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Post by merse on Aug 15, 2010 11:41:48 GMT
I would have thought that disallowing spectacular goals would be frowned upon, in the same way as dishing out soft penalties for marginal fouls inside the box, by the men in grey suits. As for stupid head wear Merse and looking a pratt, Tuesday linno takes the biscuit. I think the application of Law 18 (use common sense at all times) is the nub of the argument here and I also agree that to deny spectacular application of skill on the pitch is to adopt a bit of a jobsworth attitude. Talking of unorthodox kit, many years ago when I was at Plainmoor we had a bittelry cold night for a game with Port Vale and the referee (Les Burdon) pursuaded both his linesmen to wear black tracksuit bottoms and black gloves..................and why not? Gloves were hardly ever seen in the game at that time whereas now they're two a penny and my personal disdain for them have turned to the fact that they are one of the essentials I always make sure my son has in his kit bag before a game or training. Surely linesmen should pack a black baseball cap in their kit bags for such occasions as the other night ~ after all, far better to look unorthodox than miss a vital incident through being unsighted; but I agree wearing a white one was ridiculous. I think what has to be stamped down on now though is the modern day proliferation of ankle protection being worn OVER the socks rather than underneath. Nothing wrong with that, but I do seriously suggest they should be the same colour as the stockings ~ sock colours and their contrasts are such an aid to match officials in deciding marginal calls for certain balls out of play, that they shouldn't be compromised in this way.
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Post by chrish on Aug 15, 2010 13:31:06 GMT
.............and wasn't it a Reading player who kicked his head in? Stephen Hunt and Andre Bikey wasn't it? I think Hunt delivered the Coup de Grace though.
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Post by aussie on Aug 15, 2010 13:33:00 GMT
.............and wasn't it a Reading player who kicked his head in? Stephen Hunt and Andre Bikey wasn't it? I think Hunt delivered the Coup de Grace though. A head Hunter `eh?
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Post by merse on Aug 15, 2010 17:42:18 GMT
It does sound as if it was designed to give way rather than be the cause of any crush injuries. I always understood that was exactly the case, hence why it is only "single skinned" (I think that is the term in the building game) and also the very reason they put "yellow boxes" immediately before them so that the metal crush barriers do exactly as it says on the skin and take the crush. What the licensing authorities must ask of the stadium manager now is, what the hell were so many people being allowed to do so that they got into a position to cause that amount of damage? If I had been a player put in danger of injury by those idiots who did that, or a press photographer; I would be consulting my lawyer. Such incidents are just another nail in the life of standing areas in licensed grounds if you ask me, and the very reason that grants are only available to develope seated areas.
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Post by keyberrygull on Aug 15, 2010 20:14:12 GMT
It does sound as if it was designed to give way rather than be the cause of any crush injuries. I always understood that was exactly the case, hence why it is only "single skinned" (I think that is the term in the building game) and also the very reason they put "yellow boxes" immediately before them so that the metal crush barriers do exactly as it says on the skin and take the crush. What the licensing authorities must ask of the stadium manager now is, what the hell were so many people being allowed to do so that they got into a position to cause that amount of damage? If I had been a player put in danger of injury by those idiots who did that, or a press photographer; I would be consulting my lawyer. Such incidents are just another nail in the life of standing areas in licensed grounds if you ask me, and the very reason that grants are only available to develope seated areas. Mr Baker said he understood that the wall, which was just over a metre tall, was designed to collapse under pressurewww.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Inquiry-begins-Plainmoor-wall-fallsFA-council-probe-accident-Gulls-crunch-match/article-2522183-detail/article.html When a standing area is filled to capacity, are they not kept clear to allows access in cases of emergency and give supporters the room to celebrate without injuring themselves.
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Post by tufc01 on Aug 16, 2010 10:46:34 GMT
It does sound as if it was designed to give way rather than be the cause of any crush injuries. I always understood that was exactly the case, hence why it is only "single skinned" (I think that is the term in the building game) and also the very reason they put "yellow boxes" immediately before them so that the metal crush barriers do exactly as it says on the skin and take the crush. What the licensing authorities must ask of the stadium manager now is, what the hell were so many people being allowed to do so that they got into a position to cause that amount of damage? If I had been a [glow=yellow,2,300] player put in danger of injury [/glow]by those idiots who did that, or a press photographer; I would be consulting my lawyer. Such incidents are just another nail in the life of standing areas in licensed grounds if you ask me, and the very reason that grants are only available to develope seated areas. As far as I could see a large portion of the blame should lie squarely on the shoulders of the Reading player who ran to the hug the supporters in that area. This caused a massive surge as they all pushed forward to try and join in and grab him. Whilst I appreciate that the actions of the idiots who all tried to get in there and jump on top of him were stupid and dangerous, if the player had not gone to them in the first place the surge would not have happened and the wall would not have been demolished. The players also have to take a bit more responsibility for their actions. I know it must be very difficult not to run to the fans when a goal is scored, especially so late in a game, but they must know that when they run to the fans there is going to be a surge towards them as everyone tries to join in on the celebrations. They were very lucky that nobody was seriously injured.
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Post by merse on Aug 16, 2010 11:10:41 GMT
I take it the player was subsequently booked for his actions....................he was wasn't he? Nothing makes me more angry at the present state of match "commentary" when players received cautions for clear breaches of the laws of the game ( and this one is clearly "a danger to himself/ others" ) yet the commentator derides the match official. As I always say, if you want to shoot the message down, don't shoot the messenger! People have to realise too, that such incidents only make the liklihood of standing areas returning to all seater stadiums even more remote and the acceleration of current standing areas to seated ones all the more likely. Before you shoot "this messenger", I am not advocating "all seater" merely pointing out why such a status has come about. Like the roads, it's not the actual roads that kill people; it's the bloody idiots using them!
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Post by lambethgull on Aug 16, 2010 11:41:21 GMT
It does sound as if it was designed to give way rather than be the cause of any crush injuries. I always understood that was exactly the case, hence why it is only "single skinned" (I think that is the term in the building game) and also the very reason they put "yellow boxes" immediately before them so that the metal crush barriers do exactly as it says on the skin and take the crush. What the licensing authorities must ask of the stadium manager now is, what the hell were so many people being allowed to do so that they got into a position to cause that amount of damage? I imagine most away supporters are too busy moaning about 'the health and safety' to do as requested by the stewards
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Post by videoman on Dec 18, 2010 15:17:33 GMT
My 4 and a half year stint as Torquay Utd. Videographer ended in October 2010 as the recession bit. I see from the club website that no DVDs are advertised, but I have all the back numbers and the copyright of all the games especially the Compilations especially the 5 Disc Record of all the games for the 2 year Conference campaign. Edit done as image was not showing as not put on forum correctlyDave
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Post by Dave on Dec 19, 2010 0:47:21 GMT
My 4 and a half year stint as Torquay Utd. Videographer ended in October 2010 as the recession bit. I see from the club website that no DVDs are advertised, but I have all the back numbers and the copyright of all the games especially the Compilations especially the 5 Disc Record of all the games for the 2 year Conference campaign. So sorry to hear your sad news, you have done a fine job and provided a great service for TUFC fans over the last four and a half years. I hope things work out better for you soon. Dave
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