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Post by bbcgull on Oct 19, 2008 17:33:54 GMT
tommyg, since my post I have done what I should have done In the first instance and read the report. tufc01 has always in the past been fairly accurate with his posts and as he has deleted his opening post, he must have felt he got the information wrong. It would have been nice if tufc01 had placed an edit instead of deleting. I seem to be the villain now. Again ill make it clear what i mean. I feel with the way we are now that maybe his on off form later in the season may mean he is not gonna fit in. I red the report to now and it would seem that sky misrepresented what happenedin the first place to me so thats why i reacted in the way i did regarding throwing the book at him. |
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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2008 17:37:48 GMT
Thats OK DaveR. I was not having a pop at you, it just got my goat that he was accused of lamping his team mate when that was not the case. And the Wottongate happened a good few years ago. I don't dissagree with your veiws on violence but I still like to see a bit blood and thunder on the field  I know you were not having a go at me and you points were spot on and I needed to correct my own views. Glad you brought up blood and thunder, I will be doing a thread soon about the fact that our game seems to be getting a bit soft, due to some challenges no longer being a part Of the game. |
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Oct 19, 2008 18:32:25 GMT
Definately would have Zebs back tomorrow. I thought that his abilty to come-up with the goals like he did last season was one benefit - but the amount of work he did at all times all over the pitch was phenomenal - tracking back to full-back position so often but still being able to compete for the full 90 minutes after performing that work is very rare.
Although there was the "perceived spell of poor performances" in the second half of the season, I believe that he was a great asset for the whole time he was here.
I hope that he gets the career that I believe he deserves - sadly I suspect it will be in the leagues above us!
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Post by tufc01 on Oct 19, 2008 19:57:38 GMT
I deleted the post (as opposed to editing it ) because the reply regarding violence in general and further responses made it look like i was condoning violence, which was NOT what my original post was meant to do. I didn't intend to get involved in a deep rooted argument about violence and beatings etc, hence why i deleted my original post.
I was just relaying what i had read on the BBC match report for the Wycombe game and what was repeated on Sky Sports News.
Brett, i apologise to you for the flack that you received on the back of my post and echo what you said in one of your later posts. i.e "wish id never bloody commented now, Maybe i should have worded it better"
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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2008 20:07:56 GMT
Thats fair enough tufc01, but was pointless as your post had been quoted, so Is still there for all to see. I fail to see how you thought from your post that anyone would think It looked liked you were condoning violence, I did not read the post that way. The post was fine and sparked healthy debate and that Is what I would hope would happen, so I think deleting It was not necessary, but that Is only my view  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2008 20:21:59 GMT
A lot of interesting views & different stand points raised.
I also found that the differing opinions expressed in the 'Gascoigne' thread in Other Football Talk only added to the subject under discussion.
What a pity that the originators of both threads subsequently regretted starting them. If the users of the Forum feel there's a need to always 'play safe' that would be disappointing & the Forum will be the poorer for it.
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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2008 20:31:35 GMT
alpinejoe I fully agree and If tufc01 had felt his post was not as he had first thought, then a simple edit was all that was required. Debate Is the name Of the game and as you say If we all played It to safe then It would simply be just boring. tufc01, while your first post turned out not to be as It was first reported and that Is where you got the story, It has made for a good thread. PS got any more doggy stories, keep them coming they do the forum only good |
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on Oct 21, 2008 9:45:41 GMT
Can I just add, I've seen the highlights on Sky Sports' Big League Weekend show and it really wasn't that bad.
There was a bit of handbags between a few players and there was scuffling going on. Harrold was holding Zebs back and the ex-Gull caught his teammate on the side of the head. Harrold didn't even react and it was clearly an accident.
Anyway, I hope that's cleared it up ;D
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 15:34:43 GMT
Can I just add, I've seen the highlights on Sky Sports' Big League Weekend show and it really wasn't that bad. There was a bit of handbags between a few players and there was scuffling going on. Harrold was holding Zebs back and the ex-Gull caught his teammate on the side of the head. Harrold didn't even react and it was clearly an accident. Anyway, I hope that's cleared it up ;D Thanks for posting what really happened, that tufc01, he's a case  mind you he can't be blamed, because the report he heard clearly stated that Zeb's was send Off for punching a team mate. Still made a good thread, with some very good debate, so If nothing else I'm smiling  |
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Post by jamie on Oct 21, 2008 19:46:55 GMT
With the risk of going slightly off topic (maybe it has anyway?) Merse's comments beg the question about standards within the game (apologies if I paraphrase you Alan).
Ok, so this thread was about Zebs, but let's just talk more generally about footballers (and managers/ etc) who is some cases have been guilty of some pretty serious crimes, but have been "welcomed" back into football.
Some examples include ;
Joey barton (common assault, affray and ABH)
Graham rix (underage sex and indecent assault on 15 year old girl)
The two examples above went straight back into employment with their clubs and yet if I had been convicted of either I am fairly sure I would not only be sacked but would be removed from the register and thus struck off as a nurse.
Is this double standards? Are the clubs guilty of putting their needs over correct standards? Or should the clubs be congratulated for considering their convictions spent and opting for rehabilitation over retribution?
I will stop now before this ends up sounding like "any other business" on fighting talk.
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Post by weathergull on Oct 22, 2008 8:09:28 GMT
I see a certain Chris Zebroski scored for wycombe last night......maybe, there's a nice and a nasty one!
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Post by bigleigh on Oct 22, 2008 17:15:31 GMT
I see a certain Chris Zebroski scored for wycombe last night......maybe, there's a nice and a nasty one! Zebroski's red card was rescinded on appeal and after seeing the incident rightly so. |
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Post by barnsleygull on Oct 22, 2008 17:41:48 GMT
With the risk of going slightly off topic (maybe it has anyway?) Merse's comments beg the question about standards within the game (apologies if I paraphrase you Alan). Ok, so this thread was about Zebs, but let's just talk more generally about footballers (and managers/ etc) who is some cases have been guilty of some pretty serious crimes, but have been "welcomed" back into football. Some examples include ; Joey barton (common assault, affray and ABH) Graham rix (underage sex and indecent assault on 15 year old girl) The two examples above went straight back into employment with their clubs and yet if I had been convicted of either I am fairly sure [glow=red,2,300]I would not only be sacked but would be removed from the register and thus struck off as a nurse[/glow]. Is this double standards? Are the clubs guilty of putting their needs over correct standards? Or should the clubs be congratulated for considering their convictions spent and opting for rehabilitation over retribution? I will stop now before this ends up sounding like "any other business" on fighting talk. Indeed you would be struck off jamie, (I too am an RGN) and, in the case of rix be placed on the sex offenders register. There is also cantona, woodgate and of course bowyer. |
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Post by pikeygull on Oct 22, 2008 20:39:48 GMT
You could add Lee Hughes and what will become of McCormick.
The thing is if they are good enough with a reputation of Top Flight football some lower league will always take a punt.
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Post by barnsleygull on Oct 22, 2008 23:02:29 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]You could add Lee Hughes and what will become of McCormick.[/glow] The thing is if they are good enough with a reputation of Top Flight football some lower league will always take a punt. Quite right pikeygull - and in the case of these two, drink drivers, the lowest of the low in my book.  |
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