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Post by dazgull on Jul 9, 2010 12:18:34 GMT
Apparently Crawley have cleared there £1 million pound debt but now seem intent onstarting another! After selling Ademano to Grimsby they have brought in Tubbs for £70k and now signed Sergio Torres from Posh for £100k. I think most on here regard Torres as a good player and would have been happy if he could have joined us last season but seems a big drop to the conference for a player of that class. Add to that one or two other useful signings it makes you wonder if the old brown envelopes are being handed out again Boston still suffering after Evans time there.......
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Post by Rob on Jul 9, 2010 21:52:20 GMT
The road to ruin, for sure.
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Post by loyalgull on Jul 10, 2010 15:00:48 GMT
and torres reputedly got a huge signing on fee as well,but that alone wont get them promoted,the bsp is very strong now,splashing the cash isnt a guarantee
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Post by chelstongull on Aug 26, 2010 18:42:00 GMT
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Post by chrish on Aug 27, 2010 11:07:20 GMT
I saw him play for Hayes and Yeading during the pre-season. He's a big lad who lumbered around a bit but he did finish the one chance he had rather well.
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Post by dazgull on Sept 1, 2010 12:47:49 GMT
and now he ahas added Richard Brodie from York. Apparently a £275,000 deal
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Post by crispygull on Sept 1, 2010 14:49:50 GMT
and now he ahas added Richard Brodie from York. Apparently a £275,000 deal Yep and as we know he has been a long standing target of ours - but there was no way in the world we could have afforded to pay that sort of money for him. In truth, I think Crawley have paid over the odds for him - as they have for some of their other signings. They really have become the Man City of the BSP and anything less than automatic promotion this season would surely be seen as a failure. I guess Luton Town fans will be feeling decidedly uncomfortable at the moment as they sold their own top scorer from last season to Oxford yesterday for a fee believed to be around £85k - surely the best they can hope for now is the "lottery" of the play offs? Crawley have at least six strikers on their books and they cant play all of them but in Brodie and Tubbs they have the two top scorers in the BSP from last season and in Torres and Neilson they have two quality wide men. Add to that the likes of Pablo Mills - a regular for Rotherham last season and Kuipers their experienced keeper from Brighton - and you have to say that they look to have a squad that should be more than capable of winning the League. The concern would be is that this level of spending is unprecedented at this level of football - transfer fees paid alone are now arround the £600k mark - never mind the wages that these players must be on! It will all end in tears of one kind - joy or despair! On the face of it it seems utter madness to invest millions (as that is effectively what we are talking about) in what is and always has been a non league team that struggles to average gates on much more than 1000. It will be interesting to see whether the town and the surrounding area will really get behind their "project" as Steve Evans likes to refer to it. Given his involvement and of course that of his Assistant Paul Raynor .... part of me can't help hoping it fails! ;D
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Post by NickGull on Sept 1, 2010 17:02:27 GMT
The signing of Brodie has taken Crawley's summer spending to a ridiculous total of £565,000.
That is insane, for the conference.
It is also a huge gamble by their owners, as I can't see it working at all..
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Post by merse on Sept 1, 2010 17:17:09 GMT
The signing of Brodie has taken Crawley's summer spending to a ridiculous total of £565,000. How does that comply with the League rules on wage capping then?
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Post by NickGull on Sept 1, 2010 17:28:53 GMT
I don't know.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Sept 1, 2010 20:04:20 GMT
I remain unconvinced that they can in the medium to long term, Crispygull!
This is just the extreme end of BSP clubs taking-on players that they can no-way naturally afford. It was the same with Cambridge and Wrexham when we were in that league - whilst I would expect that we would have had a hefty wagebill it was not anywhere near some clubs were paying some players.
Maybe they are a "rich man's plaything" but I don't think that even that sort of money could propell and sustain football at a level that the sort of investment that they have made in the last couple of months surely would expect. This surely outspends Max Griggs and his stint at Rushden and Diamonds? You would argue that Rushden have been left at a reasonable level with an excellent little stadium and have had some decent young players come through - is this guy at Crawley building-up the infrastructure there as well?
I don't have anything against Crawley, but I do against Raynor and Evans. They overspent at Boston and the upshot of that was ultimately to lose their league place and are still recovering now from signings like Julian Joachim. If it was my club I would want to see the money up-front in one go (and not in brown envelopes from Evans!) rather than in staged payments...........
I'll be watching their season with interest.
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Post by dazgull on Sept 2, 2010 8:48:18 GMT
Interesting to see how Evans now reacts to comments from others on "we cannot compete with the money they have" . A statement he said a couple of times when we played against him.
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Post by Rob on Sept 2, 2010 12:04:26 GMT
Interesting to see how Evans now reacts to comments from others on "we cannot compete with the money they have" . A statement he said a couple of times when we played against him. I don't think he realises his double standards on everything. The man will bankrupt that place and with a previous conviction for Fraud I sincerely hope the Serious Fraud Office have got one eye on developments there.
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Post by merse on Sept 2, 2010 12:29:48 GMT
No manager can spend if those with their hands on the purse strings refuse to let him, but just who is it in that position at Crawley? There has always been a suspicion with Evans that he has "bought" his managerial appointments with his own (or what he has control over) money. Non league football has been rife with tose sort of set ups for years.................... Jeff King with Canvey Island and when he got more ambitious than that club's very limited potential; Chelmsford City is a good case in point. Isn't the guy managing Buckland Athletic, ( Steve Massey) another of those? Wasn't he trying to get his hands on Torquay United at one time? The bottom line is that long term a club can only progress within the parameters of it's limitations regards, crowd potential and stadium capacity. As Mike Woodward discovered only too painfully at Grays, you can get a club so far but only so far; and then the locals start demanding more than they were originally delighted to even get within smelling distance of and it all ends in tears, abuse and recriminations.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2010 9:44:33 GMT
Isn't the guy managing Buckland Athletic, ( Steve Massey) another of those? I certainly think Steve Massey had "plans" when he was manager/supremo at Falmouth Town. Owner of Devon Valley holiday "village" near Shaldon, I believe.
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