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Post by Dave on Oct 5, 2008 9:19:55 GMT
Well seeing you said you live 20 Min's from Belgium and Germany you will know this place. I have forgotten what It Is called, but as you will know its where the three countries all join.
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Post by rolf on Oct 5, 2008 14:20:14 GMT
It's called the 3 country's point(3 landen punt), where you can do 3 country's in just 2 or 3 seconds , just walk around the big pointy stone in front of Dave and Carol
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Post by Dave on Oct 5, 2008 14:23:06 GMT
Thank you Rolf and the only place I felt at home In Holland, because Its the only place that has got anything that looks like a hill
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Post by ospelgull on Oct 6, 2008 6:40:10 GMT
Rolf is correct, it's the 3 landenpunt and it is situated near the small 'city' of Vaals. I try to visit this area once a month for some cycling (am I Alberto Contador in disguise...). It's also the highest place in Holland, some 322 meters above sealevel.
It's in the south of Limburg where we have some hills. The Ardennes ( just south of the border) in Belgium are even better for some serious cycling, they have hills who are up to 600 meters above sealevel.
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Post by Dave on Oct 6, 2008 16:14:08 GMT
Yes It seems It is the place to cycle race, on the day I was there a big race was on, here Is a picture of some Of the racers
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Post by merse on Oct 6, 2008 17:53:44 GMT
I know that place as "Valkenburg" and cycled around there from the Ardennes for a couple of happy weeks a few (no, a good few!) years ago whilst based at a hillside chalet park near La Roche en Ardenne (Belgium) We managed to get permission to ride around the Spa-Francorchamps GP circuit as well as tackle the infamous cobbled "wall" at Stavelot. Another day we rode all the way through the Bastoigne region to Luxembourg City and back (an epic that!) and on days out of the saddle went canoeing on the river. An area much like the Teign Valley and Haldon Forest, the Ardennes is fantastic. Recently Bijou (my partner) spent a weekend in Leige (Luik) for a family wedding.
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Post by Dave on Oct 6, 2008 17:58:54 GMT
Bloody hell Merse you and your memory, I was there and don't have a clue what It was called, only that It was down the bottom Of Holland ;D
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Post by ospelgull on Oct 7, 2008 9:37:37 GMT
Merse, Valkenburg is some 13 miles north-west of Vaals, but it's in the same area (zuid-Limburg/south-Limburg).
The Ardennes are brilliant, one of my favourite areas to visit nearby.
If you've been to La Roche just might even have visited Houffalize or even better the small village of Achouffe, the home of the famous McChouffe and La Chouffe beers!
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Post by rolf on Oct 7, 2008 11:32:51 GMT
it's a great area , but sadly too close to Germany for me
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Post by merse on Oct 7, 2008 15:41:03 GMT
Merse, Valkenburg is some 13 miles north-west of Vaals, but it's in the same area (zuid-Limburg/south-Limburg). Well despite having been at that very point of Dave and Carol's pic, I wasn't aware of Vaals. Yes I've been to Houfalize, on that ride to Luxembourg and back. The countryside in the North of Luxembourg was quite "Swiss" if I may say so, although the city itself completely bland. All around the Ardennes there are little groups of allied graves, set aside within existing churchyards and lovingly tended by the locals on behalf of British and American families of fallen ones in the Battle of the Bulge during the Second World War. I find that a total contrast and a rather touching juxtaposition to the huge War Cemeteries of Flanders to the North. Another thought provoking spot is the Kemmelburg (between Steenvoorde and Ypres) climb often used in the Tour of Flanders and always in the Ghent - Wevelgem cycle races. Here, at the top of another viciously cobbled hill sits the ossuary where the bodily remains of dismembered soldiers who died in the First World War fighting over that spot are stored in a chapel beflagged in honour of all the countries of BOTH sides who contested that strategic hill at the cost of over thirty thousand lives. There is a sign informing visitors that the pleasantly wooded copse is a replacement for the one totally scorched and destroyed during the conflict. When one recalls that the average age of the deceased was under 25, it is indeed very sad. I used to do a lot of cycling in the areas beyond Calais and Dunkirk around fifteen to twenty years ago and recall such little towns as De Panne, Niewpoort, Looberghe, Mont Casell (another monster cobbled climb), Mont de Cats and Knokke Heist. Weaving in and out of France, Belgium and Holland was just part of the charm and constantly finding new beers to down became an art form for me and my mates!
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Post by Dave on Oct 7, 2008 15:57:23 GMT
There Is a story to the photo, well what I thought I was going to be doing on the day I stood by the flags.The trip was planed some time before we went, Rolf and I talked via video on Msm.
All the days were were sorted out, Thursday In Amsterdam, Friday morning a trip to Ajax's ground and then In the afternoon travel to Rolf's campsite(to play tennis ;D) Rolf will have to tell us where that Is, Saturday down to the south Of Holland and I swear he told me we would be going into Germany and Belgium.
I told Carol what we were going to be doing, in fact I told everyone I knew that While In Holland I was going to two other countries. So sorry Rolf mate, I did not know you meant for me and Carol to walk around a bloody stone, we really believed we would be going to Germany and then to Belgium.
Its a good job you do not run and sell tours Rolf ;D Sunday we went to a place that was very fortified, Rolf will have to tell us the name again and Tuesday to see the dolphins. The last day we went north Of Amsterdam, to a place that Is the Cockinton Of Holland, a place full Of windmills and old Dutch houses.
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Post by ospelgull on Oct 9, 2008 6:30:55 GMT
I haven't done any cycling in the west of Belgium nor visited any cemeteries. The cemeteries over there are mostly WW1 cemeteries? In Holland I've been to Margraten, there's an American cemetery. And there's an English cemetery in the place where I live nowadays (Nederweert). Very impressive, especially if you see how young they were. They fought for our freedom, therefore respect! Now Merse, you must tell me which Belgium beers you find the best. Maybe I can bring a bottle with me next time I come over for an away game around London
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Post by merse on Oct 9, 2008 16:56:56 GMT
I haven't done any cycling in the west of Belgium Now Merse, you must tell me which Belgium beers you find the best. Maybe I can bring a bottle with me next time I come over for an away game around London For several years my friends and I made a point of going over for the midweek Ghent - Wevelgum race and we would pile off the ferry at Calais and follow the canal and back roads to Cassel and then cross into Belgium just after Steenvorde at a place called Rodemont in Flemish, Montrouge in French and Red Mountain in English! From there we could catch half a dozen different sightings by tearing from point to point as the race wound it's way through the area, then as old age began to catch up with me it became four and when it became just a couple I called it a day. There's only so much fun in just catching the Lantern Rouge and the team cars time after time! My missus so liked Stella when she was expecting Olivia we should really have named our daughter after the ruddy stuff instead of the cooking oil! I'd say my favourite is Leffe Brun and my least favourite Morte Subite (translates as Instant Death) which is a "krieke" (Cherry) beer. But there are so many "village"and "Abbaiye" beers over there I'll try the lot of 'em!
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Post by ospelgull on Oct 10, 2008 6:22:42 GMT
Stella is a very normal name for a girl, well at least here in Holland. Ahh Leffe. Brilliant beer, both the blonde and the brune! You can always wake me up for a Leffe or a Chouffe!
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