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Post by Dave on Sept 14, 2009 15:07:57 GMT
I did not expect to start a matchday thread for a home game, wishing we get a draw, yes I would really love a win and to see us getting back to winning ways, but first I want to see us stop the losing run.
How things quickly change after a few poor results, while the season was very new and not to much can be read into a teams position in the table, we were in a play-off spot and each game since then has seen us drop down the table after every game.
Now only two points from the drop zone and we really don't want to find ourselves in there and then trying to get out of it, so often when you are in there everything seems to go against you and even any luck never seems to come your way.
When Mansell started at our club, he was soon a popular player who's box to box runs gave us so much energy in the midfield, while I was never too happy he went to right back, I would give anything to see him take is place there for the start of this game.
It is time for the players to start having a better fighting spirit out on the pitch, its times like these I wish we had Ellis here, while his distribution may not always be the best, you know he will die for us when he gets his chance to play.
Well he won't be playing in this game for sure and with no new faces coming in, Bucks needs to do what he can to get the players we have defend so much better, not only winning the balls they should, but making sure they are where they should be when we are under attack.
I would expect Hargreaves will be a sure starter and lets hope Wroe can get his game back to where it should be, as his passing can make all the difference to our forwards getting attempts on goal at least.
I would not be surprised to see Bucks play Hargreaves, Wroe and Thompson, with Carayol and Williams out wide and Tim Sills up front on his own. It maybe a good game to make a few changes and also the way we line up, as we really do not want to see us make it five defeats on the trot.
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Post by rjdgull on Sept 16, 2009 20:31:08 GMT
I would agree that if we lose to Grimsby then it is going to be a long hard season and anyone can lose a one off match.
However, with rose tinted spectacles on, if those two chances that hit the woodwork had gone in against high flying Barnet and Bournemouth respectively then four points could have been gained, seven point achieved from three matches at home and that would have had us two points from a play off place!!!
With injuries, this proves that we are not that far off the mark but we need to stop this downward spiral before confidence starts to be affected so this is an important match!
Talking of confidence, I see that after scoring against Histon last year, Sill didn’t score again until the eighth game of the season and also had a barren goal scoring spell just before the play offs but came good on both occasions so maybe a little early to write him off just yet.
In respect of formation, I can’t see Grimsby pushing too many men forward so would be inclined to stick to the 4-4-2 formation for a home game against one of the less fancied teams.
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Post by Rob on Sept 16, 2009 20:46:41 GMT
I would not be surprised to see Bucks play Hargreaves, Wroe and Thompson, with Carayol and Williams out wide and Tim Sills up front on his own. I do think we'll see this line up away from home fairly soon, Dave, but would agree with rjd that we'll likely stick with 4-4-2 at home. My guess for Saturday is :- Poke, Mansell, Todd, Robertson, Nicholson, Carlisle, Wroe, Hargreaves, Williams, Sills, Benyon I think our poor run and Grimsby's poor start to the season will lead to a cagey affair but will go for 1-0. Sills header from a Carlisle cross. |
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Post by Dave on Sept 16, 2009 21:23:49 GMT
I would expect that you will be correct Rob and Bucks will stick with 4-4-2 at home, only he will not want to lose five games on the trot and when he switched to playing with Sills up on his own last season( yes I know it was an away game) we ended a losing run then and went on to win games after that.
Bucks may just have that in his mind and just might feel it might be worth a try early on in the match, it can always be changed back if it has not worked.
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Post by ospelgull on Sept 17, 2009 6:46:09 GMT
I think we'll need some of this:
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender
Get those 3 points that's all that matters at the moment.
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Post by Swanny on Sept 17, 2009 18:00:43 GMT
With the arrival of the new loanees it's anyone's guess what the starting line-up will be ! I will reserve judgement on our latest signings after I have seen for myself what happens on Saturday. It seems to be a gamble to bring in 2 players with no league experience and expect them to turn around a struggling side. It all makes me feel a little nervous. I will miss Carayol, there's times when he makes a great impact player and has a great bag of tricks and pace to burn. It's just his final ball that is often lacking. Here's hoping for a turnaround in our fortunes.
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Post by Dave on Sept 17, 2009 21:45:13 GMT
With the arrival of the new loanees it's anyone's guess what the starting line-up will be ! A lot will depend on who has fully recovered from injury, but I would have thought mansell should be one who will return and if the others don't, then Robertson will line up next to Todd. Hargreaves I'm sure will start the game, only will Bucks drop Wroe and go with Thompson? Carlisle and Williams out wide and I really would not be surprised to see Bucks play Mills and Benyon up front together. |
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Post by Dave on Sept 17, 2009 21:52:03 GMT
After reading the post by Rob about Carlisle playing at rightback, I will add Danny on the wing  |
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Post by stuartB on Sept 17, 2009 21:53:59 GMT
Poke
Carlisle Todd Robertson Nicholson
Williams Wroe Hargeaves Stevens
Sills Rendell
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Benyon
Ellis
Mills
Brough
Bevan
Mansell
Thompson
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Post by stuartB on Sept 17, 2009 21:55:36 GMT
After reading the post by Rob about Carlisle playing at rightback, I will add Danny on the wing don't upset Fonda as your last sentence is very close to his mate Danny Wring ;D |
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Post by stewart on Sept 17, 2009 22:05:34 GMT
I pass no judgement on Mr Buckle's ability as a manager, but the quotes from him reported on the official site and in the HE are the biggest load of waffling bullshit I have heard.
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Post by Dave on Sept 17, 2009 22:26:19 GMT
I pass no judgement on Mr Buckle's ability as a manager, but the quotes from him reported on the official site and in the HE are the biggest load of waffling bullshit I have heard. I have just read the bit on .com, what part do you think is bullshit Stewart? I do think he has got it wrong about how we have been in the games up until the final whistle, but the rest made sense to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 22:34:39 GMT
stewart
I thnk you've missed the print deadline for this Saturday's programme Stewart. Budleighgull might have to hold your comment over until the next one ;D
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Post by Dave on Sept 17, 2009 22:41:43 GMT
stewart I thnk you've missed the print deadline for this Saturday's programme Stewart. Budleighgull might have to hold your comment over until the next one ;D I'm just glad I don't have to pick them  |
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Post by stewart on Sept 17, 2009 23:16:09 GMT
I pass no judgement on Mr Buckle's ability as a manager, but the quotes from him reported on the official site and in the HE are the biggest load of waffling bullshit I have heard. I have just read the bit on .com, what part do you think is bullshit Stewart? I do think he has got it wrong about how we have been in the games up until the final whistle, but the rest made sense to me. Apart from the reference to players' injuries, all of it. There is never any tactical detail about what is going well and what is not, just a string of vague cliches and pleasanteries. We have no divine right to know how he really feels about the performances of individuals, for instance defensive blunders or poor forward play, but a bit more substance and body to his comments at least would help the supporters to understand what the team is trying to do out on the pitch. |
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