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Post by Dave on Oct 27, 2008 15:47:25 GMT
Crispy your fantasy, I believe will just be that, you were correct about the benefits Of rescuing Newton Abbot Or even taking them over would be, but I feel at this time, It Is not going to happen.
Do you think with the main sponsor Of our youth set up, giving up the sponsorship, that the club would want to find what may well end up, as over 30 grand. Because someone would have to clear those debts.
I would think the club as more important Issues to deal with, mainly trying to secure money, just to keep Its own youth set up going and I don't think It really would want to take over such a troubled club, that Newton Abbot now Is.
It Is my view that Newton Abbot Is finished as a club, unless someone with money were to take over and clear the outstanding bills etc, but just what you be getting for the money?
I would think and I don't know this Is the case, that as John Gayle, has said he will now be looking to move his family back up north, that Saturday may have been no more than a farewell.
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Post by crispygull on Oct 27, 2008 16:15:59 GMT
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My line of thought was not so much that TUFC would save Newton Abbot FC as such, as you rightly point out what would be the benefit to TUFC of clearing their debts.
My idea was more along the lines of TUFC becoming the new tenant at Coach Road, renting their pich, complete with floodlit facilities, perhaps for the first team to train on? I don't believe our Youth Team has a proper "home" at the moment, as the club are probably reluctant to use Plainmoor more than they have to, and have recently taken to using Dartmouth's ground to play their matches - perhaps they would play their home games there ?
It is also a question of whether TUFC would be interested in running a reserve team and playing their matches there also - in whatever League they are allowed to play in - perhaps John Gayle could be brought in to run that?
Like I say, just my own ideas - not saying it's going to happen - just putting two and two together (and probably making five!)
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Post by Dave on Oct 27, 2008 16:35:41 GMT
crispy forgive me If I have misunderstood, but this Is what you posted In another post.
It got me thinking as to whether TUFC couldn't forge some sort of "partnership" with them - in order to save their football club?
Surly any sort Of partnership, would require the club having to clear, Or help clear the debts Of Newton Abbot. Now you do make very good sense about the club looking to take over Coach Road as a venue for the Youth team, as you rightly point out, at they do not have a proper home.
I do not know how much It costs to rent Coach Road(maybe Ant does and can tell us) but I still feel the club, would not be In a position to even consider taking over Coach Road, when It can't really be sure, how long It can run the Youth set.
Things could well change If a new sponsor could be found, one that would match the three year deal, that Sean had agreed to, before the recent problems.
Adding two plus two, can make five, but also four, so you fantasy could well come true, but i will stick with mine, that John Gayle was saying goodbye and will leave Devon soon.
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Post by crispygull on Oct 27, 2008 16:45:09 GMT
Yeah, you're right Dave in that my original post was thinking along those lines BUT given the level of debts they appear to have and the fact that it would appear from those in the know on here that we (TUFC) couldn't enter a reserve team into the SW Peninsula League anyway - my views as to why we might get involved have shifted!
As you say, his (John Gayle's) appearance in the Directors box alongside Colin Lee may just have been a gesture of support, a farewell ... we will have to wait and see whether there is anything more to it that that, I guess.
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Post by Dave on Dec 16, 2008 23:05:52 GMT
The South Devon League as extended the deadline for the players of Newton Abbot to pay their fines. As the club has not paid the £250 to the league, it has fallen on the players to do so.
They were due to have it paid by the 13th Dec, but that has now been extended to the 19th Dec. If the players do not pay the £10 required then the matter will go to the Devon F.A. This will then cost another £8 for admin charges, plus what ever action the Devon FA take.
Until the players make their payment they are unable to sign for another team, all sad really that its the players who lose out, due to the way the club was run.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2008 23:14:16 GMT
The thing that astonished me was how, during the whole sorry saga, nobody associated with the club made any contact with Phil Hiscox, the secretary of the SW Peninsula League (and I'm assuming this was the same with the SDL) to explain or apologise. It seems they just walked away once those first fixtures weren't fulfilled. A shame the club's demise should be so shabby and conducted by people only belatedly involved. No news, I gather, on the future of Coach Road?
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Post by Dave on Dec 16, 2008 23:23:43 GMT
As far as I know nothing has changed at Coach Road, its still being used as the Devon FA head quarters and their meetings are still being held there.
