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Post by lambethgull on Oct 30, 2010 9:45:47 GMT
Steve I think Dave meant the balance of the forum has in the past been mainly football orientated but now has swung right around and the football side of things is minimal in comparison to other topics, I feel he may not have made himself quite clear enough on that point! Posts made about football on here recently are rare compared to the Social Cleansing and other political debates going on, personally I find these other topics rather mind numbing after a while and there is very little else to read or respond to that has any relevance to TUFC, I think Dave was trying to say that we are mainly gathered on this site because the general core interest of all of us is surely TUFC. You coming today? Hope to see you there! I'm not being confrontational or argumentative here Aussie, but I don't understand this. How does the presence of politics discussion in the Pop Side section of the forum prevent others from discussing matters relating to TUFC elsewhere on the forum? I'm not being difficult, I genuinely don't understand. |
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Post by Dave on Oct 30, 2010 9:50:04 GMT
Dave, some of the stuff chucked your way recently has been out of order, and has been actually been quite uncomfortable to read. I’m pretty sure I am not alone in feeling that way. I will wait to see what your charter says, but I do hope you don't do anything too drastic. You've always said that threads that go 'off topic' tend to be the most interesting ones, and whilst I can see an argument for keeping politics out of the football sections of the forum, it would be a bit perverse if anything touching on politics was somehow proscribed elsewhere. One of the great things about this forum is the eclectic and varied subjects – from days out, to music, and yes, to politics....it's what makes this forum a unique place, a touch odd at times perhaps, but that's its charm. 'The Pop Side' section of the TFF says "Any subject you like"; it would be a shame to see that changed to "Any subject you like, except....". Due to wanting to reply to stefano as I was not telling him off, I have lost all I have been up since 5am writing and so it won't get posted now until much later on. We are not changing the site in anyway and only want to get it back to how it was. I have put thousands of hours into the TFF and an very saddened to see the state it is now. To do nothing means we keep going down hill and end up with just a few posting on here. Please give me your trust to turn things around again and make this a forum all can join in and post on and not just the most bravest. Dave |
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Post by lambethgull on Oct 30, 2010 9:54:57 GMT
Please give me your trust to turn things around again and make this a forum all can join in and post on and not just the most bravest. Dave Of course Dave. At the end of the day, you're the proprietor and it's your call and right to do as you see fit. |
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Post by aussie on Oct 30, 2010 9:56:14 GMT
Steve I think Dave meant the balance of the forum has in the past been mainly football orientated but now has swung right around and the football side of things is minimal in comparison to other topics, I feel he may not have made himself quite clear enough on that point! Posts made about football on here recently are rare compared to the Social Cleansing and other political debates going on, personally I find these other topics rather mind numbing after a while and there is very little else to read or respond to that has any relevance to TUFC, I think Dave was trying to say that we are mainly gathered on this site because the general core interest of all of us is surely TUFC. You coming today? Hope to see you there! I'm not being confrontational or argumentative here Aussie, but I don't understand this. How does the presence of politics discussion in the Pop Side section of the forum prevent others from discussing matters relating to TUFC elsewhere on the forum? I'm not being difficult, I genuinely don't understand. I don`t believe I actually said that mate, if it came across that way then sorry because it`s not quite what I meant! If you re-read most of this threads page two and put into context what I said then it might make more sense! I`ve never been any good at explaining things through a keyboard! |
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Post by Dave on Oct 30, 2010 10:00:51 GMT
Dave, some of the stuff chucked your way recently has been out of order, and has been actually been quite uncomfortable to read. I’m pretty sure I am not alone in feeling that way. If its been uncomfortable to read how do you feel it has made me feel having it chucked at me when after all I give my time for free so there is a TFF. Yes others have been concerned as well and the reason I was asked if a meeting could be held by those who feel its all been a bit unfair what has been said about me on here. My commitment to the TFF is as strong as ever as I happen to care about it very much, but it becomes a very bad situation where I feel I can't post on the very thing I created for fear of the now constant attacks. Right need to start my writing again. See you all later Dave |
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Post by lambethgull on Oct 30, 2010 10:11:49 GMT
I'm not being confrontational or argumentative here Aussie, but I don't understand this. How does the presence of politics discussion in the Pop Side section of the forum prevent others from discussing matters relating to TUFC elsewhere on the forum? I'm not being difficult, I genuinely don't understand. I don`t believe I actually said that mate, if it came across that way then sorry because it`s not quite what I meant! If you re-read most of this threads page two and put into context what I said then it might make more sense! I`ve never been any good at explaining things through a keyboard! Me neither!! What I mean is this. In the old days of Mervo's site when all the posts were on one screen I could've understood people saying that it was not reasonable for the football or TUFC posts to be lost amongst politics or other discussion topics. However, this is a threaded board with different rooms, so I don't really understand why people feel that because there's a discussion about politics on one part of the site that means they can't say anything about TUFC on the TUFC sections of the site. Maybe you think that some people are devoting too much time discussing politics instead of positing about TUFC (which is, after all, what brings us all here). I disagree with this. I don't think there's anyone who comes on here thinking "I've got this to say about Bucks/the team/the board", but I'd actually rather talk about the Social Cleansing so won't bother posting about it! I think the reason there's not much TUFC discussion atm is because there isn't a massive amount to discuss. The team are doing reasonably well, so few 'Buckle Out!' arguments. We're outside the transfer window, so no real movement there apart from a couple of loans. There are no midweek games, the ground is being developed, the Board seems pretty stable..............what's to argue about?!! |
