread is about shortly) there was a debate on the J. Vine show yesterday about council workers maybe having to go to the homes of those who do not work and stay in bed until lunchtime and fail to get their children up for school etc, to wake them up early (say 7am). Not too sure that would ever work and do wonder if it’s the right way to go, but there does need to be major changes in the benefits system to make it no longer the case people are better off not working at all and living off the backs of those that do.
Now I know there are many good reasons why some people can’t work and they do need help and support, but there are so many who know how to work the system and do all they can to stay on benefits and can cream in more money than most of us can earn. Yes some may say can you blame them if the system is such that is how it works out, all I can say to that is that just proves the system needs to be changed to get them off benefits and make it fair for those who do an honest days work and pay into this country.
It was not surprising to hear employers talk about people coming from the job centre for interviews, who all they could to talk the employer out of giving them the job. It’s so often a case they apply for the jobs as a failure to do so would see their benefits taken away and the truth is they have no intension of even trying to get the job. Its no wonder really that in today’s Britain, so many employers are more than happy to employ those that come here from other countries as they do at least want to work and more than often work far harder than us British people.
There is real evidence of London Councils now looking to do some social cleansing of their own and only last week Newham Council were looking to try and move 500 at least to Stoke some 160 miles away.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134329/IDS-blasts-social-cleansing-cuts--London-council-tries-rehouse-tenants-Stoke.html
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/apr/24/london-borough-benefit-claimants-outside-capital?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
What I do find a bit of a joke is that my friend has worked all his life and for the last 18 years run his own business where he employed 5 people. Sadly things took a turn for the worst and he took out a loan on the house that had been bought and paid for to try and keep the business going and people in work. It did not work and he has had to go bankrupt and is about to lose his home to cover all the debts. He has been told he can’t be rehoused and will only get £65 a week towards any private place he may find to live in. Just how can some who have never worked get such large payouts and those who have worked all their life get sweet nothing?
Anyway back to the story, it was claimed that Westminster Council are offering the homeless £1000 to move out of the area as they want the streets clear of the homeless for the Olympics. One such man has claimed he was found accommodation in Torquay and while he finds Devon and OK place, has said its not home to him. The thing is now its Torbay Council that has to pay for his accommodation here and things are just as bad here as far as the shortage of accommodation goes for the people already living here.
Is it now going to be the case that other councils in London are going to move out all the people they do not want to live there? Why should London’s problems become the problem of other councils who have their own problems to deal with as far as homeless people are concerned.
What happens if every single council in the country start offering the homeless a £1000 to move away and become someone else’s problem? It’s sad that people end up on the streets, it should not be happening in this country in this day and age and as far as I’m concerned we really do need to start helping the people who do live here and stop all those coming in who seemingly seem to get every benefit going.
London they are your homeless, help them and try and find ways to get them off the streets and back into main street life. Do not send to become other councils problems as that is not the answer or solution for them
That is what happened on Friday and I found myself changing the channel to BBC Radio Devon to follow what was the main big story of the day. Now being sleepy old Devon the big story was not some big gang land shooting or someone young person being stabbed to death, but it was a story that seemed to anger a good number of people here in the Southwest.
We had some time ago here on the TFF had a thread running with the title “Social Cleansing” it was all about the fact the government were putting a cap of £21.000 on housing benefit for those not working. Without finding the thread and rereading it again, I’m not sure if I gave my views on it and all I would say now is I agree with the government when they say it’s not right if someone who is working can’t live in a street because they can’t afford too and someone who is can at the expense of the taxpayer.
The plain facts are those in work who can no longer afford to live in the house they do, look to down size and move to a home they can afford to run and in my opinion its not right that the same is no expected for those not in work and having everything paid for them.
On a slightly different note (and I will come to the story that this thread is about shortly) there was a debate on the J. Vine show yesterday about council workers maybe having to go to the homes of those who do not work and stay in bed until lunchtime and fail to get their children up for school etc, to wake them up early (say 7am). Not too sure that would ever work and do wonder if it’s the right way to go, but there does need to be major changes in the benefits system to make it no longer the case people are better off not working at all and living off the backs of those that do.
Now I know there are many good reasons why some people can’t work and they do need help and support, but there are so many who know how to work the system and do all they can to stay on benefits and can cream in more money than most of us can earn. Yes some may say can you blame them if the system is such that is how it works out, all I can say to that is that just proves the system needs to be changed to get them off benefits and make it fair for those who do an honest days work and pay into this country.
It was not surprising to hear employers talk about people coming from the job centre for interviews, who all they could to talk the employer out of giving them the job. It’s so often a case they apply for the jobs as a failure to do so would see their benefits taken away and the truth is they have no intension of even trying to get the job. Its no wonder really that in today’s Britain, so many employers are more than happy to employ those that come here from other countries as they do at least want to work and more than often work far harder than us British people.
There is real evidence of London Councils now looking to do some social cleansing of their own and only last week Newham Council were looking to try and move 500 at least to Stoke some 160 miles away.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134329/IDS-blasts-social-cleansing-cuts--London-council-tries-rehouse-tenants-Stoke.html
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/apr/24/london-borough-benefit-claimants-outside-capital?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
What I do find a bit of a joke is that my friend has worked all his life and for the last 18 years run his own business where he employed 5 people. Sadly things took a turn for the worst and he took out a loan on the house that had been bought and paid for to try and keep the business going and people in work. It did not work and he has had to go bankrupt and is about to lose his home to cover all the debts. He has been told he can’t be rehoused and will only get £65 a week towards any private place he may find to live in. Just how can some who have never worked get such large payouts and those who have worked all their life get sweet nothing?
Anyway back to the story, it was claimed that Westminster Council are offering the homeless £1000 to move out of the area as they want the streets clear of the homeless for the Olympics. One such man has claimed he was found accommodation in Torquay and while he finds Devon and OK place, has said its not home to him. The thing is now its Torbay Council that has to pay for his accommodation here and things are just as bad here as far as the shortage of accommodation goes for the people already living here.
Is it now going to be the case that other councils in London are going to move out all the people they do not want to live there? Why should London’s problems become the problem of other councils who have their own problems to deal with as far as homeless people are concerned.
What happens if every single council in the country start offering the homeless a £1000 to move away and become someone else’s problem? It’s sad that people end up on the streets, it should not be happening in this country in this day and age and as far as I’m concerned we really do need to start helping the people who do live here and stop all those coming in who seemingly seem to get every benefit going.
London they are your homeless, help them and try and find ways to get them off the streets and back into main street life. Do not send to become other councils problems as that is not the answer or solution for them
