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Post by merse on Apr 5, 2010 17:33:43 GMT
The away fans were brilliant. Out sung the home fans all the way through. Well done to you all, except the guy behind me who continually moaned all the way through and then at the end shouted Buckle out. What an idiot, I'm sorry but I couldn't be there today to give TB1 his medication!
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Post by merse on Apr 5, 2010 17:43:54 GMT
I listened to Radio Northampton on the journey home and twice we were described as cynical by home fans!!--I really dont know what game they were watching. Probably their way of moaning that we didn't roll over and die. Remember how some on here used to moan last season about teams coming to Plainmoor and "Parking The Bus"?
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Post by frankfurt gull on Apr 5, 2010 18:21:57 GMT
and now lincoln will be looking over there shoulder,you want to look at their remaining fixtures,they are not safe at all,very interesting now funny you should say loyal that because I´ve got a feeling that Lincoln are going down with Darlo - you read it here first!!
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Post by loyalgull on Apr 5, 2010 18:27:00 GMT
we know as a club how wicked this game can be,51 points saw us relegated very unluckily from league one,i just got a feeling a club that isnt hyperventilating yet will get sucked in,maybe lincoln,who knows but it makes it interesting and as long as we survive it can be anyone else
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Post by Enzo on Apr 5, 2010 19:33:16 GMT
How frustrating football can be? Two decent performances and a four point haul over Easter and I still drove home feeling as if we had just lost. The other results really took the shine of an excellent Easter period.
I thought we started exactly where we left on Saturday. For the first half hour we were excellent - crisp passes going forward and very well organised at the back. Several half chances were created - Carayol again looked dangerous, but one sensed that our opportunity rested on us taking one of them. Once Bayo went off Northampton came into the game and to be honest, we were hanging on a little for the last 10 minutes of the first half. In the end it was a relief to get in at 0-0.
The second half was poor. Northampton made more of the elements than we did and we lost our shape and composure. Muzzy lost his touch and we struggled to hold the ball up. Benners once again ran his socks off, but got little in the way of service.......or from the ref. Come the end he was a walking free kick concession. Benners was not alone in this as we gave away many needless free kicks and corners and throw ins through sliced clearances. For all their possession Northampton did not test Bevs too much and in general the defence held firm - as an attacking force we offered little as the game went on which was frustrating as news of our rivals fortunes was filtering through.
Zebs was again disapionting. The lack of activity from the bench just highlights how little faith PB has in our subs.....and how threadbare our squad is. Two games in three days was too much for quite a few players - particularly with Northampton having the extra day to recover, but Bucks obviously couldnt chance any of the subs for our wilting players. If we are going to survive, the starting 11 with maybe Charnock and Poke are going to have to put some shitfs in. The failure to adequately replace players released over the season may yet come back to haunt us.
7 points clear now with 6 to play - are Rochdale just starting to freeze??. Speaking to a few fans before and during the game, I was suprised how confident they were. Prior to today, I don't think many thought Grimsby really had it in them. I really think they have - to come back the way thye did could have a real galvanising effect. THat said, if we play the way we did o Saturday and during the first half today I think we can pick up enough points - assuming injuries and suspensions don't kick in.
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Post by teddgull on Apr 5, 2010 19:35:10 GMT
..interesting point about Lincoln getting sucked back in and their remaining Fixtures, LoyalGull.....
The oponents are the same in four of the final five fixtures for both Torquay and Lincoln.
the odd ones out in the five? We have Grimsby, they have Shrewsbury...
Good battling display today - thought we defended well second half, great Yellow Army Support, and although Longeaton Gull had been up and headed the ball into the net from a great left wing cross second half, Elliot just couldn't reach it.... If only. Think I heard that Car Park 'coming together' too... ;D
One point gained in my book...keep the faith and support the boys next Saturday......
teddgull
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Apr 5, 2010 19:43:33 GMT
Thanks to those that attended and have added their comments - as always it is much appreciated.
It wasn't a big surprise to me that we got a point today - and it won't be if we get something against Rochdale on Saturday. I was hacked-off by the results at Accrington and Crewe but again that wasn't a surprise - there is nothing special in this division and most teams are capable of getting results against anyone else on their day.
