tufc01
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Post by tufc01 on Mar 26, 2011 9:52:17 GMT
Cheers for that Enzo. It did puzzle me why we bought on the two subs so late. If you analyze the last games or so when we have conceded late goals its cost us a fair few points. Now I'm not saying we have a divine right to win all our games but... Cheltenham 2 - 2 (Away) 2 nil up with 11 minutes to go 2 points droppedMacclesfield 3 - 3 (Away) 2 goals conceded from corners (SET PIECES) 2 points droppedChelteham 2 - 1 (Home) Goal conceded in the 89 minute from a free kick (SET PIECE) Northampton 2 - 2 (Away) 2 goals conceded from free kicks (SET PIECES) with last coming in the 90 + 6 (Is that the latest we have ever let a goal in?) 2 Points droppedThis would put us on 65 points in second place 5 points clear although Bury and Wycombe have two games in hand. Before the Macclesfield game I found this in the racing post. He follows up with an interesting, and suprising statistic "Torquay have sloppily chucked away great starts this season, dropping 25 points from winning positions".. I guess we can make that 27 points now which would put us top. However, it is unrealistic because it doesn’t take into account situations where we score late as we did against Macclesfield and we did score late last night.
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Post by alunmeerkat on Mar 26, 2011 10:10:59 GMT
In a game where we could enter the automatic promotion places we left at 1300 hrs. It beggars belief really. Apparently we had the team running across a motorway imtersection with their kit to catch the Cheltenham team bus. It also seems faily astonishing that half our players were not on the bus in any case. I know we have a few loanees but for christ sake this sounds like a complete and utter shambles again. It could only be Torquay couldn't it.
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Post by hullgull on Mar 26, 2011 10:11:37 GMT
just listen to the whingbags on here,make your minds up,some of you have been praising bucks for his half time chats,and we have done well in 2nd half on the whole,now your criticsing his tactics,what a 2 faced lot,granted nobodys more pissed off than i am,but on the whole a draw was a fair result,its easy to blame the ref or bucks,the players knew how long was left last night,with or without the subs made,we didnt lose the game,and by god we are still in the mix,and see no reason why we cannot stay there,so come on guys stop whinging,we are having a great season,whether you agree or not....simon
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Post by geddingtongull on Mar 26, 2011 10:24:53 GMT
Haven't commented on here for a long time, but have been following events as a guest.
I was going to post on my return from last nights match as only live 25 miles away so was home by 11.15. However I was feeling pretty angry about the whole evening as so thought inappropriate to comment.
This morning I feel more relaxed, but still not very happy about the evenings result.
I hate going to sixfields as never seem to enjoy the ground and also have never seen us win there, the 1-0 victory during our promotion year I was on holiday and so missed it.
Have a great dislike for northampton and its club. As a previous poster put it they have a sort of arrogance about them. Let's face it any club that has to play on a Friday night because 5 times as many supporters want to watch 30 people chasing a funny shaped ball on the Saturday speaks volumes.
Anyway to the evenings events. It beggars belief that the team left at the time being quoted to travel up the M5 on a Friday!!!! When we come down for home games we leave at a very early time as the motorways are a nightmare.
So considering the players had a nighmare of a journey, had to play on Tuesday night whereas northampton hadn't played since Saturday the worse could have been expected.
A great start with a superb strike from O'Kane. But his was not the team I watched demolish Shrewsbury a couple of weeks ago.
The equaliser had looked on the cards as northampton gained in confidence and there number 21 some spanish guy was looking a danger.
The free kick leading to their equalizer was rather soft. Their players spent a great deal of time falling over at the slightest touch and a better referee would have yellow carded one of them and put a stop to it. The free kick was quite rightly retaken as the referee was have a word about pushing and shoving in the area, but did nothing about it. A poor goal to concede.
The rest of the half we hanging on as northampton were on the ascendancy. All relieved to hear the half time whistle.
We were better in the second half and created several chances which on another day would have gone in.
At ninety minutes I would have taken the draw. Enter Billy Kee with a top class finish which would have been shown time and again on Match of the Day. Couldn't believe that we were going to gain three points from an ordinairy performance. This is the kind of luck that brings promotion!!!!
From the kick off we were following the play waiting for the final whistle when the linesman is seen waving his flag like some child in the classroom waves his hand when desperate for the toilet, any teachers ao here will know what I mean.
Free kick for a reason we could not see. Rebound and an equaliser!! Totally deflated and angry. Mr Buckle was an angry man after the final whistle and confronted the officials after the game as did several players.
I left the ground feeling robbed of two points rather than being contented with one.
I know it is easy to blame officials but these ones had a bad night.
Hopefully will be down for the LIncoln game, 500 mile round trip in a day. We will leave early to avoid the traffic. Hopefully whoever organises the Torquay away travel will learn from this.