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Post by Dave on Oct 30, 2010 10:26:55 GMT
lambethgull I was wrong to put the subject of politics in my post as I always felt the good thing about the TFF is we discuss so many other subjects and that is not about to change. But maybe we do need to get a good balance on here so those who just come to read the TFF looking for Torquay United related talk can find something they are looking to read. Just me thinking out loud  |
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Post by stefano on Oct 30, 2010 11:25:54 GMT
Take That - jeez.  Take That have announced that they are playing at Home Park next year. I've got a tenner on them winning 3-1 |
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Post by Rags on Oct 30, 2010 11:26:24 GMT
Due to wanting to reply to stefano as I was not telling him off, I have lost all I have been up since 5am writing and so it won't get posted now until much later on. Dave, I don't understand how this happened. You could have copied what you'd written onto a notepad or a Word document, or opened up TFF again in a new tab or window depending on your browser to reply to Stefano. Or you could have waited until you'd completed the new guidelines before responding to Stefano's concerns. You had a number of options other than losing what you had already written. And this is not intended as criticism. |
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Post by Dave on Oct 30, 2010 11:37:36 GMT
Due to wanting to reply to stefano as I was not telling him off, I have lost all I have been up since 5am writing and so it won't get posted now until much later on. Dave, I don't understand how this happened. You could have copied what you'd written onto a notepad or a Word document, or opened up TFF again in a new tab or window depending on your browser to reply to Stefano. Or you could have waited until you'd completed the new guidelines before responding to Stefano's concerns. You had a number of options other than losing what you had already written. And this is not intended as criticism. I had a word document open and should have saved it as I went along ;)as I'm doing now. I was rather silly due to being up far to early and wanting to get the thing written, I closed the wrong window. I wish in a perfect world there was no need to write the thing in the first place. My intention's as always are very hounorable on here and maybe its best we do lay out the ethos of this forum so everyone can decide if the forum is right for them. Right back to my writing. Dave |
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Post by lambethgull on Oct 30, 2010 11:40:47 GMT
Due to wanting to reply to stefano as I was not telling him off, I have lost all I have been up since 5am writing and so it won't get posted now until much later on. Dave, I don't understand how this happened. You could have copied what you'd written onto a notepad or a Word document, or opened up TFF again in a new tab or window depending on your browser to reply to Stefano. Or you could have waited until you'd completed the new guidelines before responding to Stefano's concerns. You had a number of options other than losing what you had already written. And this is not intended as criticism. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy an argument as much as anyone, but surely you're not trying to have an argument about this?!!!! |
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Post by Rags on Oct 30, 2010 11:46:12 GMT
Dave, I don't understand how this happened. You could have copied what you'd written onto a notepad or a Word document, or opened up TFF again in a new tab or window depending on your browser to reply to Stefano. Or you could have waited until you'd completed the new guidelines before responding to Stefano's concerns. You had a number of options other than losing what you had already written. And this is not intended as criticism. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy an argument as much as anyone, but surely you're not trying to have an argument about this?!!!! I'm not at all, but some people will jump to the conclusion that I am. I can't help that really, can I Edit: and Dave's answered my question without any sign of an argument from either of us so how cool is that!  |
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Post by lambethgull on Oct 30, 2010 11:49:30 GMT
Fair enough. But if a work colleague of mine told me "You had a number of options other than losing what you had already written" after I'd lost something I'd been working on, they'd get short shrift! You have a number of options....now that's different |
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Post by Rags on Oct 30, 2010 11:51:36 GMT
Fair enough. But if a work colleague of mine told me "You had a number of options other than losing what you had already written" after I'd lost something I'd been working on, they'd get short shrift! Then you need to chill out because it could be that they were trying to help prevent that in future without appearing to be condescending. The advice of how not to lose the data again is only really practical once you have lost the data. Yes its too late then, but it will act as advice. I'm not being argumentative here, I'm just pointing out that you have to let people get on with their jobs themselves and only when they exclaim that they have accidentally lost data can you step in and offer some practical solutions to prevent it happening again. If you have lost a load of data and instantly realise why and how it could be prevented again then, presumably, you wouldn't make your loss public knowledge. If I had a pound for every work colleague who had never heard of Auto Save... |
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Post by lambethgull on Oct 30, 2010 11:55:51 GMT
Fair enough. But if a work colleague of mine told me "You had a number of options other than losing what you had already written" after I'd lost something I'd been working on, they'd get short shrift! Then you need to chill out because it could be that they were trying to help prevent that in future without appearing to be condescending. That would depend on their 'form' I guess |
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