It sounded like a workmanlike effort in a game in fairly difficult conditions and I'm happy with our result. We've been reminded that Grimsby are capable of overtaking us, but I'd rather have a lead of 7 points plus a decent goaldifference with 6 games to go than to be in another struggling club's position. It's still too tight to call though - if only we had got a point against Lincoln! I've given-up working-out the permutations of all the results and the possible "safety target" of points, but as long as we avoid defeat at Blundell Park and get another couple of wins then we will OK.
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Post by scottbrehaut1 on Apr 5, 2010 19:53:18 GMT
I am not worried - stats do not lie!
We have got a very important, welcome and unexpected point today. If anybody had offered any of you 4 points at the start of this easter weekend you would have ripped their arm off (or, more likely, popped a few ribs from laughing so much.)
The fact of the matter is that, stats wise, we are the team that has picked up the most points from those around us in the last eight games.
We have 12 points from our last eight (W3,D3,L3), with Lincoln (W2,D4,L2), Cheltenham (W3,D1,L4) and Grimsby (W3,D1,L4) all picking up 10. Chelts have the advantage with their game in hand, but points on the board are what matter. To put the above another way, if we were starting off the season now with the above form we would be 10th. We just need to continue with our current form and we will be fine - we need to continue the momentum from picking up a morale boosting draw against a team who have picked up 20 points in the last eight games. This in itself is a far more impressive achievement that Grimsby, who picked up a win against a side that had only picked up 7 points in their last eight games.
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Post by stefano on Apr 5, 2010 19:56:30 GMT
and now lincoln will be looking over there shoulder,you want to look at their remaining fixtures,they are not safe at all,very interesting now funny you should say loyal that because I´ve got a feeling that Lincoln are going down with Darlo - you read it here first!! Yes very likely and echoes of 1987 when they were in the promotion play off places at the start then just slipped and slipped and only ended bottom on the very last day, when Crewe 'contrived' to give us the ball in their own penalty area in the last minute. I have never heard much mentioned about what actually happened there but I have always been convinced it was deliberate. Still ... did it matter? No
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Post by loyalgull on Apr 5, 2010 20:35:07 GMT
somebody always hits a bad patch at the wrong time,grimsby have a massive task if not heres looking at lincoln there bitter rivals who hate each other with a vengeance,the irony of it all,as stated before long as it isnt us
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Post by teddgull on Apr 5, 2010 20:56:26 GMT
LoyalGull, I'll settle for us being a point ahead of both Lincoln and Macclesfield going into our last game.... They play each other on May 8th, so as long as we've got a better goal difference than one of them and we don't lose badly on that last day to change it significantly, we'd be ok...
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Post by petef on Apr 5, 2010 21:13:11 GMT
Great battling weekend and how we needed those two results. Reamaining fixtures look daunting particularly the next three, Rochdale, the team of the season Aldershot on a great run of form followed by "D" day at Grimsby. Not looking forward to next week - or am I ?
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Post by chrish on Apr 5, 2010 21:15:53 GMT
It was my first visit to the Sixfields since that ridiculously hot day a few years back when we had David Woozely upfront and Jason Fowler running the game from the left wing.
It's a crying shame that Grimsby won. A good point today, a decent performance against a decent side in windswept conditions so bad that a first half corner almost needed someone to hold the ball in piece in 1980s rugby union style rather than the modern day equivalent of the blue discs nicked from Seve Ballesteros's Garden Golf set or a bucket of sand.
Poor old Akinfenwa. Even the St John's Ambulance bloke gave us the fingers crossed sign as he was told "I bet you're happy you don't have to carry him off" after Adebayo got outmuscled by Guy Branston and went over on his ankle. Bless Guy. He even went over to see if he was ok and then joked around with their other forward as he hobbled off.
Muzzy had another impressive spell on the left and after intercepting a misplaced Northampton pass went flying down the wing looking like Martin Offiah at Wembley. That boy has pace and skill to burn. Nicky Wroe had a better game today but still far from this best. Benyon and Rendell also had good games. Benyon has to start being a bit less obvious with his hands when trying to get goalside of an opponent. The ref had his card marked in the first half and he wasn't given anything in the second half apart from get the really obvious decisions. But he's really giving it a go.
I'm concerned about Zebs though. I know his extra quality will get us something out of nothing but if he goes too many games without scoring the head will start to drop a little.
Finally. A small mention goes to their keeper Jason Steele (on loan from Middlesbrough) who's kicking off the deck has to be seen to be believed. When the final whistle blew he turned around and clapped the Torquay fans behind his goal. Quite a nice touch.