I don't like commenting on individual performances too much, but I thought Zebs ran his socks off tonight and Bevan made a couple of game saving stops but I wish he could kick better than he does. Plenty of effort all round but a few having an off day.
Still at least we are at the right end of the table and not worrying about relegation.
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Post by aussie on Mar 26, 2011 11:00:34 GMT
Glorious opportunity tonight to push for a promotion spot. As aussie mentioned earlier though, if we were playing a top team I would feel more confident than playing Northampton who aren't that far off the bottom! A point wouldn't be a total disaster after last Tuesdays result, but three would be oh so much better! I hate games against teams like that!
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Post by chelstongull on Mar 26, 2011 11:22:11 GMT
I wouldn't call it whinging but for me there are two important issues:
1. Coachgate - leaving so late for an important match was a big big mistake taking into consideration the other motorways and A roads that would have have been used to get to Northampton. What burk allowed the driver (I understand his name was Fred Karno) to use his alloted hours getting lost?
2. Why oh why can't we defend late corners, free kicks etc. The odd one I can understand but we are in the middle of an epidemic of biblical proportions.
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Post by hullgull on Mar 26, 2011 11:29:19 GMT
yeah 2 valid poins chelston,buts its not just last night result,and toally agree bout the epidemic we seem to have incurred,but my point is alot of posters on here are so negative bout alot of issues,dont get me wrong chelston i whinge to,and was devastated last night,but at least we came away with something,and we will be in the shakeup at the end of the season,i have no doubt about that....simon
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Post by Budleigh on Mar 26, 2011 11:40:34 GMT
As I've said before, the game starts when the ref blows his whistle for kick-off and finishes when he blows for time. The score is made up of the amount of goals put away in that time. When they are scored is irrelevant.
Last night, in the time allotted, Torquay scored two and Northampton scored two. A 2-2 draw.
A good result when you consider that, although they are near the bottom of the table, their home record isn't too bad, being on a par with Bury in second place and not far off are own and Wycombe's.
A good point gained...
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Post by stefano on Mar 26, 2011 12:00:43 GMT
Yet another excellent away point in what is a brilliant season being well in the running for an automatic promotion spot after also reaching the 4th round of the FA Cup.
I am quite hopeful that our point last night will mean we do not lose too much ground if any at all.
The two teams above us Bury and Wycombe and the three teams below us who could overtake us this weekend (Stevenage, Shrewsbury, and Gillingham) all have tough away fixtures.
Macclesfield v Stevenage Morecambe v Wycombe Port Vale v Bury Bradford v Shrewsbury Cheltenham v Gillingham
At this stage of the season league position counts for nothing as table topping Rochdale discovered when they came to us last season and left with a 5-0 thumping.
A combination of lower placed teams battling for every point and the promotion challengers suffering from final furlong nerves ensures that the end of season always throws up some unpredictable results.
Defeats for Bury and Wycombe would leave us two points behind them so a point better off than at the start of the weekend games, and defeats or draws for Stevenage, Shrewsbury, and Gillingham would keep them below us in the table.
Roll on Lincoln and another three points! ;D
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Post by loyalgull on Mar 26, 2011 12:26:50 GMT
well the morning after the night before,in hindsight i find it miraculous that we even gained a point after the days unexpected events,frustrating even more when we should of won.Total respect to cheltenham fc for their generous help,without that we would of incurred the anger of the football league again,who was the brainless idiot who suggested a 1pm departure? a very important game needed far better preparation than this for gods sake
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Post by paulr on Mar 26, 2011 16:04:45 GMT
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Mar 26, 2011 16:08:43 GMT
Whilst I'm disappointed for the 370 that made it to the match last night I would definitely have taken a point at around 7pm when it became apparent that there had been such disruption to our pre-match build-up. I was hoping that Branston would get through without picking-up his tenth booking - I suppose that it is just something that comes with his no-nonsense approach.
It's been a demanding couple of weeks - three away games in eleven days. The players have three days off and then seven games to finish the season and everything is very much in their hands. I hope that last night has a galvanising effect on the players rather than damage their spirit and confidence - I think that will be apparent one way or another against Lincoln.
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Post by chelstongull on Mar 26, 2011 16:54:53 GMT
Why couldn't we have played the game on Sunday?
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Post by hullgull on Mar 26, 2011 17:01:34 GMT
rugby maybe at franklin gardens chelston maybe policing
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Post by aussie on Mar 27, 2011 10:35:31 GMT
I was hoping that Branston would get through without picking-up his tenth booking - I suppose that it is just something that comes with his no-nonsense approach. He didn`t, he picked up his nineth booking, Zebs was on nine and would have picked up his tenth had he been booked. They only have to get through the next game on April 2nd to avoid suspension provided they don`t get a yellow then everything will be fine!
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