Seems Johns Gayles visit to Plainmoor was just what I said it was, a goodbye and nothing more, Spurs will not want to move to coach Rd, Buckland have a good ground, so not really sure what other Newton team would want to, or could afford to, move to coach road.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2008 18:58:04 GMT
I was reminded of how Coach Road is going to waste when I looked in at Ivybridge Town's ground today (as you do on Christmas Eve). There's hardly anything there - a couple of dug-outs, a public right of way (an extension of the Two Moors Way) behind one goal and - as I saw today - plenty of opportunity for "dog exercising" (with little evidence of cleaning up afterwards).
Ivybridge was one of the clubs which were given two years dispensation to bring their grounds up to the required standard for the SW Peninsula Premier Division. Buckland have clearly managed this and it seems Ivybridge are desperately trying to follow suit in winning funding for floodlights and a stand. If they succeed that'll be more evidence of how some smaller clubs are making progress on and off-the-field.
I wonder if, in the event of these develoments not happening as planned, Ivybridge are one of the clubs which have shown interest in Coach Road? I know it sounds daft but there are plenty of illogical ground shares at that level of football and, as a purely temporary bolt hole, it make may sense if it secures their place in the Premier League. Indeed Ivybridge switched their Devon Bowl game, which had to be played under lights, to Coach Road last season.
There's still the thought in my mind of Torquay United playing youth and, in the event of joining a league, reserve games at Coach Road.
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Post by Dave on Dec 24, 2008 19:11:23 GMT
Ivybridge Town's ground is as you say not up to the standard it needs to be, mind you I think they have now got a new net, to get the ball out of the river than runs behind one of the goals. ;D
Its a cold ground, due to it being open to the moors and its a bit of a walk back to the clubhouse. While it would solve many problems for Ivybridge, if it moved to Coach Road, I just think its too far away and they will not even consider it.Nor do I think we will see our club making any moves for Coach Rd and Bucklnad and Spurs have their own homes, it may well have to become a home for some village team, that is close to Newton Abbot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2008 19:40:00 GMT
Yes, I noticed the Erme behind the goal.
I'm not saying there's a serious chance of Ivybridge playing at Coach Road even temporarily but, of course, were it to happen I shall claim credit for it. If there's one group of people it wouldn't affect, it's probably the players. Most likely they come from all over Plymouth and South Devon so, if it's a game and some pocket money, it's merely a few more junctions along the A38.
Coach Road should be an attractive proposition to some club because it's not a ground share. This means they wouldn't have to take account of anyone else's fixtures at first team or reserve level.
Ipplepen? Abbotskerswell? Denbury Athletic? Newton 66?
Channings Wood? (perhaps not!)
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Post by Dave on Dec 24, 2008 19:50:34 GMT
Don't get me started on Channings Wood Barton, I'm still not happy what happened with them before the start of this season. It would all come down to cost for any of the clubs you put in the hat and we know that Newton could not even pay the rent and we are not talking about just a few weeks here.
I can't see much happening now until the end of this season, it will simply not get used, apart from some cup finals being played there, but I fear even that may not happen, it would depend on if the ground is receiving the maintenance it would need.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 21:15:01 GMT
This week's Sunday Independent mentioned the deadline for SW Peninsula clubs to install floodlights has been extended to 31 March 2010. Buckland and Dartmouth have had lights since the start of the season - Torpoint's are being switched on next week - leaving Ivybridge, Newton Abbot Spurs, Witheridge and Elburton with just over a year to get sorted. This suggests Newton Abbot Spurs will be okay to stay at The Rec next season without lights.
Devon Bowl QF draw - no later than 28th February:
Barnstaple Town v Plymouth Parkway / Exeter City
Dawlish Town / Clyst Rovers v Willand Rovers
Elmore / Elburton Villa v Cullompton Rangers / Torquay United
Ivybridge Town / Bideford v Tiverton Town
Any game at Elburton would need to be switched elsewhere because the Bowl is a floodlit competition.
Record crowd for the SW Peninsula League - 737 on Boxing Day for Newquay v Godolphin Atlantic.....Ian Holloway to be the speaker at Saltash United's "Sportsman's Evening" at a hotel in Plymouth (sounds interesting).
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Post by Dave on Jan 1, 2009 21:32:49 GMT
Would be interesting to see what objections Spurs might get, to having lights at the ground. I say that only because now it has a block of flats along one whole side of the pitch, that was once the site of those gas things.
The nearby Osbourne park now has a part that has had floodlights put up, but there was a big petition to try and prevent them being put up. If that was to be a problem for Spurs and Coach Road still was being unused, then Spurs could end up with no other choice, but to move there.
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