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Post by milber on Apr 5, 2010 21:17:23 GMT
We pulled out of town to the sight of 2 magpies playing on a grass verge. The omens were good.
2 hrs later and deap in coversation we flew past the turnoff only to stumble on a sign for sixfields. Never been before so didn`t know what to expect. Came away thinking if ever there was an advert for how to build an all seater industrial unit and kill the chance of the home fans generating any atmosphere that was it.
Paid £3 in the car park and saw 2 chaps get out of cars in front of us decked in blue tracksuit tops. One looking a little like Branston. surely it couldn`t have been.
got out and found we had parked next to a Gull from Harpenden, so we were not to be alone.
as we walked to the ground i was thinking maybe 100 fans. by k.O. we had about 400-500 a fantastic turnout. But most impressive was the non stop singing and clapping from the first to the last whistle. As was to be expected Bayo came in for quite a bit of stick. Perhaps a little too much when he was injured.
Id heard it was kid for a quid & £10 for the accompanying adult so we went to the box office. only to be told you had to fill a form in beforehand and it was for home fans only. So back to the kiosk to buy our tickets and then hand them to the turnstile operator. odd bit of double handling. i don`t think I`ve ever got in a ground so early. Saul halpin later emerged and meticulously laid out some white discs on the pitch. Scott Bevan later appeared followed a few minutes later by the rest. I was slightly concerned by Zebs constant Hamstring walks between sets. I did wonder if he was carrying an injury or has a tight hamstring. He`s a player whose body language suggests he`s coasting through a game rather than busting a gut. not sure if thats deceptive or whether he is holding himself back.
So to the game; We were given acres of space in the first half but never really took advantage. With the wind at our backs we should have been looking to shoot at every half chance but for some reason didn`t. I could only recall one effort and Nicho slipped over as he let fly and the ball bobbled to the keeper. A word hear for their GK high vis kit. Sadly we did little to dull his image. His lime green gear could have been packed away without the need for a wash.
That said I do not want to be critical. The wind and pitch made play very tricky. We battled and fully deserved the point. 4 pts and gaining one on Grimsby over easter is an excellent return.
I was though puzzled by our lack of substitutions. Carayol had a good first half but offered nothing as an outlet or defensively in the second. He appeared to lack determination, control and belief. We felt fresh legs in the form of Stevens may have given the RB something different to think about for the last 30 mins. That said its easy from the terraces, Its a whole different ball game when you have to weigh up being positive and risking upsetting the balance and throwing away a precious point.
We struggled in the second and perhaps due to the conditions couldn`t hang on to the ball. Too often we gave away possession cheaply. Nicho for instance in a great position with a free kick which begged to be whipped in. Chose to play it down the line to Carayol who wasn`t looking and the ball rolled into touch by the corner flag.
to sum up Bevan & the back 4 looked solid. Branston was a rock.
I could see why we have struggled to win many games. We lacked the necesary belief and determination in midfield to get the ball in the box or to shoot.
Strikers worked hard and Benyon especially chased everything. I notice though all his running is to chase a lost cause. Not to create space with movement ahead of the ball. Rendell often dropped or the midfield had it but their was no running to the corners for an angled through ball. He also has a tendancy to half turn when the ball comes to him with his back to goal. If he stayed square on I`m sure he`d force more free kicks with challenges from the back.
All in all though a great day out, really enjoyed it. Fans and Utd played their part in getting a valuable point from a tricky game.
Milber
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Post by joebarlow on Apr 5, 2010 21:26:54 GMT
I got back home about half an hour ago and the amtch was pretty good. Guy Branston was my man of the match. Guy was tackling without holding back and kept Bayo at ease. Bayo got a lot of banter thrown at him from the Torquay fans and I thought that Torquay fans were really loud and consistent throught the match. We really kept the home fans quiet.
Carayol had a good game and Zebs had his best game for a couple of weeks, He got past thier full-back quite a few times. I think we should have played the ball on the ground second half a bit more. We tried playing it in the air when the wind was against the players. I think maybe Nicho should have had the ball played out to him on the edge of the box in the first half, he has a wicked shot and with the win behind him he would have scored. Our chances were good, Benyon had a couple of decent chances and Northampton didnt really threaten us too much.
Bring on Saturday I say.
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